1. 01-07-12 12:14 AM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    really wouldnt take 20 people just one ref... calling a lot of fouls...


    i give up totals... impossible to hit
    wake up dude.

    And what if both teams went cold and couldnt score? Or what if they scored too much? They would wipe away obvious buckets for no reason?
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  2. 01-07-12 12:14 AM #37
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    So you all believe games are on the level across the board, start to finish, college and pro?

    FTR, I had no bet on this game.
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    unless they have magnets in the rim and ball to ensure no human error it is impossible to make a total go to exactly .5 point over the closing number.
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  4. 01-07-12 12:16 AM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindTheLock View Post
    unless they have magnets in the rim and ball to ensure no human error it is impossible to make a total go to exactly .5 point over the closing number.
    Must've just been a very sharp line.
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  5. 01-07-12 12:16 AM #40
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    No coincidences has mental issues. Just don't bother responding. His threads are useless and a waste of space. Don't even bother wasting time posting to his questions. He thinks they rigged the total to land on exactly 187
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  6. 01-07-12 12:17 AM #41
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    We've never read about point shaving or any other cheating on a basketball court, so I guess I should just take everything at face value and assume these situations are just a coincidence.
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  7. 01-07-12 12:17 AM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan707 View Post
    wake up dude. And what if both teams went cold and couldnt score? Or what if they scored too much? They would wipe away obvious buckets for no reason?

    im not saying it was fixed just saying to lta all it takes 1 ref not 20 people
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  8. 01-07-12 12:17 AM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamite140 View Post
    He thinks nba totals are always rigged in the last minute of game. Of course if it didn't land on that number... then he won't comment on it.

    Typical delusional no coincidences
    This talk is pretty much delusional, I have to admit.
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  9. 01-07-12 12:18 AM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Must've just been a very sharp line.
    Even if the refs gave the players a few FT's. Who's to say he makes them? The game didn't end in controversy. The warriors were within striking distance so they fouled to make an attempt to get back in the game. This game wasn't fixed. I do believe there are fixes in all sports, but this wasn't one of them. It was purely the irony of your handle which is to say that this was a coincidence.
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  10. 01-07-12 12:19 AM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Must've just been a very sharp line.



    How often do we see "very sharp lines".

    Dude we watch games all day every day. What about the 30 games today that were not so sharp?

    Its the law of probability. This is going to happen once in a while.

    A sharp line does not equate to a rig job.
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  11. 01-07-12 12:19 AM #46
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    and regards to the wiping away buckets... fouls away from the ball, charges, all can take points down
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  12. 01-07-12 12:19 AM #47
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    I cant believe ya'll dont think point shaving doesnt exist. It does every freakin day in every sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan707 View Post
    This talk is pretty much delusional, I have to admit.
    Is there such thing as point shaving and fixing in basketball?

    Yes or no question.
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  14. 01-07-12 12:20 AM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan707 View Post



    How often do we see "very sharp lines".

    Dude we watch games all day every day. What about the 30 games today that were not so sharp?

    Its the law of probability. This is going to happen once in a while.

    A sharp line does not equate to a rig job.
    I'd be a lot less suspicious if this game didn't have 74 points in the first half, and the over didn't get hit right at the last minute, and it didn't just happen to end up right in the middle of the total spread.
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  15. 01-07-12 12:21 AM #50
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    Im believe as much as 50% of games played are predetermined on a given day. Side and total
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    Quote Originally Posted by dozer View Post
    I cant believe ya'll dont think point shaving doesnt exist. It does every freakin day in every sport.



    they dont realize all it takes is one max 2 people... look at our boy timmy
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    I know the way a game plays out can look fishy at times...however I think this is more of a coincidence then the game itself being rigged...I think what happened here is the oddsmakers nailed the total...granted they probably didn't anticipate such a low scoring first half and a pretty high scoring 2nd but at the end of the day chalk up a win for the oddsmakers here...many NBA games looked rigged but I highly doubt any or a very very very small % of them really are...
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    If anyone answers no, they def rode the short bus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dozer View Post
    Im believe as much as 50% of games played are predetermined on a given day. Side and total
    Not sure if I'd say it's that high, but to dismiss the idea as nothing more than "sharp" lines is ridiculously naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djstucky View Post
    I know the way a game plays out can look fishy at times...however I think this is more of a coincidence then the game itself being rigged...I think what happened here is the oddsmakers nailed the total...granted they probably didn't anticipate such a low scoring first half and a pretty high scoring 2nd but at the end of the day chalk up a win for the oddsmakers here...many NBA games looked rigged but I highly doubt any or a very very very small % of them really are...
    You're giving the oddsmakers an awful lot of credit.
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  21. 01-07-12 12:24 AM #56
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    NC is right, this game was rigged... Kobe rigged it with 40 points!
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Is there such thing as point shaving and fixing in basketball?

