[DwightShrute]

Also, it's completely legal for their NFL to fix their own games, read this: http://thefixisin.net/legal.html

[Da Manster!]

[TonyTall]

They didn't. Watch the whole video and open your mind. How did kaepernick turn the ball over 3 times in the 4th quarter and still be a play from winning the game? Because the 49ers dominated them and should have won by a large margin.

thats ridiculous. total yardage was dead even 308 a piece. niners jumped out 10-0 and looked good. then they had one scoring drive out of their last 8 possesions. you think the 12th man and that defense had a little something to do about that? or did the NFL make that happen

[pixster]

FYI, I didn't make the video.

Its a cool video post, though...it generates a discussion about a controversial topic and creates a foundation for exploration and exploitation from all sides. By some of the responses this thread is getting, I can tell that some people already appear to be in 49er-fade mode come playoff time next year. That's just were the books want you.

[The Giant]

This video reminds me of people stringing pieces of the puzzle together proving that Sandy Hook didn't really happen.

The parallel is always the same: The videomakers do it from their parents basements.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Video is doctored..bs.....you call tell by the pausing put together by kapernick hoping to foil Wilson's rising status..I see him sitting in his computer room kussibg his biceps saying the cheated they cheated.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Nice vid but was pretty obvious while watching the gm live.

[k13]

Actually don't troll but had on numerous occasions been told by k13 how SF better team and such just told his ass the truth..SEA OWNS SF..PERIOD

I think sf won 3 out of the last 5 against seattle.
How is that owning?

Who's got more super bowls?
Who will always have more super bowls.....

[Ramster]

I knew it was fixed the moment I saw Seattle making a TD on 4th and 7. That was so obvious.

[freakydave]

I think sf won 3 out of the last 5 against seattle.
How is that owning?

Who's got more super bowls?
Who will always have more super bowls.....

Hey man you are one of the good guys on this site -Seattle was the better team this season & people who think outcomes are predetermined shouldn't gamble.

[lunch]

great teams dont let refs decide the games, run up a 40 point lead and you have no worries

[k13]

Hey man you are one of the good guys on this site -Seattle was the better team this season & people who think outcomes are predetermined shouldn't gamble.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ne-niners.html

I did bet on Seattle.

To me, I don't think the team that wins the Super Bowl is the "best" team, Baltimore was not last year and many other teams along the way, especially all those Giants teams.

Play good, catch a few breaks/calls, you are champion, not like you have to win best out of 7 or anything.

[BigdaddyQH]

Hey man you are one of the good guys on this site -Seattle was the better team this season & people who think outcomes are predetermined shouldn't gamble.

Spot on. If you degenerates actually believe that the games are fixed, simply do NOT gamble. Stop your constant moaning and groaning every time you lose a wager, which is often. The fact is that a very large percentage of you have absolutely no clue as to what you are doing to begin with. This is why so many of you are losers. It is funny how no one complains about games being fixed if they win a wager. Take a hike you phonies. Just stop wagering and take your crap elsewhere.

[Twiz]

Video is worth watching. Didn't see much credible evidence in the first half of the video...goal line run was obviously short, 15 yarder at end of the half was "callable" although questionable. Lynch short on 2 and 5 but that was a very challenge-able play so obviously it wasn't clear in real time that he was down in that mess of players. The "helmet to helmet" early on was a clean hit but I dare someone to say it doesn't look vicious in real time.

All that said, the two clock keeping issues, ESPECIALLY the pre mature delay of game on the 9ers...that's just fishy. There is NO explanation for an "honest" mistake there and I encourage anyone to persuade me otherwise. You start the play clock once Kap runs out of bounds...for it to expire 5 seconds early, you'd have to start the play clock early or call the delay of game 5 seconds early...Neither is explainable, neither is possible...

I watch the NFL every Thursday, Sunday, Monday...no exceptions. Every game. I want nothing more than the NFL to be an honest league. That said, watching the NFC 'ship and the superbowl, I would love for anyone to show me a game EVER where the refs "let them play" the way seattle DBs were allowed to. The fact that a defensive holding/PI could have been called on just about any play in those 2 games...just disappointing. Not saying the seattle DBs had any more freedom than den/SF's, just that its a shame those games were called so differently than any game in recent memory. Disappointing.

Not a salty loser, did have denver in the SB, but also made a killing end of the year and playoffs so I got no issues with losing the SB...strictly looking for integrity.

