1. 09-23-19 08:37 PM #1
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    Jon and Jay Gruden

    I know both have crap to work with but neither can coach. Might have the two worst teams in the league.
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  2. 09-23-19 08:39 PM #2
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    Chucky can coach. Jay on the other hand will need Dwayne to save his job. otherwise hes toast.
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  3. 09-23-19 08:44 PM #3
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    Washington Franchise... sort of reminds me of Detroit. Yeah... Detroit is winning... but hasn't really been tested by anyone yet.

    Arizona is sh#$

    Chargers are sh#$

    Philadelphia is pretty good... but had quite a few injuries.

    Kansas City will pound Detroit into the ground.
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  4. 09-23-19 08:59 PM #4
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    Jon Gruden won a SB like two decades ago, doesn’t make him a good cosch. Entirely different game now than when he coached back then.
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  5. 09-23-19 08:59 PM #5
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    It’s sad
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  6. 09-23-19 09:25 PM #6
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    Raiders are going to be tough 2020-2025

    They've got an enormous amount of speed and physicalness in the right positions, and very young.

    2 more good drafts and watch out
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  7. 09-23-19 09:27 PM #7
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    I would think Gruden could get fired tomorrow
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  8. 09-23-19 09:27 PM #8
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    No one can win without a QB, keenum and Carr blow.
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  9. 09-23-19 09:29 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Raiders are going to be tough 2020-2025

    They've got an enormous amount of speed and physicalness in the right positions, and very young.

    2 more good drafts and watch out
    yes. they just need to decide if they want to move forward w/ Carr or not. id be shocked if he remains a Raider beyond this season.
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  10. 09-23-19 09:31 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by sosawestbrook View Post
    yes. they just need to decide if they want to move forward w/ Carr or not. id be shocked if he remains a Raider beyond this season.
    Agree, he had 1 good year behind a great offensive line with almost unlimited time to pass. Everyone shits on gruden, cArr is the problem.
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  11. 09-23-19 09:33 PM #11
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    We in Tampa Bay wouldn't have a Super Bowl if not for Gruden getting the job done that Tony Dungy couldn't.

    But you're right, maybe the game has changed too much since he's been gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Agree, he had 1 good year behind a great offensive line with almost unlimited time to pass. Everyone shits on gruden, cArr is the problem.
    I am ok with Carr. I just don't think he is the guy for this franchise. Gruden will want to pick up a QB & mold him into the franchise star. he didn't sign for 10 years to shift through a bunch of middle of the pack QB's. Raiders have a bunch of assets to make a move if they so please.
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  13. 09-23-19 09:34 PM #13
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    no jay is just bad
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  14. 09-23-19 11:41 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    We in Tampa Bay wouldn't have a Super Bowl if not for Gruden getting the job done that Tony Dungy couldn't.

    But you're right, maybe the game has changed too much since he's been gone.
    I remember that Super Bowl like it was yesterday....

    One of my favorite Super Bowl's ever. Happy Tampa Bay won it.
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  15. 09-23-19 11:59 PM #15
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    Chucky was stupid for going back to coaching. Cush job in the booth. Making damn good money. Working 1 day a week. Plenty of time for his "giving-back-to-the-kids" projects.
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