[zoo youk]

what am i missing here???????

[Louisvillekid1]

lol I have no clue, that looks like it should be 1st quarter lol

[zoo youk]

seriously....Giants coming off a short week...Newton is going to cause major havoc. just don't understand this line at all.

[zoo youk]

i guess the books expect the giants pass rush to disrupt Newton but Carolina has been running the ball very very well...which will neutralize that pass rush

[Easy-Rider 66]

Where are you getting that line? I see over 13 minus 115.

[Monitor-Tan]

i guess the books expect the giants pass rush to disrupt Newton but Carolina has been running the ball very very well...which will neutralize that pass rush

Carolina hasn't been running the ball well at all.. They rush like a single digit yard in the first game, and last week their lead rusher was their QB.. Giants from what I remember does a goo djob containing running QB like Vick and give fits.. It's a good match at secondary for the Carolina but overal it's a poor match up for Carolina on the offensive side against Giants defense up front..

Also Giants being on short week is meaningless since Carolina played on Sunday and they too are on short week.. Even though Giants are traveling, it's only an hour and half plane ride. It means nothing.. Giants also have good WR depth side losing Nicks suck but it won't hur tthem as much.. Giants will pound that ball and Manning will catch them on play action couple of times..

Lines over reacting to Nicks not playing.

[wikkidinsane]

Who the Giants going to pound the ball with?

[Easy-Rider 66]

Carolina hasn't been running the ball well at all.. They rush like a single digit yard in the first game, and last week their lead rusher was their QB.. Giants from what I remember does a goo djob containing running QB like Vick and give fits.. It's a good match at secondary for the Carolina but overal it's a poor match up for Carolina on the offensive side against Giants defense up front..

Also Giants being on short week is meaningless since Carolina played on Sunday and they too are on short week.. Even though Giants are traveling, it's only an hour and half plane ride. It means nothing.. Giants also have good WR depth side losing Nicks suck but it won't hur tthem as much.. Giants will pound that ball and Manning will catch them on play action couple of times..

Lines over reacting to Nicks not playing.

Don't forget that Car was the 3rd best rushing team last year. Stewart and Williams rushed for about 5 yards a clip last week. Throw out that 1st game against TB. Car should be able to run tonight, but I see more damage by Newton through the air. Playing Car.

[Monitor-Tan]

Who the Giants going to pound the ball with?

Andre Brown is supposed to be the starter tonight for the Giants

[celtics12]

last year they averaged 11.8 pts in the 1st half and so far this year they averaged 10.5

[KingJD31]

These prime time games always seem sloppy but I can't resist the overs,

[Monitor-Tan]

I don't htink Jonathan steward will do much or williams. Not saying Carolina will win or lose, just saying the reasoning behind it is not correct saying Carolina has been rushing the ball well recently, because they haven't..

giants secondary is dog shit so they will have success in the air, so if Newton wants to throw, that line better hold..

[Easy-Rider 66]

I don't htink Jonathan steward will do much or williams. Not saying Carolina will win or lose, just saying the reasoning behind it is not correct saying Carolina has been rushing the ball well recently, because they haven't..

giants secondary is dog shit so they will have success in the air, so if Newton wants to throw, that line better hold..

I know the NO'S D is dogshit, but Car ran for 219 yards last week and avg over 5 yards a carry. So they had one bad running game and 1 very good one. They will be fine running the ball this year imo.

[yisman]

Heritage

O 13 -115
U 13 -115


Greek has 13 as well

[KingJD31]

Also giants have the worst run defense in NFL their pass rushers over pursue

[Monitor-Tan]

Also giants have the worst run defense in NFL their pass rushers over pursue

Couldn't be more wrong.. They are ranked in the middle of the pack in rush defense so far.. So I don't know where you got that..

[CAS2550]

I have o/u 10 1/2 as well. Panthers -140 Giants -130 for the over

[KingJD31]

I was going based on last year but just looked up they were 19th in rush d last year swear I thought they were 32 regardless they got the same d that was ranked 19 and Carolina was 3 in rush offense, mismatch

Couldn't be more wrong.. They are ranked in the middle of the pack in rush defense so far.. So I don't know where you got that..

[wikkidinsane]

Carolina got a balanced running game man and what they did against the SAINTS is god damn impressive

C. Newton	13	71	5.5	1	40
D. Williams	14	69	4.9	1	27
J. Stewart	11	51	4.6	0	16

Look how Murray beasted Giants in their first game. Carolina will have their way and win by atleast 6 points tonight

D. Murray

20

131

6.6

0

48

[ronzer]

[maseda17]

Careful of that hook though. You are basically saying Carolina will put up 13 in the first. Likely but not the given you think.

[zoo youk]

Careful of that hook though. You are basically saying Carolina will put up 13 in the first. Likely but not the given you think.

not first quarter. first HALF

[zoo youk]

i think this game is going to be a shoot out. 35-31 type of game. can't resist this play.

[maseda17]

not first quarter. first HALF

I know its the first half. I expect a reasonably high scoring game as well but knowing you need 13 to cover for the half, you have the Panthers on pace for a 26 point game. I think that's probably a good bet as I see the total for the game over 49 but wouldn't be shocked by a Giants 14-10 halftime score and you lose.

[zoo youk]

I know its the first half. I expect a reasonably high scoring game as well but knowing you need 13 to cover for the half, you have the Panthers on pace for a 26 point game. I think that's probably a good bet as I see the total for the game over 49 but wouldn't be shocked by a Giants 14-10 halftime score and you lose.

bro. i need 11 to cover the first half.

[maseda17]

bro. i need 11 to cover the first half.

lol you may only need 11 but you are counting on 13. That's why books put a hook out there because the novice gambler doesn't look at the significance of it. They are getting a couple extra points out of it knowing an 11 or 12 point total isn't very likely.

[KingJD31]

You need 13 giants are not going to kick 4 field goals or for some reason go for 2 pt conversion, I think you hit it but you need 13 or if you can buy the hook get it down to 10

bro. i need 11 to cover the first half.

[zoo youk]

You need 13 giants are not going to kick 4 field goals or for some reason go for 2 pt conversion, I think you hit it but you need 13 or if you can buy the hook get it down to 10

yeah, I understand that. personally i think they put up 14-17

[zoo youk]

lol you may only need 11 but you are counting on 13. That's why books put a hook out there because the novice gambler doesn't look at the significance of it. They are getting a couple extra points out of it knowing an 11 or 12 point total isn't very likely.

my bad. i was kind of just quick reading your post and not taking it in. I know they aren't going to score 11 points lol and the possibility of 4 FGs is low and the hook throws in a monkey wrench.. I still just think its worth the play imo

[zoo youk]

You need 13 giants are not going to kick 4 field goals or for some reason go for 2 pt conversion, I think you hit it but you need 13 or if you can buy the hook get it down to 10

its Carolina anyway. but i know you were just making a point.

[maseda17]

I agree with you that its a sound bet. GL

[BettingWizard]

panther score 10

[slay0r]

my book o24 for first half.. sheesh

[Pick'nParlays]

13 -115 at 5Dimes

[rdegk15]

13 (-130) at Bovada