[BigDaddy]

great teams dont let refs decide the games, run up a 40 point lead and you have no worries

yeah 40 pt leads in the nfl are the norm

lol

[BigdaddyQH]

Video is worth watching. Didn't see much credible evidence in the first half of the video...goal line run was obviously short, 15 yarder at end of the half was "callable" although questionable. Lynch short on 2 and 5 but that was a very challenge-able play so obviously it wasn't clear in real time that he was down in that mess of players. The "helmet to helmet" early on was a clean hit but I dare someone to say it doesn't look vicious in real time.

All that said, the two clock keeping issues, ESPECIALLY the pre mature delay of game on the 9ers...that's just fishy. There is NO explanation for an "honest" mistake there and I encourage anyone to persuade me otherwise. You start the play clock once Kap runs out of bounds...for it to expire 5 seconds early, you'd have to start the play clock early or call the delay of game 5 seconds early...Neither is explainable, neither is possible...

I watch the NFL every Thursday, Sunday, Monday...no exceptions. Every game. I want nothing more than the NFL to be an honest league. That said, watching the NFC 'ship and the superbowl, I would love for anyone to show me a game EVER where the refs "let them play" the way seattle DBs were allowed to. The fact that a defensive holding/PI could have been called on just about any play in those 2 games...just disappointing. Not saying the seattle DBs had any more freedom than den/SF's, just that its a shame those games were called so differently than any game in recent memory. Disappointing.

Not a salty loser, did have denver in the SB, but also made a killing end of the year and playoffs so I got no issues with losing the SB...strictly looking for integrity.

Maybe in your eyes you saw things and think that the CC and SB were called differently that "any other games" you have ever seen, but all that tells me is exactly how much of an amateur you really are. You depend on camera angles to make your decisions instead of the officials who were on top of the actual plays. You claim to have made lots of money over the season, but you have 0 betpoints and are NOT a Pro. That does NOT look real well. Nice try, but all of your posts tells me that you would have never posted what you did if Denver had won. Again, if you do not like the way games are being called, do NOT wager on them. You are not even close to being an expert, sol stop making off like you are.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Seriously guys there is plenty to go on that would indicate the refs were very shady in this gm leaning in Hawks direction. For everyone pointing out Kaeps picks you have to realize they were all late after many of these calls had been made which helped shift momentum Seattle's way and take the lead in a gm they had been outplayed the whole way. Is what it is tho I was on Frisco but understand these things happen just part of sports. Nfl is exempt far as liability goes for fixing games and in the end there is really no "true" way to prove anything but the eyes don't lie. Anyone who thinks fixing in sports even at the pro level does not happen ... then I have some oceanfront property in Iowa I would love to sell you if interested!

[MoneyzForSportz]

Why doesn't someone make a video of the panthers vs 49ers game as well? I am a 9er fan and we got a lot of favorable calls in that game. There are always going to be questionable to bad calls in every game. If you point out each individual play then some people will believe it. If the NFL was rigged, the Broncos would have won the SB imo. Just deal with it and move on my fellow 49er fans.

[pulledclear]

You want to know something that is not rigged?
















You're an IDIOT.

[lunch]

yeah 40 pt leads in the nfl are the norm

lol

too much parity in the NFL, 10 teams can win every year

[BigdaddyQH]

too much parity in the NFL, 10 teams can win every year

That is the way the NFL likes it. Look at MLB. After the first month, half of the teams are lucky to draw 10,000 fans. The NFL wants all of their teams to sell out every game. Here are two good examples. Carolina could not give tickets away, buth then they started to win, and UP go the ticket sales. They may sell every game out next season before one is played. Atlanta sold out every game, and had a terrible season, so their ticket sales will suffer, that is until their first real big win. Then they jump right back up.

[capone1899]

I'll take "What losers that bet SF in the NFC Championship game say for 800, Alex."

I lost so "the game was rigged."

[freakydave]

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ne-niners.html

I did bet on Seattle.

To me, I don't think the team that wins the Super Bowl is the "best" team, Baltimore was not last year and many other teams along the way, especially all those Giants teams.

Play good, catch a few breaks/calls, you are champion, not like you have to win best out of 7 or anything.

I agree the best team doesn't always win but this season they did.-I didn't mean to say you were sayng It was "fixed"-this thread is just a lot of sour grapes by people who backed SF & then Denver -Here's a clear example of a 7game series that was won by a lesser team the boston bruins def Vancouver 4gms to 3

[BigdaddyQH]

You guys really know so little about pro sports and wagering. McMurphy, how much money do you want to lose? Name what you can afford. Guys who know absolutely NOTHING about Vegas and wagering really should keep their highly uneducated mouths shut. Another san Francisco loser blaming the ref's. There is one little thing that goes on in Vegas that would shut all of you illiterates up. Does anyone care to comment on what that may be?

