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    F1 Russian GP - 8.00am ET Sunday

    Friday practice at 4.00am and 8.00am ET
    Saturday P3 5.00am & Quali 8.00am
    Sunday Race 8.00am



    Bit of a boring track that is tough to pass on and also does not wear tires so everyone ends up on same strategy.

    Mercedes have won every race here. It's considered a power track. which I think Merc still hold an advantage in, and the corners are kind of simple and square. Which is a bit like China where Merc won last. And unlike Australia and Bahrain with high speed sweepers that saw Ferrari handle tire wear much better. It's also cooler here, again like in China, which is thought to help Mercedes against Ferrari.

    Pundits are saying this in Bottas best track over last few years in the Williams and he knows he needs to win to stop the slide into official #2 team driver so he might be a decent chance to beat Hamilton. Especially at 9/1 odds.

    Not sure I agree with that but those odds do make it tempting to take the shot.

    Williams as a team has killed it here... but is it the car or has it been Bottas? If they had someone a bit younger than Massa as their lead driver I'd be thinking they might beat the Red Bulls this weekend. Anyway, keep them safe as they could be good. Young Lance Stroll has been kind of awful so far but I can see Williams trying to help his confidence with a shot at fast lap if the opportunity arises and the car has it in it.

    Speaking of fast lap... with the lack of tyre strategy from the smooth track here it kind of takes away the value from fast lap longshots. I'm going to take Massa and Stroll small for fast lap now just in case they really shine in practice and odds drop but honestly dont really see anyone but the top 4 taking it here without some sort of late incident that sees someone switch to Ultra Softs in the final laps.

    Kyvatt has been better than Sainz in last 2 GPs in the Torro Rosso but books still have his odds at about double those of his team mate. RS1X pointed out that there could be some value to be found from him at his home GP and I agree. I'm a bit worried the Merc engined Force India might be a bit fast for them to jump on him top 10 +120 yet but am thinking about it depending how practice pans out.


    So far I've taken;

    Fastest in P1 - Hamilton +110

    Fastest Lap - Stroll 100/1, Massa 40/1


    Current 5Dimes Odds;

    Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix

    Lewis Hamilton -120
    Sebastian Vettel +150
    Valtteri Bottas +750
    Kimi Raikkonen +1600
    Max Verstappen +4000
    Daniel Ricciardo +4000
    Felipe Massa +25000
    Sergio Perez +50000
    Carlos Sainz +50000
    Daniil Kvyat +100000
    Esteban Ocon +100000
    Lance Stroll +100000
    Nico Hulkenberg +100000
    Romain Grosjean +100000
    Kevin Magnussen +150000
    Jolyon Palmer +200000
    Fernando Alonso +200000
    Stoffel Vandoorne +250000
    Marcus Ericsson +300000
    Pascal Wehrlein +300000


    Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix - Pole Position Winner

    Lewis Hamilton -185
    Valtteri Bottas +300
    Sebastian Vettel +350
    Kimi Raikkonen +1600
    Max Verstappen +5000
    Daniel Ricciardo +5000
    Felipe Massa +25000
    Sergio Perez +50000
    Carlos Sainz +50000
    Daniil Kvyat +100000
    Esteban Ocon +100000
    Lance Stroll +100000
    Nico Hulkenberg +100000
    Romain Grosjean +100000
    Kevin Magnussen +200000
    Fernando Alonso +200000
    Jolyon Palmer +250000
    Stoffel Vandoorne +300000
    Marcus Ericsson +300000
    Pascal Wehrlein +300000


    Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix - Top 3 Finish

    Lewis Hamilton -700
    Sebastian Vettel -600
    Valtteri Bottas -200
    Kimi Raikkonen +150
    Max Verstappen +350
    Daniel Ricciardo +350
    Felipe Massa +2000
    Carlos Sainz +5000
    Sergio Perez +6600
    Nico Hulkenberg +10000
    Lance Stroll +15000
    Romain Grosjean +15000
    Daniil Kvyat +20000
    Esteban Ocon +20000
    Kevin Magnussen +25000
    Jolyon Palmer +50000
    Fernando Alonso +50000
    Stoffel Vandoorne +100000
    Marcus Ericsson +100000
    Pascal Wehrlein +100000


    Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix - Top 6 Finish

    Lewis Hamilton -800
    Sebastian Vettel -700
    Valtteri Bottas -600
    Kimi Raikkonen -500
    Max Verstappen -350
    Daniel Ricciardo -300
    Felipe Massa -225
    Sergio Perez +400
    Carlos Sainz +500
    Romain Grosjean +500
    Nico Hulkenberg +600
    Daniil Kvyat +800
    Esteban Ocon +800
    Lance Stroll +800
    Kevin Magnussen +1000
    Jolyon Palmer +1600
    Fernando Alonso +1600
    Stoffel Vandoorne +3300
    Marcus Ericsson +5000
    Pascal Wehrlein +5000


    Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix - Top 10 Finish

    Lewis Hamilton -1000
    Sebastian Vettel -900
    Valtteri Bottas -800
    Kimi Raikkonen -700
    Max Verstappen -500
    Daniel Ricciardo -500
    Felipe Massa -350
    Sergio Perez -200
    Carlos Sainz -185
    Nico Hulkenberg +100
    Romain Grosjean +100
    Esteban Ocon +110
    Lance Stroll +110
    Daniil Kvyat +120
    Kevin Magnussen +135
    Fernando Alonso +250
    Jolyon Palmer +300
    Stoffel Vandoorne +800
    Marcus Ericsson +2000
    Pascal Wehrlein +2000


    Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix - Fastest Lap

    Lewis Hamilton +125
    Sebastian Vettel +275
    Valtteri Bottas +400
    Kimi Raikkonen +700
    Daniel Ricciardo +1600
    Max Verstappen +1600
    Felipe Massa +4000
    Carlos Sainz +5000
    Sergio Perez +5000
    Daniil Kvyat +10000
    Esteban Ocon +10000
    Lance Stroll +10000
    Nico Hulkenberg +10000
    Fernando Alonso +15000
    Romain Grosjean +15000
    Kevin Magnussen +20000
    Jolyon Palmer +30000
    Stoffel Vandoorne +50000
    Marcus Ericsson +50000
    Pascal Wehrlein +50000
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    Any thoughts on 1st retirement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    Any thoughts on 1st retirement?
    I don't think so Mike. Although come to think of it 3 Renault engined cars have had fuel pressure issues during practice, so maybe one of them. But not for me.

    Ferrari looking very very strong all through practice. Be interesting to see if Mercedes can dial it up for qualifying about to start.

    Not really seeing anything that is grabbing me value wise so far. Hopefully something crazy happens in quali and opens up opportunities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I don't think so Mike. Although come to think of it 3 Renault engined cars have had fuel pressure issues during practice, so maybe one of them. But not for me.

    Ferrari looking very very strong all through practice. Be interesting to see if Mercedes can dial it up for qualifying about to start.

    Not really seeing anything that is grabbing me value wise so far. Hopefully something crazy happens in quali and opens up opportunities.
    ok thanks

    I'll wait and see what u think.

    Might throw out a few plays cause I'll def get to watch it.

    Do they let open parlay top fav winners in F1?

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    I don't think so but can't recall for sure. I'm not allowed to do open parlays anymore.

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    Thanks.

    Didnt think they offered them as parlayable, but couldn't remember

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    So any value in this? FL looks like less odds than usual even. Dan R any chance at it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    So any value in this? FL looks like less odds than usual even. Dan R any chance at it?
    I dunno Mike. Looks like Vettel should win but worse odds than Lewis has been seem a bit much.

    Maybe Bottas worth a shot at the odds but dont really think he'll win.

    The top 4 fast lap odds are about right. Only crazy luck (good or bad) will see someone else take it I think. As usual maybe a small advantage in Kimi but as we talked about last race, Bottas seemed keen to steal it last lap too. Odds shitty.

    After Ferrari, Merc, Red Bull and Massa take the top 7 finish spots it's a lottery between at least 7 others for the final top 10 spots and I dont see any value in anyone in particular.

    There is usually a safety car here.

    Not sure who will retire first.

    90 mins still to decide but might just add a few bucks on some more of the fast lap longshots and just enjoy the race I think.

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    Thanks as always for the much needed input.

    ill probably ghow out 1-2 fast laps and just enjoy. Maybe Kimi and dan R

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    Not really much of interest in H2Hs either


    Race Matchups - Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom - Sochi, Russia - NBCSN

    Sun 4/30 7701 Sebastian Vettel -385
    8:00AM 7702 Kimi Raikkonen +295

    Sun 4/30 7703 Kimi Raikkonen -140
    8:00AM 7704 Lewis Hamilton +110

    Sun 4/30 7705 Lewis Hamilton -165
    8:00AM 7706 Valtteri Bottas +135

    Sun 4/30 7707 Felipe Massa -300
    8:00AM 7708 Sergio Perez +240

    Sun 4/30 7709 Daniel Ricciardo -140
    8:00AM 7710 Max Verstappen +110

    Sun 4/30 7711 Nico Hulkenberg -120
    8:00AM 7712 Esteban Ocon -110

    Sun 4/30 7713 Carlos Sainz -125
    8:00AM 7714 Daniil Kvyat -105

    Sun 4/30 7715 Fernando Alonso +105
    8:00AM 7716 Jolyon Palmer -135

    Sun 4/30 7717 Lance Stroll -165
    8:00AM 7718 Kevin Magnussen +135

    Sun 4/30 7719 Pascal Wehrlein -240
    8:00AM 7720 Marcus Ericsson +180

    Sun 4/30 7721 Daniil Kvyat -150
    8:00AM 7722 Kevin Magnussen +120

    Sun 4/30 7723 Pascal Wehrlein -135
    8:00AM 7724 Stoffel Vandoorne +105

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    Bottas (+400)
    Dan R (+3300)

    for FL, just to make it interesting

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    GL Mike

    Have Dan too

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    U 2 buddy, thanks for all the insight

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