1. 02-21-24 08:26 AM #1
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    Larry Bird

    Guys how good was he?
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  2. 02-21-24 08:28 AM #2
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    Well he is the best white guy who ever played

    so he might b top 100 …
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  3. 02-21-24 08:35 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Well he is the best white guy who ever played

    so he might b top 100 …
    Top 100?

    Don't let slayer kill the board. Bird is in the conversation for "Best Forward to ever play."

    If you break it down further, he's probably the best 3-man in NBA history. Combination of scoring/passing/rebounding.

    Some consider Lebron James to be a 3-man (if not a 2-man). After Lebron retires, people can debate Lebron vs Larry. That's how high Larry ranks on the All Time list.
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  4. 02-21-24 08:39 AM #4
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    Read the first line chuck

    this was my attempt at a joke …
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    And I still have better jokes than eddy
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  7. 02-21-24 08:48 AM #7
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    He was Incredible .
    Don’t know exactly where you put him on a list but it would certainly be closer to the top than the bottom.
    He made everyone around him better and he was great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Read the first line chuck

    this was my attempt at a joke …
    The WHITE GUY thing is another conversation. Point is that Larry transcends the color-barrier.

    NBA has had an amazing drought of American white-guys over the L30 years. FWIW, my three favorite white-guys from the L40 years = Larry, Mark Price and Jeff Hornacek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    The WHITE GUY thing is another conversation. Point is that Larry transcends the color-barrier.

    NBA has had an amazing drought of American white-guys over the L30 years. FWIW, my three favorite white-guys from the L40 years = Larry, Mark Price and Jeff Hornacek.
    Jeff Ruland was fun to watch but that more like 45-50 years. Usually started a bit slow but after he got smacked around his exposed skin was pink. Once he got pink, he got nasty as hell.lol. Mahorn fed off that attitude.
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  10. 02-21-24 09:08 AM #10
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    John stockton
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  11. 02-21-24 10:09 AM #11
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    I was not born when he played guys, but he was like a ballerina the way he use to skip by players judging by youtube clips
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  12. 02-21-24 10:17 AM #12
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    Best pure shooter I ever saw

    As Chucky stated , he belongs in the conversation for best forward ever
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  13. 02-21-24 10:47 AM #13
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    I thought this was a Larry Bird is dead thread. Whew.

    Larry Legend was insanely good in his prime and when his back wasn't killing him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by franz555 View Post
    Best pure shooter I ever saw

    As Chucky stated , he belongs in the conversation for best forward ever

    Best pure clutch shooter I ever saw. I don't think I ever saw him miss a shot when the game was on the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    The WHITE GUY thing is another conversation. Point is that Larry transcends the color-barrier.

    NBA has had an amazing drought of American white-guys over the L30 years. FWIW, my three favorite white-guys from the L40 years = Larry, Mark Price and Jeff Hornacek.
    So white people are not having kids?
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    23rd best of all time according to PER.
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  17. 02-21-24 11:13 AM #17
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    Dominated the 80's but would be nothing special now; he might, as Dennis Rodman said, be playing in Europe if he played today.
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  18. 02-21-24 11:38 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    So white people are not having kids?
    They are but the great white players have dried up. Last couple were Chris Mullin + John Stockton.

    Think about it. Who is the best American white player drafted later than 1990?
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  19. 02-21-24 12:04 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    They are but the great white players have dried up. Last couple were Chris Mullin + John Stockton.

    Think about it. Who is the best American white player drafted later than 1990?
    Tyler Herro? Gordon Hayward?
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    Just give me the damn ball and get the hell out of my way.
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  21. 02-21-24 12:51 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjsuax13 View Post
    Just give me the damn ball and get the hell out of my way.
    A lot of great Larry stories.

    He was playing the Xmas day game. Makes an early 3 in front of the opponent bench.

    Turns and faces the opponent bench on his way back. "Merry fukin Xmas."
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Tyler Herro? Gordon Hayward?
    In terms of FINANCIAL success, Yes. Those guys have done great.

    Think about my question. The answers are really pretty modest. Start with guys who at least made one All Star game.

    *People knock Christian Laettner. He was a pretty good pro.
    *JJ Redick had a pretty good career.
    *Kevin Love won a title. He's had a pretty lengthy career.

    Get my point? There's not a superstar on the list.
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  23. 02-21-24 12:54 PM #23
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    Larry Bird was amazing. But I never understand why people sleep on Rick Barry. He had game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyCover View Post
    Larry Bird was amazing. But I never understand why people sleep on Rick Barry. He had game.
    Very good, EZ. From a decade earlier. He had an excellent skill game.

    Also, Barry won an ABA title + an NBA title. Not an easy achievement. One small asterisk.*

    *Oakland Oaks won the title while Barry was injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    A lot of great Larry stories.

    He was playing the Xmas day game. Makes an early 3 in front of the opponent bench.

    Turns and faces the opponent bench on his way back. "Merry fukin Xmas."
    That’s funny. Larry the real deal.
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    https://www.basketball-reference.com...barryri01.html

    Outstanding player. EZ, here's another tagline that one has to attribute to Rick Barry.

    *If you're a horse fan, Rick Barry was very likely the greatest sire in NBA history.
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  27. 02-21-24 01:15 PM #27
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    Let's not forget the great Paul Makeski for the Bucks

    You youngsters never got to see his greatness
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  28. 02-21-24 01:21 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyCover View Post
    Larry Bird was amazing. But I never understand why people sleep on Rick Barry. He had game.
    Both Larry and Barry had elite games, but they also both would rip your heart out to win a game

    Score, defend, rebound, pass, get on the floor for loose balls, clutch, relentless

    All at an elite level

    Modern day players aren't familiar with this stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Top 100?

    Bird is in the conversation for "Best Forward to ever play."
    Forward?
    Wait a minute, Thom O. Rino (Attorney at Law) tells me he was a guard.
    No?
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  30. 02-21-24 01:40 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by getaloadoffatso View Post
    Both Larry and Barry had elite games, but they also both would rip your heart out to win a game

    Score, defend, rebound, pass, get on the floor for loose balls, clutch, relentless

    All at an elite level

    Modern day players aren't familiar with this stuff
    Very true. Spilled their guts to win a game. And if you gave them a late FT, they'd make it for sure.

    Also, Mokeski was quite good. Good shooter for a big-man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Very true. Spilled their guts to win a game. And if you gave them a late FT, they'd make it for sure.

    Also, Mokeski was quite good. Good shooter for a big-man.
    Mokeski was OK, but I was joking about him being elite

    I liked him because of his hair, the way he pulled his socks up high, and not being able to jump an inch off the ground
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    Made Dr. J cry.
    Reduced him to tears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getaloadoffatso View Post
    Mokeski was OK, but I was joking about him being elite

    I liked him because of his hair, the way he pulled his socks up high, and not being able to jump an inch off the ground
    My friend saw Mokeski hammered sitting on the curb. Guess he liked the bottle back in the day.
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