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    belmont/churchil limited plays contest

    think this is a good format so get it started



    starts 6/3


    belmont (7/12) churchill (6/27).. end dates

    30 races total combined (20 race max churchill)..

    2 races/day max combined..

    $4-$8 total race (win place bet, win only, NO JUST PLACE BET.. as long as it's between that amount )

    2 horses per race ok (but total bets $4-$8)

    $2 min base bet (no $1)

    must specify no slop for plays not to count on an off track (good ok)

    turf races only good if run on the turf..

    no intentionally playing off the turf races..

    no odds watching.. plays in at least a half hour before post time

    everybody tallies their own... including roi after 5 plays

    ((5)) 36/32..88.. CO 39.. CHP 2

    please boldface this so easy to find scores

    through 5 races.. 36 invest/32 return.. roi 88.. cumu odds 39 *.. churchill plays (if made)

    *cumulative odds so we get some idea what prices you've been going after.. if you play 2 horses average them ..ex 4-1 and 10-1 odds for that race =7



    if you don't think you can participate enough post anyway. .to me the big part of this is giving people the opportunity to post their best bets rather than who wins the contest..just keep track of what you do as in above example
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    the response is overwhelming anybody want to do this in it's current form


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    I will be doing this even if it's just me.. hopefully a few others will participate.. starts wednesday

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    Lol I like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Lol I like it

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    good.. hopefully we get at least a few more.. opening day fast approaching

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    Tell me about it

    gonna be a great meet

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    yeah going to give it a look tomorrow.. have a hunch finding a best bet (or two) will be challenging

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    ok.. I'll get it started early (know a day ahead lol)

    belmont R7

    #4 bronze lion (10-1) 4W
    #7 brunate (20-1) 2WP

    no slop either


    a horse can be used by more than one person.. don't want to prevent someone from taking a horse they would have played

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    Wednesday 03June

    Belmont
    R4 #7 Moneymeister $4w
    R7 #9 Lorenzen $4w

    Curious, I read that these races are on dirt. Is that okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrell74 View Post
    Wednesday 03June

    Belmont
    R4 #7 Moneymeister $4w
    R7 #9 Lorenzen $4w

    Curious, I read that these races are on dirt. Is that okay?
    yes darrell..only thing is if you don't want them to count on an off track (slop or mud) then just put "no slop"

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    I’ll be in also. Just a clarification question. We can bet 2 horses per race and 2 races a day, so we can technically play up to 4 horses a day as long as we stay within the $4 minimum $8 maximum total bet per race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wabashwonders View Post
    I’ll be in also. Just a clarification question. We can bet 2 horses per race and 2 races a day, so we can technically play up to 4 horses a day as long as we stay within the $4 minimum $8 maximum total bet per race?
    correct ..just keep in mind the 30 race limit for the duration of the contest..maybe you pass on something you're middle of the road about to wait for a better play..admittedly for me that's tough to do because it's usually a gray area decision but that's part of what makes it challenging

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    correct ..just keep in mind the 30 race limit for the duration of the contest..maybe you pass on something you're middle of the road about to wait for a better play..admittedly for me that's tough to do because it's usually a gray area decision but that's part of what makes it challenging
    Thanks. Not something I would do much if at all, just wanted to be sure I understood correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wabashwonders View Post
    Thanks. Not something I would do much if at all, just wanted to be sure I understood correctly.

    no problem..glad you're aboard

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    no need to update every day if you can't..every 3 -5 races is fine..would like it shown in boldface like the example in post 1..this way easy to find people's scores..thank you

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    Form on the way here I'm in too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Form on the way here I'm in too.

    super

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    Belmont race 4...#3 Business Cycle $4WP(no slop)


    Belmont race 8...#5 Arthur Kitt $4WP(turf only)

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    Bel R3 #2- 4XX R10 #6- 2XX #11- 2XX. Bol to all off to OTB.

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    30 minutes prior to the start of the day, or for each race, JBEX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellymancan View Post
    30 minutes prior to the start of the day, or for each race, JBEX?
    Think each race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Think each race.
    Ok, thanks.

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    Bareeqa is scheduled to run today in Race 6 at Belmont.
    4win 4 place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellymancan View Post
    30 minutes prior to the start of the day, or for each race, JBEX?
    race jelly

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    also remember guys if you don't want your plays to count on a sloppy track put "no slop"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    race jelly
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    ok.. I'll get it started early (know a day ahead lol)

    belmont R7

    #4 bronze lion (10-1) 4W.. 4th @ 9-1
    #7 brunate (20-1) 2WP... 5th @ 77-1 (13 horse field)

    no slop either


    a horse can be used by more than one person.. don't want to prevent someone from taking a horse they would have played
    ((1)) 8/0..00..CO 43*..CHP 0**


    that 77-1 going to do a number on my avg odds lol

    *9+77/2 =43 (cumulative odds) avg because 2 horses

    ** not necessary to do churchill plays (CHP) if you don't make any.. just putting it up as a reminder

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    ​0-2 -$8

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrell74 View Post
    ​0-2 -$8

    this way would be better darrell..at the end of the contest winner will be decided by roi so need to know risk/return..
    (I should have stated this in rules)
    you played 2 races so below would be good..other stuff like I have in mine not necessary unless you play churchill which I've made a 20 race maximum

    ((2)) 8/0

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    (3) 8/9.40 Not sure what else to do here JBEX

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    (3) 8/9.40 Not sure what else to do here JBEX

    2 races you played

    R3 4.70/2.60 4XX (assuming that's WP) 14.60
    R10 4.20 place 2XX.. 4.20
    lost other 2XX

    ((2)) 16/18.80..117 (meaning +17% but just express like that.. 117)... CHP 0
    18.80/16 =1.17 then just eliminate the decimal 117

    ((2)) 16/18.80..117..CHP 0



    ((2)) because it's by races and not plays

    rest of the stuff (cumulative odds and churchill plays) don't worry about unless you're regularly playing churchill (CHP) for contest plays.. 20 race max there


    if I did that wrong let me know but looks like you invested 16 over the 2 races and got back 18.80

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    belmont R10 #1 towering gaze (6-1) 3WP
    churchill R9 #8 greenback (6-1) 3WP.. no slop

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    2 races you played

    R3 4.70/2.60 4XX (assuming that's WP) 14.60
    R10 4.20 place 2XX.. 4.20
    lost other 2XX

    ((2)) 16/18.80..117 (meaning +17% but just express like that.. 117)... CHP 0
    18.80/16 =1.17 then just eliminate the decimal 117

    ((2)) 16/18.80..117..CHP 0



    ((2)) because it's by races and not plays

    rest of the stuff (cumulative odds and churchill plays) don't worry about unless you're regularly playing churchill (CHP) for contest plays.. 20 race max there


    if I did that wrong let me know but looks like you invested 16 over the 2 races and got back 18.80
    Not what I did. Won't write picks like that anymore, way I did it when working for the book in the 90's. R3 #2 $4 win 4.70 +9.40 R10 #6 $2 Win #11 $2Win. Out. (2) 8/9.40 Is this correct.
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    BEL R1 #5 $2win $2 place R2 #14 $2 Win $2 place. Bet $8. Bol to all heading to OTB to "bombs away".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Not what I did. Won't write picks like that anymore, way I did it when working for the book in the 90's. R3 #2 $4 win 4.70 +9.40 R10 #6 $2 Win #11 $2Win. Out. (2) 8/9.40 Is this correct.

    gotcha.. yes that's correct

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