1. 06-25-12 09:49 AM #1
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    KENTUCKY--5mike5

    Alright boys were off to KENTUCKY for only the 2nd CUP race on this track...not as much to go off of this week with just 1 race to go off of, but it is a 1.5 mile oval, so other 1.5 mile track stats can be used as another slight factor as well for me...

    ALL 3 series will be in Kentucky this weekend for a big triple-header of races fron thursday-saturday, ALL NIGHT RACES!

    KENTUCKY is a 1.5 mile tri-oval...banking is 14 degress in all turns, 8 degrees on the frontstretch and 4 degrees on the back...frontstretch is 1,662 feet long, and back is 1,600 feet long, track has been around since 200, and nationwide and truck series have been running here before CUP got its 1st race last summer..

    boys its been just an absolute cash cow this season, and been on fire last month especially...as always, all the regular guys on the thread make it possible to have such a great season and their input makes this thread what it is every week and as always i much appreciate it, and im sure every1 does..every1 sharing opinions/input every week is essential to every1

    im watching last seasons race today and getting out my notebooks and the thin notebook i have on KENTUCKY

    GOODLUCK to everybody this week, and lets keep making big money!!!

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  2. 06-25-12 09:54 AM #2
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    SPRINT CUP SCHEDULE:

    PRACTICES: FRIDAY 11:30am and 1:30 pm (both on speed channel)

    QUALIFYING: FRIDAY at 5pm (speed channel)

    RACE: SATURDAY NIGHT at 6:30pm on TNT

    **all times are ET

    **notice practice times....track conditions at practice wont be anywhere close to what they will be for the race..
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  3. 06-25-12 09:56 AM #3
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    NATIONWIDE SCHEDULE:

    PRACTICES    : 6:30pm thursday and 9am friday (friday practice airing on speed channel)

    QUALIFYING: 3:30pm friday

    RACE: FRIDAY night at 7pm on ESPN2

    **all times are ET
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  4. 06-25-12 09:57 AM #4
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    TRUCK SERIES race will be THURSDAY night at 7:30pm (SPEED channel)
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  5. 06-25-12 09:58 AM #5
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    I watched the Kentucky race this morning what I noticed was long runs some of the drivers wouldn't of made it untill the late cautions also the race starts in daylight finishes in darkness
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  6. 06-25-12 09:58 AM #6
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    Kyle and Jimmie will be factors in my opinion
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  7. 06-25-12 09:59 AM #7
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    too early to tell for me...ill have a much better idea once i finish up all my stuff and personal notebook study

    not basing it off just last years race thats for sure...teams will have alot more data now and things wil lbe totally different imo

    probably actually go up for the race
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  8. 06-25-12 10:02 AM #8
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    Obviously 48-18 maybe adding brad k at this early stage but too early to tell
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    u like the #48???



    yeah i agree, way too early for me to make any early leans at this point...

    no SURE bets off the bat for me yet
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  10. 06-25-12 10:06 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    u like the #48???



    yeah way too early for me to make any early leans at this point...definatley no SURE things off the bat for me
    As always but what I did notice was he didn't quite have the speed to get to the front in last years race
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  11. 06-25-12 10:07 AM #11
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    yeah but he will be there

    teams have tons more data after that race, set-ups will be much better for lot of teams this time around
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  12. 06-25-12 10:21 AM #12
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    KYLE hasnt seen inside of a top 10 finish on a 1.5 track since he won at kentucky last year, besides at charlotte races

    not to mention his car troubles latley

    just cant be sure ill bet him early yet

    overall tough week boys, but we will get there
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  13. 06-25-12 10:46 AM #13
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    Thought Kyle ran much better this week
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  14. 06-25-12 10:54 AM #14
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    well he did but his 1.5 mile finishes have been VERY sub-par outside of charlotte races..and really 2 tracks are totally different...not 1 finish inside top 10 since last season when he won here at kentucky besides those
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  15. 06-25-12 11:07 AM #15
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    I think the 18 bunch Has a good run. Newman finished well here last year but done betting him til they make a crew chief change
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    yeah i stopped betting newman years ago

    when i first starting getting into nascar was when he was a stud in the #12, took me longer than it should have to wake up after the great run he had those years

    when he does win, its rarely becuase he has the car, its usually luck or milegae, not cause he out-races any1
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    Carl Edwards is the newest driver thats always over valued odds wise, and just never wins races anymore

    didnt take me as long to wake up and stop betting him to win thankfully
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  18. 06-25-12 11:20 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post


    yeah i stopped betting newman years ago

    when i first starting getting into nascar was when he was a stud in the #12, took me longer than it should have to wake up after the great run he had those years

    when he does win, its rarely becuase he has the car, its usually luck or milegae, not cause he out-races any1

    Needs a crew chief change in worst way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Needs a crew chief change in worst way
    yeah i totally agree

    u a big newman fan im guessing?
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  20. 06-25-12 11:48 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    yeah i totally agree

    u a big newman fan im guessing?

