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    Art Vandelay
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    More "screwed up" team: Dallas or Philly

    Numbers are good, talent is good, results are awful. Dallas is a trainwreck late in games and Philly just seems to be going thru the motions. That was embarrassing last night. My vote is for Philly - at least Dallas is giving effort before they "shit the bed".

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    Dallas

    Philly is screwed up a bit as well, but..........due to injuries to the o-line...........they simply are out-matched.

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    Dallas is a good team with shit coaches....D C RYAN is decent tho..

    Philly....many injuries, Reid has over-stayed his welcome(sometimes a change just to make a change is a good thing), oh and Vick straight up sucks........guy got paid, most knew it would happen........black qb's aren't gonna take you far anyway and especially this guy with his past history...then you pay him....ha, get what you paid for.

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    Philly is injury riddled and have an O-line equivalent to swiss cheese.

    Dallas is just being it's retarded self believing tony romo is god's greatest gift to football.

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    Dallas is a far better team that's had a few brain farts. They could easily be 5-3 or 6-2. Philly is awful and their coach can't be 100 percent with the loss of his son this season.

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    jets

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Walters View Post
    Dallas

    Philly is screwed up a bit as well, but..........due to injuries to the o-line...........they simply are out-matched.
    My feeling also.

    Dallas is the worst of the two.

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    philly

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    Dallas is in a far better situation talent wise.

    Philly's only advantage over Dallas is that Philly doesn't have to deal with Jerry.

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    Add in Washington and it's gotta be a great time to be a Giants fan with these 3 division rivals all in a tailspin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    Numbers are good, talent is good, results are awful. Dallas is a trainwreck late in games and Philly just seems to be going thru the motions. That was embarrassing last night. My vote is for Philly - at least Dallas is giving effort before they "shit the bed".
    birds have flown the coop. reid is done in philly. too many players have quit. 2010-2011 drafts have killed them. too many free agents, not enough homegrown talent. they had a players only meeting midweek before atl game. what a joke...some of them probebly asked, who's that guy?

    redzone o is pathetic. o-line is a sieve. 4 starters out. can't stop blitz. if they start foles he would get murdered. deffensive flaws consistantly exposed. overhyped line not getting enough pressure. can't stop a team on 3rd down....on and on.

    romo usually very good in nov. both teams have alot of talent. . for different reasons they both underachieve. bottom line...neither team going to playoffs.

    another thing they have in common. both will have new coaches next year. reid won't have a problem finding another head coaching job. not sure about garrett

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    Somebody has to win this turd bowl coming up right?!?! Been saying all week that at least 1 of these teams makes a push in the 2nd half of the year. Dallas really disappointed Sunday night vs. a team I find a little over-rated and not totally sold on yet. However after watching Philly closely last night they truly are done for the year. Defense has too many holes, does not tackle well, and a secondary who can be burned at any second. Offensive line is just a tragedy and won't give the over-rated/average at best Vick anytime to get the ball to his one trick pony "go route" receivers. I think Ryan and that defense gives Philly nightmares this weekend and the boys get the W on the road if they can stick to running the ball to set up Homo for the big shots and he protects the football. Game stays un 40 I believe as well!

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    Philly. Vick has lost it mentally, hes checked out on his team for the year. Dont see any fire in his eyes. At least Romo tries and looks like he gives a damn out there.

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    Romo > Vick
    Cowboys D > Eagles D
    Cowboys O-line > Eagles O-line
    Cowboys receivers = Eagles receivers
    Cowboys RB's < Eagles RB's

    Dallas at least is 3-5 ATS this season, as opposed to Philly's 1-6-1

    Philly's drama with D-coordinator being fired, Vick possibly being benched and Reid possibly being fired doesn't help either.

    Dallas been competitive in every game (except embarrassment vs. Bears)

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    philly by faaaar

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    Dallas ... because they're Dallas ... and because they refuse to acknowledge their three problems and fix them. I think the Eagles will resolve theirs after two years of waffling.

    1. Jerry Jones being and running the show.
    2. Thinking Jason Garrett is a good coach.
    3. Thinking Tony Romo can win big games.

    Eagles have #2/#3 with their own personnel, but at least they don't have an overbearing egomaniac trying to make personnel decisions who has no clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    Dallas ... because they're Dallas ... and because they refuse to acknowledge their three problems and fix them. I think the Eagles will resolve theirs after two years of waffling.

    1. Jerry Jones being and running the show.
    2. Thinking Jason Garrett is a good coach.
    3. Thinking Tony Romo can win big games.

    Eagles have #2/#3 with their own personnel, but at least they don't have an overbearing egomaniac trying to make personnel decisions who has no clue.
    This made me LOL, what big games has Vick won?

    Also, one could argue Philly has done less with more talent than Dallas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    Dallas ... because they're Dallas ... and because they refuse to acknowledge their three problems and fix them. I think the Eagles will resolve theirs after two years of waffling.

