[SportGTI]

I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on this match-up. It seems most are looking at the O47.5 (give or a take a bit) in this game. I usually don't play O/U that much but am very much liking the Vikings today. Problem is that they are on the road today and have looked god-awful at times on the road.

This is what I'm looking at in this game:

- Adrian Peterson should have a field day against the Panthers' run defense which is near the bottom; Michael Turner gashed them for over 200 a few weeks ago and Tim Hightower was off to a solid start before the injury bug riddled him

- The Vikings looked to show life with Ponder in the game; though this is Ponder's first road start, I like Ponder to be able to find some holes in the secondary as he did against Green Bay. I think he could have 225 yards with 1TD and 1INT

- This one scares me; Cam Newton. Vikes pass defense is atrocious at times and Cam could light it up with Steve Smith providing most of the damage. The Vikes have a great pass rush, but this could hurt them with the "escapability" of Cameron Newton

- I like the Vikings IF they can contain Newton and use AP to control the clock. I could see a 21 - 17 victory (which is why I'm staying away from the O/U)

What are your guys' thoughts. I'd like to play Minnesota on the ML at +160. Is there value in this pick? Or am I throwing the money down the drain?

Thoughts and comments always appreciated

[gimpy]

ML is a good play. I know a few people who are on it.

I think that Cammy is going to run into some issues. I don't know how well his o-line will hold up this week, but if he can get some time, remember that Antoine Winfield and Chris Cook are not going to be playing.

[Ice House]

Panthers are gonna beat that ass

[gimpy]

BOL to you IceHouse. Cam's either going to break some ankles, or he's going to get broken.

I might hit the prop @ over 6.5 rush attempts @ 5dimes before kick off. We'll see how I feel later.

[Ice House]

BOL to you IceHouse. Cam's either going to break some ankles, or he's going to get broken.

I might hit the prop @ over 6.5 rush attempts @ 5dimes before kick off. We'll see how I feel later.

If Vikings win this game Ponder is going have to have a huge game. Panthers will put 9 in the box and make the Vikings throw it.

[gimpy]

Care to wager some points on a straight up win, IceHouse?

[SportGTI]

Thanks for the input gimpy and Ice House;

I agree that the panthers will probably put 8 to 9 in the box to stop AP and if ponder is unable to throw the ball, then it might be a long day for the Vikes. However, I see this game closer to 50/50 and I'm getting +160 on the vikes' ML. I see such good value on them.

I could be wrong, but I think I might pull the trigger on them today.

[irlandais_noir]

On Vikes ML as well. Pass D + AP should be too much for the Panthers to handle.

Steve Smith cant bail them out every week #knahimsayin