    Sadly yes it's soooo frustrating
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    frustrating, but crew chief change would get him going again...gotta love the equipment hes in now too, plus still fairly new team

    *i though i remember seeing unusal 3 of newman picks to win from u in weekly picks game...hahah

    well im #18 fan, so every1 hates my guy.... and i also like denny Hamlin alot

    newman was 1st driver i ever won a nascar bet to win a race with actually!....and 1st driver i realy started to follow and like
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  22. 06-25-12 11:59 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    frustrating, but crew chief change would get him going again...gotta love the equipment hes in now too, plus still fairly new team

    *i though i remember seeing unusal 3 of newman picks to win from u in weekly picks game...hahah

    well im #18 fan, so every1 hates my guy.... and i also like denny Hamlin alot

    newman was 1st driver i ever won a nascar bet to win a race with actually!....and 1st driver i realy started to follow and like

    liked kasey early too, but got sick and tired of hearing how hot he was by my girlfriend every weekend..lol

    Think it's just a matter of time til change made. Hoping anyways.

    Cant stand Kahne
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    i really dont route against any1 much

    guess its the gambler in me saying i might need to bet on this bastard, so cant hate any of them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    i really dont route against any1 much

    guess its the gambler in me saying i might need to bet on this bastard, so cant hate any of them...
    I still get him on occasion just don't care for him
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  25. 06-25-12 01:06 PM #25
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    If anyone wants to watch a full race replay of last yrs Kentucky race you tube has it search for 2011 Kentucky NASCAR race
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    If anyone wants to watch a full race replay of last yrs Kentucky race you tube has it search for 2011 Kentucky NASCAR race
    Thanks Shaun




    I think one thing to consider this week is how good Joe Gibbs Nationwide team has always been on this track, and how Logano has dominated the race several times. (Kyle won it last year and Logano the 3 years before that in a row)
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    Looking to back Logano for the nationwide race
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    i would pick logano at any track right now in nationwide

    won 4 of last 5 races he has been in, he is pretty much automatic play anywhere right now

    hes the easy pick, who else has a shot thats not under +400 the tough thing
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    Just looking thru last yrs nationwide race how many cup drivers gonna be racing

    Harvick.brad k.kasey k.and Kyle Busch all were in it
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    already watched it for fun

    rare im not watching 12-16 hours of tape for upcoming track, so i dont know what to do with my time during the day...

    considering flying to play some poker somewhere and then going to the nationwide/cup races....pretty damn awsome there last season
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    Yeah very boring day last week of vacation no nba to watch
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    I like Logano a lot as a matchup pick in the cup race... He has a ton of experience on the track, and he's been on fire lately.

    He finished 10th at Sonoma, and let's face it... road races are not his specialty. There's been speculation about whether or not he'll be back in the 20 next year (although a lot died down after he won at Pocono.) He's just looked focused lately, and barring a wreck or engine problem, I can't see him having a bad race. I don't know that he wins, but I plan on loading up on him in matchups and throwing some on him to win the race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanLeafOfBets View Post
    I like Logano a lot as a matchup pick in the cup race... He has a ton of experience on the track, and he's been on fire lately.

    He finished 10th at Sonoma, and let's face it... road races are not his specialty. There's been speculation about whether or not he'll be back in the 20 next year (although a lot died down after he won at Pocono.) He's just looked focused lately, and barring a wreck or engine problem, I can't see him having a bad race. I don't know that he wins, but I plan on loading up on him in matchups and throwing some on him to win the race.

    Rumors started again yesterday as there was a report Kenseth had talks with Gibbs and Penske last week
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    Looking to back Logano for the nationwide race
    Beware, he is in the #20. Hamlin has the #18 car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Rumors started again yesterday as there was a report Kenseth had talks with Gibbs and Penske last week
    Unreal... would be interesting. Logano's my dude so hope he stays at Gibbs.
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