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    If I can get TAMPA BAY BUCS +3.5 .........

    I think it is an autobet. I would really have no choice IMO

    - KC left tackle out
    - TB playing on home field.
    - TB at QB for TB, and on home field
    - TB from what I can see has the more physical D, and I typically take the more physical D in the SB and it was worked out way more than not.


    However, we have 13 full days until SB Sunday so let's where this line goes.


    Who is on KC minus the points and why ???

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    No defense can shut down KC

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    I think it is an autobet. I would really have no choice IMO

    - KC left tackle out
    - TB playing on home field.
    - TB at QB for TB, and on home field
    - TB from what I can see has the more physical D, and I typically take the more physical D in the SB and it was worked out way more than not.


    However, we have 13 full days until SB Sunday so let's where this line goes.


    Who is on KC minus the points and why ???
    You do realize with the advent of buying points you could pretty much get any number you want, don't you?

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    Fisher out is big

    i also want to see what happens with Bucs Safeties who are hurt right now

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    I don’t understand how people can bet money against Mahomes and that offense. They have won 25 out of the last 26 games Mahomes played in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by champlain View Post
    I don’t understand how people can bet money against Mahomes and that offense. They have won 25 out of the last 26 games Mahomes played in.
    If you bet against them (spread bets), you did very well this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    If you bet against them (spread bets), you did very well this year.
    7-9 ATS this year, 8-10 counting playoffs

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    Will be a Super blowout

    27-6 for KC at half

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    Will be a Super blowout

    27-6 for KC at half

    Never stop being you, Seadweeb. Please

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    Guys that lost everything telling us about auto bets

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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    No defense can shut down KC
    Last week I heard no defense could shut down GB. In ‘99, I heard no defense could shut down StL. In ‘02, it was no defense could shut down Oak.

    What do they all have in common? The Bucs pass rush. When you can get to the passer and rattle them, you can shut anyone down, and some of those offenses above were hailed as better than KC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    Will be a Super blowout

    27-6 for KC at half
    Dude put down the crack pipe. They struggled to beat TB in Nov and I think TB is a lot better now than they were then. And they have Vea back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug tushyterror View Post
    You do realize with the advent of buying points you could pretty much get any number you want, don't you?
    too much juice buying off of 3 in the Niffel, it's something like -20 give or take, just to buy that half point.

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    It should be close. Flip a coin.

    Comparing positions:


    QB = KC
    TE = KC
    WR = TIE
    RB = TIE
    D LINE = TIE
    O LINE = TB
    CB/SAFETY/DB = KC
    LB = TIE
    K = TIE
    SPECIAL TEAMS = KC


    All are very close. Everything says KC wins a close game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    It should be close. Flip a coin.

    Comparing positions:


    QB = KC
    TE = KC
    WR = TIE
    RB = TIE
    D LINE = TIE
    O LINE = TB
    CB/SAFETY/DB = KC
    LB = TIE
    K = TIE
    SPECIAL TEAMS = KC


    All are very close. Everything says KC wins a close game.
    there are some ties there that could go to the Bucs honestly (WR, D Line imo). it is a really good matchup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    It should be close. Flip a coin.

    Comparing positions:


    QB = KC
    TE = KC
    WR = TIE
    RB = TIE
    D LINE = TIE
    O LINE = TB
    CB/SAFETY/DB = KC
    LB = TIE
    K = TIE
    SPECIAL TEAMS = KC


    All are very close. Everything says KC wins a close game.
    I’d give DL to TB. They gave Rodgers hell yesterday and have Vea back. That’s huge. Vea is one of best lineman in NFL. Also would give
    LB edge to TB...Barrett, David and White is one of best units in league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    It should be close. Flip a coin.

    Comparing positions:


    QB = KC
    TE = KC
    WR = TIE
    RB = TIE
    D LINE = TIE
    O LINE = TB
    CB/SAFETY/DB = KC
    LB = TIE
    K = TIE
    SPECIAL TEAMS = KC


    All are very close. Everything says KC wins a close game.
    Let’s see how the kid handles the moment of back to back and beating the goat he could be built for this moment he could fukin crumble hard to say really

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    You guys all make great points for sure.

    If TB gets Antonio Brown back in time that could flip to TB but its close at every position really. And the LB's for TB have been playing amazing lately. I should have given the edge to TB there. Not enough coffee yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    You guys all make great points for sure.

    If TB gets Antonio Brown back in time that could flip to TB but its close at every position really. And the LB's for TB have been playing amazing lately. I should have given the edge to TB there. Not enough coffee yet
    it is all very close

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    If I’m Tampa, I’m worried about Hill and that fast pace offense. They torched the Bucs with Hill earlier this season. He’s just hard to contain. If Whitehead is out, that’s a major blow to the Bucs secondary. Winfield should be back. His injury wasn’t too serious. Still, I just don’t know if they can stop Hill.

    If I’m KC, I’m worried about the pass rush of Tampa, especially with their LT out. The Bucs played the Chiefs close in Nov because they got to Mahomes in the second half and that was with a healthy OL and a Bucs DL without Vea. If Brady doesn’t throw that INT in the third, the Bucs prolly win that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    It should be close. Flip a coin.

