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    Caleb Williams

    Why is he not putting himself in the NFL draft? Is he somehow ineligible. He's easily the best QB in CFB. This guy is a generational talent. Tank-a-thon for him will be full on next season. I'm calling him the best QB in the NFL within 4 years. Looks like pretty much a Mahomes clone to me.

    Young and Stroud are not even close to him.


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    I think he has more issues than what people think. He's not THAT professional. Reminds me of a guy with so much talent... but straight up GHETTO. He'll lose his sh## like Terrell Owens.
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    He lost it is what he does best
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    not eligible until next year's draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He lost it is what he does best


    How the eff was it his fault? He's the only reason that offense does anything. If he didn't play, they'd have lost by 21. This guy is a generational talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    not eligible until next year's draft
    Why is that? I guess I don't know the eligibility rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I think he has more issues than what people think. He's not THAT professional. Reminds me of a guy with so much talent... but straight up GHETTO. He'll lose his sh## like Terrell Owens.
    I think you're way off base. People probably said that about Mahomes coming out too. Next season will be absolute tankathon to draft this guy.

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    GHETTO all the way.

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    it's about time for a #1 qb flop, they can't all be burrow/lawrence

    if we're talking "generational talent" the best 2 qbs in the nfl over the past 20 years are probably brady and rodgers... neither one was thought of as "generational talent"... and yes i hate that expression, it assumes there are only a few super-talented guys in the world every 20 years

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    Lincoln Riley produces great QB stats.

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    One more year of Tua for my fins then we can dump his azz and get Williams

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    it's about time for a #1 qb flop, they can't all be burrow/lawrence

    if we're talking "generational talent" the best 2 qbs in the nfl over the past 20 years are probably brady and rodgers... neither one was thought of as "generational talent"... and yes i hate that expression, it assumes there are only a few super-talented guys in the world every 20 years
    Young and Stroud may very well flop.

    Caleb Williams will not.

    "About time" means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Young and Stroud may very well flop.

    Caleb Williams will not.

    "About time" means nothing.
    you can suck his schlong all you want, doesn't mean he's going to be in the hall of fame or even successful

    jamarcus russell, ryan leaf, jeff george, rick mirer... lots of qb's never live up to their expectations in the nfl, and as i said, guys like rodgers and brady end up being the best... nobody said tom brady was worth tanking for

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    i will say at least it seems like caleb cares, when he's crying after losses

    cam rising (utah) gets injured in another rose bowl, and they're gonna lose another one, and yet he's laughing his ass off and having a good time on the sidelines... pretty awful behavior

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I think he has more issues than what people think. He's not THAT professional. Reminds me of a guy with so much talent... but straight up GHETTO. He'll lose his sh## like Terrell Owens.
    I can tell with 100% certainty he is not ghetto at all. All class. Treats people the right way. Dedicates a ton of his time to anti-bullying and his foundation.

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    He is not ghetto

    I just don’t know if he can win big games enough even in the pros

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I think he has more issues than what people think. He's not THAT professional. Reminds me of a guy with so much talent... but straight up GHETTO. He'll lose his sh## like Terrell Owens.
    x1,000,000. will be the next Nfl bust

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    I can tell with 100% certainty he is not ghetto at all. All class. Treats people the right way. Dedicates a ton of his time to anti-bullying and his foundation.
    So somebody else wrote Fuk Notre Dame on his knuckles before ND game ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He lost it is what he does best
    that running back? could not win shit in the "little12"

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I think you're way off base. People probably said that about Mahomes coming out too. Next season will be absolute tankathon to draft this guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Young and Stroud may very well flop.

    Caleb Williams will not.

    "About time" means nothing.
    I'm pretty sure you were the one that said Fields in Chicago was "THE BEST" ever. Did you jump ship already? I told you Fields wasn't worth a sh##. I will say Williams is better than Fields... but Williams still will have "issues" with an NFL team. Just watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I'm pretty sure you were the one that said Fields in Chicago was "THE BEST" ever. Did you jump ship already? I told you Fields wasn't worth a sh##. I will say Williams is better than Fields... but Williams still will have "issues" with an NFL team. Just watch.
    I still believe Fields will be special when Chicago rights the ship. Fields will be a top 5 QB. That said, I'd go with Caleb Williams over him. Yes, he's the next Patrick Mahomes.