[Ramster]

I am sick of cappers(are they?) seemingly trying to knock sense into conversation of game fixing , sounding like some real veterans trying to shoot down suspicions. Don't try and BS some clear anomalies obvious to the naked eye. These guys are like stewards preaching innocence of the game making believers and eventual suckers.

[homie1975]

another sore loser

[homie1975]

home teams get hometown calls, this is sports 101 if you have been watching for at least two years, you figure out, i've been watching over 20 yrs and it's clear,

it's one of the many reasons teams want home field and home court advantage.

another sore loser posts

[Twiz]

Maybe in your eyes you saw things and think that the CC and SB were called differently that "any other games" you have ever seen, but all that tells me is exactly how much of an amateur you really are. You depend on camera angles to make your decisions instead of the officials who were on top of the actual plays. You claim to have made lots of money over the season, but you have 0 betpoints and are NOT a Pro. That does NOT look real well. Nice try, but all of your posts tells me that you would have never posted what you did if Denver had won. Again, if you do not like the way games are being called, do NOT wager on them. You are not even close to being an expert, sol stop making off like you are.

Who are you? Where are your plays? Why have you stayed on this site for 4 years posting 10 times a day if no one values a thing you say. I never claimed "lots of money." I ended the season 15-6 documented and went + money across 60+ plays two seasons in a row (my only two seasons betting ever). I don't even know what a betpoint is. "I would have never posted if Denver won"...because for denver to win the game it would have had to have been officiated differently. That is the one thing that NO ONE can debate. It was clear from the first quarter that the officials were "letting them play" and that guaranteed seattle a win. I never even alluded to biased officiating. You're embarrassing yourself.

Matter fact ignore everything above. Answer this question. How does a delay of game get called 5 seconds prematurely? The stopwatch malfunctioned and was moving at 1.14x the speed? The official accidentally started the playclock before kaepernick ran out of bounds from the play before? Dude looked at his stopwatch and misread 35 as 40? You find me ANY slightly feasible explanation for that. Entertain me.

[freakydave]

This video is absolute junk

[I/O]

Spot on. If you degenerates actually believe that the games are fixed, simply do NOT gamble. Stop your constant moaning and groaning every time you lose a wager, which is often. The fact is that a very large percentage of you have absolutely no clue as to what you are doing to begin with. This is why so many of you are losers. It is funny how no one complains about games being fixed if they win a wager. Take a hike you phonies. Just stop wagering and take your crap elsewhere.

[RonPaul2008]

The most obvious and irrefutable "f*ckup" by the refs is the ludicrously early delay of game called on San Francisco on 3rd and 1 at a crucial point in the game. No matter how you slice it, the last play ended at 11:12 , meaning the next playclock should expire at 10:32. San Francisco snapped the ball at 10:37, a full 5 seconds before the play clock should run out. This can clearly be seen from 11:21-11:35 in the video above. I dare anyone in this thread to prove I am wrong about the delay of game being called way early.

[Kaabee]

The most obvious and irrefutable "f*ckup" by the refs is the ludicrously early delay of game called on San Francisco on 3rd and 1 at a crucial point in the game. No matter how you slice it, the last play ended at 11:12 , meaning the next playclock should expire at 10:32. San Francisco snapped the ball at 10:37, a full 5 seconds before the play clock should run out. This can clearly be seen from 11:21-11:35 in the video above. I dare anyone in this thread to prove I am wrong about the delay of game being called way early.

It's really quite simple. The game clock stopped because it was an out of bounds play. It will not be started until the ready for play signal. The play clock, however, starts right away. There's your mysterious 5 second difference.

[str]

This is the rule book :


"Time between plays will be 40 seconds from the end of a given play until the snap of the ball for the next play, or a 25-second interval after certain administrative stoppages and game delays."

[RonPaul2008]

It's really quite simple. The game clock stopped because it was an out of bounds play. It will not be started until the ready for play signal. The play clock, however, starts right away. There's your mysterious 5 second difference.

What you just said makes no sense at all. He went out of bounds at 11:12. Play clock starts right away, fine....11:12-40 seconds = 10:32. 10:37 is early. You are confused my friend.

[Kaabee]

he went out of bounds at 11:12. play clock starts right away. game clock starts when play clock is at 35 seconds. game clock runs down from 11:12 to 10:37 (35 seconds of game clock/40 seconds of play clock). delay of game.