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    Betting The Ponies - Preakness Stakes

    Preakness is Saturday and its chalk city. EASY MONEY TO BE MADE.

    INFO: Trainer Todd Pletcher pulled the same move he did last year to screw over California Chrome's Triple Crown chances. Pletcher pulled his four horses out of the Preakness Stakes in order to rest them for better chances at Belmont Stakes.

    Preakness is left with only 8 horses racing, a very small field - the smallest in 15 years.

    American Pharoah got stuck with a shit draw and has the inside lane which is bad for horses, a horse hasn't won in the 1 position in like 30 years or so.

    BUT Pharoah WILL win this race for a couple reasons:
    1) The sport needs him to win so there is hype for Belmont and Triple Crown potential.
    2) Pharoah ran 29ft further than Firing Line and 69 feet further than Dortmund and STILL won the Kentucky Derby. This time he won't have the chance to take the long way since he's on the inside.
    3) Pharoah is the only mudder of the bunch, and has won in a mud race before, and forecast calls for at least 30% chance of rain in Baltimore on Saturday.

    Firing Line was leading the Derby down the stretch and the Preakness is a bit shorter so he will do great.

    Dortmund took the lead first and foremost in Churchill and could also benefit from the shorter distance.

    These three horses are a shoe-in to make up the top three, but odds on each to Show probably won't be great.

    Can anyone take a stab at the odds for Trifecta Key for American Pharoah to win and then Dortmund and Firing Line to make up 2nd & 3rd in any order?????
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    If you know anything about horse racing picking three horses to hit the trifecta is very very difficult… Horseracing is always the unexpected and that is why everybody goes home broke daily

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    The top four will be American Pharoah, Dortmund, Firing Line, and Divining Rod

    I'm taking a shot at Dortmund and Firing Line on top. The only other horse I'd consider underneath would be Danzig Moon, but hey

    2-1-8-7 sounds good to me

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    The 5 just broke his maiden in a MSW for 54k and they put him straight in a g1, I have to bet him

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    The top four will be American Pharoah, Dortmund, Firing Line, and Divining Rod

    I'm taking a shot at Dortmund and Firing Line on top. The only other horse I'd consider underneath would be Danzig Moon, but hey

    2-1-8-7 sounds good to me
    I like your thinking but problem is the trainer of American Pharoah also trains Dortmund. Does he really wanna screw his own chances of tripcrown?

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    forget the trifecta's. go for the superfecta and play it like this: 1,8/1,2,8/1,2,8/w all/ and 1,8/1,2,8/w all/1,2,8 and hope to get a longshot to finish 3rd. otherwise you'll end up with chump change for a payout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    forget the trifecta's. go for the superfecta and play it like this: 1,8/1,2,8/1,2,8/w all/ and 1,8/1,2,8/w all/1,2,8 and hope to get a longshot to finish 3rd. otherwise you'll end up with chump change for a payout.
    Sorry I'm a little slow right now could u try to explain that better?

    Exhausted at gym, not a lot of blood in my brain

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    sportbet has that prop actually

    I like the no to be honest

    Preakness Stakes - Trifecta Box - Pimlico Race Course - Baltimore, MD
    8 horse field must run for action




    Sat 5/16 157 Am.Pharoah/Dortmund/FiringLine tri-box +325

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    horse racing is so degenerate how do you watch/bet without feeling like a full blown loser.

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    DOM Toreto Given that we;re looking at a 7 horse field those trifectas will be around 20 dollars for a dollar with those 3 on top.
    If you can get a bomb to run 3rd or 4th, take a shot at keying the superfecta. Using the horse that recently ran at Pimlico
    is usually a good idea. Chances are the same 3 will NOT run 1-2-3 again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    sportbet has that prop actually

    I like the no to be honest

    Preakness Stakes - Trifecta Box - Pimlico Race Course - Baltimore, MD
    8 horse field must run for action




    Sat 5/16 157 Am.Pharoah/Dortmund/FiringLine tri-box +325
    Not to bad of a price, great value. Although i think Firing Line ran his best race at churchill and will miss the board in Preakness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffie View Post
    Not to bad of a price, great value. Although i think Firing Line ran his best race at churchill and will miss the board in Preakness.
    There is no value whatsoever, it is equivalent to a $2 TRIPLE paying $8.50!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    There is no value whatsoever, it is equivalent to a $2 TRIPLE paying $8.50!
    True, but i mean have u seen the field or follow horse racing? Its literally AP Dortmund Firing line and then a couple gate fillers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffie View Post
    True, but i mean have u seen the field or follow horse racing? Its literally AP Dortmund Firing line and then a couple gate fillers.
    Right but what would the actual triple pay on track? I'd guess in the $10 to $15 range considering relatively large pool.

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    The inside post is a non-factor given AP's speed and the small field; this race is completely unbettable barring some unusually large odds at post time.

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    What's unbettable?

    I'm telling you who the top 3 horses WILL be... We just need to figure out in which order they will finish.

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    pharoah will be an also ran here, Espinoza beat the piss outa that horse in the derby

    prob be on the shelf til breeders cup after this race

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    lousy race in itself to bet on--i got this prop at 5 dimes pharoah to win preakness but not belmont at +180 not bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by agendaman View Post
    lousy race in itself to bet on--i got this prop at 5 dimes pharoah to win preakness but not belmont at +180 not bad
    wow thats a fukin good ass bet theres gona be several fresh horses waiting for him if he wins preakness which now he has a 1-8 shot shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    BUT Pharoah WILL win this race for a couple reasons:
    1) The sport needs him to win so there is hype for Belmont and Triple Crown potential.

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    Sweeper, you're fukkin crazy, man!
    AP's gonna at least show.
    Firing line is the only other horse that will keep pace

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    What's unbettable?

    I'm telling you who the top 3 horses WILL be... We just need to figure out in which order they will finish.
    It all looks so easy before the race; I might go with a 4/1,7,8 exacta if I can get at least 15-1 on the 4 horse.

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    Don't even consider the other 5 horses guys... The 3 I mentioned are only ones with a chance.

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    Im thinking of 2 superfecta boxes....

    1,2,8,4
    1,2,8,7

    awful idea?

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    If top 3 in tri, i dont care what order, it wont pay shit in a 8 horse field. The only way you will get a price is if top horse is out of the money.

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    Not true if people aren't touching Dortmund (currently 8-1) and he wins. It's a pool, so it's all dependent on the various amounts bet on each combo. If you have a tri where the 3/5 favorite is NOT on top, of course it'll pay.

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    I'll pass on the Preakness. I'd be shocked if the first three horses weren't, in some order, 1-2-8. I have no interest in pushing my money through the betting windows to win a $5.20 exacta or a trifecta worth $11. Yes, upsets do happen . . .

    Good luck to everyone.
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    If these are $1 bets, I think you'll lose money.

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    I see no reason it does't play out exactly like the KY Derby. I also believe that something shifty is going on with Baffert's owners and believe Dortmund will run the exact same pace. 1,8,2 all sorts of ways and saving capital for the belmont... The preakness undercard sucks too.

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