    And I have no dog in the hunt. Don't care about USC or whatever. I know talent when I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post

    I can tell with 100% certainty he is not ghetto at all. All class. Treats people the right way. Dedicates a ton of his time to anti-bullying and his foundation.
    Quote Originally Posted by TiredPro View Post

    So somebody else wrote Fuk Notre Dame on his knuckles before ND game ?
    Exactly. Gaucho would swallow Caleb's load if he could. "all class"

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    You were enamoured with Malik Willis after he completed 4 passes in a game. This was after calling Bailey Zappe the future after he played well for 1 quarter

    You're hardly reliable on anything QB related
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    The bottom line he did not close the game another bad loss USC

    They will really struggle Big 10 too physical for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    I can tell with 100% certainty he is not ghetto at all. All class. Treats people the right way. Dedicates a ton of his time to anti-bullying and his foundation.
    Unless it was edited or photo shopped... in the PAC12 Championship Game... he had "FU## UTAH" printed on his fingernails. If that isn't classless... I don't know what is? Do your business out on the field... talk with your game... no need for vulgarity written on your hands. Surprised the PAC12 didn't do anything or fine USC for such nonsense.

    He has better potential than Fields. That's all I know. We'll see where he ends up later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I still believe Fields will be special when Chicago rights the ship. Fields will be a top 5 QB. That said, I'd go with Caleb Williams over him. Yes, he's the next Patrick Mahomes.

    And I have no dog in the hunt. Don't care about USC or whatever. I know talent when I see it.
    I question your talent skills. Fields is a Bust so far. It all started when Fields started putting the blame on everyone else but himself. Get off your ass and lead your team. This isn't Ohio State anymore VS Hawaii. Mentally he may never get where he needs to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I question your talent skills. Fields is a Bust so far. It all started when Fields started putting the blame on everyone else but himself. Get off your ass and lead your team. This isn't Ohio State anymore VS Hawaii. Mentally he may never get where he needs to be.
    it's the chicago mindset

    rex grossman is gonna be great! now it's cutler! now trubisky! now fields!

    how many special qb's start off their careers 5-20
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    it's the chicago mindset

    rex grossman is gonna be great! now it's cutler! now trubisky! now fields!

    how many special qb's start off their careers 5-20
    You forgot that Kris Bryant was supposed to be the next Ted Williams!

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    it's the chicago mindset

    rex grossman is gonna be great! now it's cutler! now trubisky! now fields!

    how many special qb's start off their careers 5-20
    What does Caleb Williams have to do with Chicago?

    And I was never big on Grossman or Mitch. I did think Cutler was pretty good, but Fields is better. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    You forgot that Kris Bryant was supposed to be the next Ted Williams!
    Derrick Rose. Mark Prior. There's a list for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    What does Caleb Williams have to do with Chicago?

    And I was never big on Grossman or Mitch. I did think Cutler was pretty good, but Fields is better. Time will tell.
    nothing, i was talking about fields

    maybe caleb williams will be coming to the bears, if they keep losing?

    derrick rose was such an unforgivable wimp for sitting out those playoff games, while doing circus dunks in warmups

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    nothing, i was talking about fields

    maybe caleb williams will be coming to the bears, if they keep losing?

    derrick rose was such an unforgivable wimp for sitting out those playoff games, while doing circus dunks in warmups
    Tough to call him a wimp now though. It's incredible that's he's still playing with what his knees went through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Tough to call him a wimp now though. It's incredible that's he's still playing with what his knees went through.
    yeah i get that

    but his dumbass comments never did him any favors either, he was sitting out so he could walk in to board meetings later in life lololol

    the guy cheated his way through SAT tests and college, and now someone is gonna want his low iq ass being on a board of directors?

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    D2 sticking up for his Chicago natives... lol you're too soft on your homer team D2. I call all the Lions c-suckers every time they play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Derrick Rose. Mark Prior. There's a list for sure.
    I forgot about Prior and he is a local kid.

    Man was he lights out for a short time and that was it.

    It's a shame he could not stay healthy.

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