    1. Jerry Jones being and running the show.
    2. Thinking Jason Garrett is a good coach.
    3. Thinking Tony Romo can win big games.

    Eagles have #2/#3 with their own personnel, but at least they don't have an overbearing egomaniac trying to make personnel decisions who has no clue.
    I don't blame Jerry Jones nor Romo for Dallas' shortcomings. Jason Garrett however calls terrible games, has poor clock management skills and is the reason they lost against Atlanta. Not every INT is Romo's fault and to his credit he usually plays better in the more meaningful months. The defense is too good this year for Dallas to stop short of the playoffs.

    The Eagles on the other hand remind me of some Yankees teams --- great collection of highly overpaid athletes but seemingly no team foundation, a head coach well past his expiration date and a joke of a situation at defensive coordinator.

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    People who blame Tony Romo for Dallas' issues are obvious SportsCenter sports fans. They don't watch full games, they just catch highlights or game recaps.

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    Romo isn't the whole issue, but the dude is a large part of it. He's got more picks than Vick ... LoL. Seemingly impossible.

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    Right now Philly.
    BUT, Lurie will be capable of hiring a coach that will give us fans a solid team in years to come, as Jerry Jones will still be the control freak he is, not allowing any coach he hires to do anything. Itīs all about the owners. In the long run,as long as Jerry Jones is alive, Philadelphia will have more playoffs and winning years than Dallas.

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    The loser of this game wont make the play offs. If Dallas win they are in a decent position to make the play offs. If Philly win they are still in bad shape.

    Both Cowboys and Eagles have favorable schedules compared to Giants who has a monster ending schedule. The Cowboys problems are easier solved than the Eagles imo. If Eagles were able to stop the bleeding they'd be in better shape than the Cowboys but I don't think they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p19101 View Post
    The loser of this game wont make the play offs. If Dallas win they are in a decent position to make the play offs. If Philly win they are still in bad shape.
    Eagles will not make the playoffs, no matter what.

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    Philly is the more disinterested and dysfunctional team imo. This weeks game will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altieriflyers View Post
    Eagles will not make the playoffs, no matter what.
    Eagles have Cowboys x2 and the Giants. That alone would get them right back in it. Not saying they will, but chance is still available. Giants can easily lose that game, they are a lose cannon, you never know what team will show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by will2survive View Post
    Dallas is a far better team that's had a few brain farts. They could easily be 5-3 or 6-2. Philly is awful and their coach can't be 100 percent with the loss of his son this season.
    garrett has never been 100%, 100% trash,,,,dude is a horrible fukkin coach, of coarse no real coach wants to coach for jerry jones as he thinks he runs the team, until he takes a step back and hires a guy and turns over control dal will suck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by p19101 View Post
    Eagles have Cowboys x2 and the Giants. That alone would get them right back in it. Not saying they will, but chance is still available. Giants can easily lose that game, they are a lose cannon, you never know what team will show up.
    how long will it take for philly fans to admit they are terrible? cant wait till they mathematically eliminated so we can stop hearing how they "have a chance",,,gtfoh w that shit..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelRain View Post
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    Chiefs.

    On topic: Eagles are the more screwed team.
    Andy Reid is an over hyped head coach, and do I dare say it, a terrible head coach.

    Giants have been playing like shit lately also, yet are going to win the division in a sleep walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altieriflyers View Post
    Right now Philly.
    BUT, Lurie will be capable of hiring a coach that will give us fans a solid team in years to come, as Jerry Jones will still be the control freak he is, not allowing any coach he hires to do anything. Itīs all about the owners. In the long run,as long as Jerry Jones is alive, Philadelphia will have more playoffs and winning years than Dallas.
    no coach that has options is gonna coach for jones unless he brings peyton in and hands over control, until then dal stuck with morons like garrett who will never win shit..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Chiefs.

    On topic: Eagles are the more screwed team.
    Andy Reid is an over hyped head coach, and do I dare say it, a terrible head coach.

    Giants have been playing like shit lately also, yet are going to win the division in a sleep walk.
    id take reid over garrettt,,not that that saying a whole lot but garrett is a miserable coach, wasnt even a good oc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    how long will it take for philly fans to admit they are terrible? cant wait till they mathematically eliminated so we can stop hearing how they "have a chance",,,gtfoh w that shit..
    Both teams really have the talent to be playoff teams. So the idiots in charge should see that it's not getting done with the current staffs and make changes. Solid football guys could win with either team IMO.

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    The most screwed up team are the Eagles. The most frustrating team are the Cowboys. They should have beat the dirty birds straight up and hooked me up with a 10-teamer win. Too much red zone ineptness for both teams.
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    art vandelay. awesome name.

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    Philly is way more screwed up and it is not even close. At least Dallas competes in their games. Philly just gets blown out.

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    agreed w/ most-- dallas ain't as bad as and 95% of the game they are a joy to watch

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