[Br0nxer]

assuming who we think wins in the NFC wins

Saints at 9ers
Giants at Packers

going out to vegas next weekend and looking to drop the fukkin hammer on a game
what will the lines be

also AFC predictions and lines

[Holtgetsback]

49ers -2.5 45
packers -6.5 52.5

[LT Profits]

49ers -2.5 45
packers -6.5 52.5

Can you be my bookie?

If those are the matchups:

Saints -3.5
Packers -10.5

[lakerboy]

Can you be my bookie?

If those are the matchups:

Saints -3.5
Packers -10.5

so packers lay 7 in new york but now only 3.5 more at home???

Saints -3
Packers -13

[LT Profits]

so packers lay 7 in new york but now only 3.5 more at home???

Saints -3
Packers -13

Packers are only -8 on Sagarin, so -10.5 or -11

[KingJD31]

first off its gonna be atl not nyg

[Br0nxer]

so packers lay 7 in new york but now only 3.5 more at home???

Saints -3
Packers -13

seems about right

[LT Profits]

first off its gonna be atl not nyg

Packers -10 over Atlanta

[moses millsap]

Saints -3.5
Packers -10

[convick]

SF -2.5 vs NO
GB - 11 vs NYG
GB - 9.5 vs ATL

I do not see how the Saints are favored @ SF.

[LT Profits]

SF -2.5 vs NO
GB - 11 vs NYG
GB - 9.5 vs ATL

I do not see how the Saints are favored @ SF.

Saints are DEFINITELY favored, and -3.5 is more likely than -3

[rm18]

injury situation is way different in GB NY matchup now plus that 7 point line was a joke.

GB -9.5
Saints -3 -115
Patriots -3.5
Ravens -8

[HoulihansTX]

If th Saint open -3.5 @SF. How quick does the line go to 2.5? 10/ 25/60 seconds?

[LT Profits]

If th Saint open -3.5 @SF. How quick does the line go to 2.5? 10/ 25/60 seconds?

No it won't go below 3. If anything, it will go up a tad. I don't even think it will go on 3, I think it stays 3.5 minimum.

[LT Profits]

Important note: I am not saying Saints will win, I am just saying what line will be.

[HoulihansTX]

The "smart" guys down here do not like the Saints on grass. I never paid much attention to how much the field surface has changed th game. Some of the old heads have told me that grass used to be poorly kept on football fields, and with the upgrades in landscaping techniques. the play has become much faster.

For example, I would not touch the under in todays bowl game.

[k13]

Saints are DEFINITELY favored, and -3.5 is more likely than -3

Before Week 17 the line was Saints +3.

[k13]

The line will be around a pk/-1

[LT Profits]

Before Week 17 the line was Saints +3.

The line will be around a pk/-1

No it was not and no way. The Saints have had considerably shorter odds on the futures for quite some time. Line will be Saints -3.5, so be happy if you like the Niners.

[k13]

No it was not and no way. The Saints have had considerably shorter odds on the futures for quite some time. Line will be Saints -3.5, so be happy if you like the Niners.

500 point bet they won't be -3.5 or higher

[LT Profits]

500 point bet they won't be -3.5 or higher

I don't want to take your points. Just look at Pinny odds to win the NFC right now. Despite having to play an extra game and having to play at SF assuming they get by Detroit, Saints are still +298 while Niners are +653. That's all you need to know.

[k13]

I don't want to take your points. Just look at Pinny odds to win the NFC right now. Despite having to play an extra game and having to play at SF assuming they get by Detroit, Saints are still +298 while Niners are +653. That's all you need to know.

Saints were -4.5 vs Titans or lower and now they are going to be -3.5 vs Niners

Vegas only has Saints 2-3 points better so game will be close to a pick.

Are you saying the Saints are 6.5 points better than the Steelers?
Yeah Ben hobbled but still....saints a different team on grass/road/outdoors.

Let's make a friendly 100 point bet then. No loss for either one of us.

[LT Profits]

Saints were -4.5 vs Titans or lower and now they are going to be -3.5 vs Niners

Vegas only has Saints 2-3 points better so game will be close to a pick.

Are you saying the Saints are 6.5 points better than the Steelers?
Yeah Ben hobbled but still....saints a different team on grass/road/outdoors.

Let's make a friendly 100 point bet then. No loss for either one of us.

What are you talking about? Playoff lines are merely extrapolations of future odds. Stop comparing to regular season lines, that means absolutely nothing. People were saying I was nuts when I said Packers would be -3.5 at Chicago in NFC Championship Game last year too, it is not that hard to project lines using Pinny futures.

[RealSlimShady]

Saints PK SF
GB -10 NY

[LT Profits]

I give up! People that can't figure out that Saints will be minimum of -3 and probably slightly higher just by looking at Pinny futures probably shouldn't be betting.

[RealSlimShady]

Wow...you're right, LT. Didnt look at the futures prices. Saints will definitely be favored over SF...probably 4.

[jjgold]

Let's settle down and wait could be an upset

[k13]

What are you talking about? Playoff lines are merely extrapolations of future odds. Stop comparing to regular season lines, that means absolutely nothing. People were saying I was nuts when I said Packers would be -3.5 at Chicago in NFC Championship Game last year too, it is not that hard to project lines using Pinny futures.

Not really. They just use their adjusted power rankings and add HFA and public bias.

Houston/Cincy Both 89 power. 3 for HFA = -3
Giants/Atlanta Both 92 power. 3 for HFA = -3

Saints = 98 power
Detroit = 91 power
4 for HFA = -11

Simple and spot on. The only line that is off is Pitt/Den


Your "future" extrapolations don't make sense, one example is a pointless sample.


Giants futures +1800
Atlanta futures +4000

You do your math how the spread is only -3 with HFA.

If we were using your theory it would be at least -7.

[lakerboy]

Lions win ends this thread

[4TH AND STUPID]

detroit @ gb -11.5

atl @ sf -3

hou @ bal -6.5

pit @ n.e -7

[LT Profits]

Not really. They just use their adjusted power rankings and add HFA and public bias.

Houston/Cincy Both 89 power. 3 for HFA = -3
Giants/Atlanta Both 92 power. 3 for HFA = -3

Saints = 98 power
Detroit = 91 power
4 for HFA = -11

Simple and spot on. The only line that is off is Pitt/Den


Your "future" extrapolations don't make sense, one example is a pointless sample.


Giants futures +1800
Atlanta futures +4000

You do your math how the spread is only -3 with HFA.

If we were using your theory it would be at least -7.

Where are you getting your numbers from? Giants are +1300 and Falcons are +2500, so it extrapolates to Giants ML of -151. Perfect. Saints/49ers extrapolates to Saints ML of -185.

[Big Bear]

Saints -3 @ SF

Packers -8.5 vs Giants

Saints will win and cover. And Giants beat the Packers straight up.

NFC Championship

Giants @ Saints

[Big Bear]

the lines are already up at 5 dimes

[Sdotbold]

Saints -3 @ SF

Packers -8.5 vs Giants

Saints will win and cover. And Giants beat the Packers straight up.

NFC Championship

Giants @ Saints

I also like the giants to upset the packers in green bay.

[LT Profits]

the lines are already up at 5 dimes

Based on that, Saints will be -4 or -4.5 over 49ers and Packers will be -9 or -9.5 vs, Falcons OR -9.5 or -10 vs. Giants