    Yes or no question.
    I have no evidence to support that it still happens in NBA. To say Yes would be strictly speculatory. I don't have enough information.

    What I do know is that it would be impossible to ensure such a "middleage". There would be no margin for error. That would take a massive conspiracy among both teams, all coaches, and all refs.

    You said earlier you though this was rigged for some whale to slam the middle.

    Preposterous thinking.
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  23. 01-07-12 12:26 AM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I'd be a lot less suspicious if this game didn't have 74 points in the first half, and the over didn't get hit right at the last minute, and it didn't just happen to end up right in the middle of the total spread.
    You need to step back and realize what you are saying though. You are implying a massive conspiracy.
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    I am certain that some sporting events are fixed, but if you watched this game it didn't seem like this was one of them. I know for a fact a lot of soccer matches are fixed, and I bet totals on them all the time. You can tell when a team is, "taking the day off." I know I've felt a lot of NBA games were fixed, but I bet on this one and I lost fair and square in my opinion.
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  25. 01-07-12 12:26 AM #60
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    Why fix a total?

    Much easier to fix a side...
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    It wasn't fixed.
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  27. 01-07-12 12:29 AM #62
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    No Coincidences is the most delusional poster on this site.


    He thinks everything is fixed. Yea... some whale went to middle this by hoping it lands on exactly 187


    Anyone find it funny how his screenname is no coincidences? He made this username b/c he thinks games are rigged and its no coincidence of that
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  28. 01-07-12 12:32 AM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    Why fix a total?

    Much easier to fix a side...
    Yes. Plus limits are much higher for sides.

    Read "Gaming the Game". Donaghy was fixing sides for this very reason.
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  29. 01-07-12 12:34 AM #64
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    Jan 06, 2012 07:36:12 PM4 Team Parlay #240170205
    Basketball - NBA First Halfs (1H) Point Spread
    (823) Golden State Warriors +6 (-105) Jan 06/12@07:35p

    Final Scores
    Golden State Warriors 39
    Los Angeles Lakers 35


    Basketball - NBA First Halfs (1H) Point Spread
    (822) Phoenix Suns +1 (-105) Jan 06/12@07:35p

    Final Scores
    Portland Trail Blazers 34
    Phoenix Suns 49


    Basketball - NBA Lines (Game) Total
    (821) Portland Trail Blazers vs. (822) Phoenix Suns
    Under 196 (-105) Jan 06/12@07:35p

    Final Scores
    Portland Trail Blazers 72
    Phoenix Suns 97


    Basketball - NBA Lines (Game) Total
    (823) Golden State Warriors vs. (824) Los Angeles Lakers
    Over 186 Jan 06/12@07:35p

    Final Scores
    Golden State Warriors 88
    Los Angeles Lakers 94


    Outcome: Win
    Date settled: Jan 06, 2012 10:06:54 PM


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  30. 01-07-12 12:38 AM #65
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    that 94 88 isn't over 186 and wasn't the final of the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrigadierPudding View Post
    Yes. Plus limits are much higher for sides.

    Read "Gaming the Game". Donaghy was fixing sides for this very reason.
    I don't doubt for a second that more sides are fixed than totals. That goes without saying.

    To assume no totals are fixed, though, to me seems incredibly naive.

    Was this an actual example? I don't know. Only reason this caught my eye was because my boy dozer was on it. I had no bet on the game. I smelled something fishy with about 4 minutes left. I've seen enough NBA to know how "exact" it can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    that 94 88 isn't over 186 and wasn't the final of the game
    You're right but thats what my slip read in weak ass Bovada when i copy/pasted it. it's updated in there now.

    <a href="http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/BMRadio/?action=view&amp;current=Screenshot2012-01-06at105313PM.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a33/BMRadio/Screenshot2012-01-06at105313PM.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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  33. 01-07-12 12:58 AM #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I've seen enough NBA to know how "exact" it can get.
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    just having one person in on something, gives that side a huge edge

    It's funny how people here think everybody in the stadium has to be handed scripts for a game to be rigged
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  35. 01-07-12 02:01 AM #70
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    Cant believe I hit this over. Gave up on my ticket after the 1H. Shit this feels gd boys
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