    Comparing positions:


    QB = KC
    TE = KC
    WR = TIE
    RB = TIE
    D LINE = TIE
    O LINE = TB
    CB/SAFETY/DB = KC
    LB = TIE
    K = TIE
    SPECIAL TEAMS = KC


    All are very close. Everything says KC wins a close game.
    sometimes the Sum of the Parts are greater than the indiv matchups.

    TB DEFENSE playing very opportunistic ball under TODD BOWLES

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    too much juice buying off of 3 in the Niffel, it's something like -20 give or take, just to buy that half point.
    If you really like them +3.5 you're not gonna get a better price than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyblue81 View Post
    If I’m Tampa, I’m worried about Hill and that fast pace offense. They torched the Bucs with Hill earlier this season. He’s just hard to contain. If Whitehead is out, that’s a major blow to the Bucs secondary. Winfield should be back. His injury wasn’t too serious. Still, I just don’t know if they can stop Hill.

    If I’m KC, I’m worried about the pass rush of Tampa, especially with their LT out. The Bucs played the Chiefs close in Nov because they got to Mahomes in the second half and that was with a healthy OL and a Bucs DL without Vea. If Brady doesn’t throw that INT in the third, the Bucs prolly win that game.
    Still got a legendary defensive tackle in suh. They will have to limit mahomes from running the football tho as well. Idk will be a great game to watch I hope curly hair gets a taste of reality

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    good catch, DOUGer

    I am also looking to see who here in SBR wants KC -3.5 and I will consider wagering Bet Points as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    good catch, DOUGer

    I am also looking to see who here in SBR wants KC -3.5 and I will consider wagering Bet Points as well.
    Thanks homie, also seeing +4.5 -138 if you're willing to lay a little extra. 28-24 type final seems highly possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyblue81 View Post
    Last week I heard no defense could shut down GB. In ‘99, I heard no defense could shut down StL. In ‘02, it was no defense could shut down Oak.

    What do they all have in common? The Bucs pass rush. When you can get to the passer and rattle them, you can shut anyone down, and some of those offenses above were hailed as better than KC.
    What do they have in common? All pocket passers

    Also, Rodgers threw for 348 yards and 3 TD’s. KC has even more weapons.
    Last edited by big joe 1212; 01-25-21 at 10:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    Still got a legendary defensive tackle in suh. They will have to limit mahomes from running the football tho as well. Idk will be a great game to watch I hope curly hair gets a taste of reality
    Yup. I prolly won’t bet thee line bc Im a Bucs fan and never bet on or against my team. I look at props instead. But if I was an outsider, I’d lean Tampa. I also said, though, I’d lean NO vs Tampa and thought GB ML was the play yesterday. Didn’t think Bucs would win. I did bet Scotty Miller over 25.5 yards receiving and 1H over and won it all on one play haha.

    I do think it’s a good matchup for Tampa. Not saying they’re gonna win, but the teams they struggled Against this year were teams like the Rams and Saints, teams that bring DL pressure. The KC D isn’t the kind of D that will shut down the Bucs. Brady and the offense should be able to score some points and I think the Bucs DL can get to #15.

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    K.C. all the way. Don't overthink this.

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    multiple books hanging 3.5s out there

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    The line is going to go to 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyblue81 View Post
    Last week I heard no defense could shut down GB. In ‘99, I heard no defense could shut down StL. In ‘02, it was no defense could shut down Oak.

    What do they all have in common? The Bucs pass rush. When you can get to the passer and rattle them, you can shut anyone down, and some of those offenses above were hailed as better than KC.
    Great write up. That 99 Bucs D shut the greatest show on turf down good. Rams were putting up 31, 35, 42 on everybody that season and what did they get that game, 13 iirc. Damn that's a perfect example that anybody can get shutdown if they did. KC O isn't anywhere near as good as that 99 Rams O. HOFers all over QB, RB, top 2 WRs. This game is still damn hard to pick. This is one of the best SB matchups of last 20 years. I think KC is a fg better on a neutral field. This isn't a neutral field like it's supposed to be in a SB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    It should be close. Flip a coin.

    Comparing positions:


    QB = KC
    TE = KC
    WR = TIE
    RB = TIE
    D LINE = TIE
    O LINE = TB
    CB/SAFETY/DB = KC
    LB = TIE
    K = TIE
    SPECIAL TEAMS = KC


    All are very close. Everything says KC wins a close game.
    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post

    there are some ties there that could go to the Bucs honestly (WR, D Line imo). it is a really good matchup.
    Quit reading thread to comment
    when I was this
    So not sure if anyone mentioned it
    But Bucs win at WR ,
    and sort of easily imo
    This , right now.... is the best group of WR
    Tom Brady has ever thrown to in his entire career

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    Only way it's close ...if you are wanting
    to be technical about it ....

    Is if Travis Kelce is counted as receiver
    and not a tight end .

    If you are accounting all the possible
    offensive players who are there to
    run routes and catch footballs
    it's pretty close ...but I think still
    Bucs edge them overall .
    And if you are only talking strictly WRs
    Bucs win , and it's not really that close

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    Kc was minus 3 vs buffalo and handled them easily. Hard to not go with them. GL

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    TB at plus three or nothing.

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