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    updated
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    May 22 - 10:45 AM 92053 BELMONT STAKES - WINNER {ALL IN BETTING} DANZA +650
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    nortghfield race drew bromac n
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    mnr R9 #7 harbor mistress (8-1)

    guessing 3-1 as favorite scratched

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    P L Gyro is scheduled to run on 5/19/2014 in Race 7 at Woodbine Harness.

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    Toss Danza from the Belmont. Pletcher said today he is a no go.

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    Wednesday 5/21

    Belmont
    Race 1
    2-Offlee Catty 6-1- Best value of the contenders ran a good 2nd in debut with J Ortiz aboard then fell off a bit in 2nd start with bug A Worrie riding.Gets Ortiz back and a return to 1st race would be competitive.
    6-Official 2-1- Probably the most likely winner as Jacobson is lights out dropping horses into maiden claimers from MSWs off a trainer change.
    4-Mary's In Utopia 12-1 has the best last race and it was at this track and distance 18 days ago.1 for 32 trainer the last year is the scary part.
    Of the others 9-5 fave Baby B has shown best on turf but Contessa good with the quick turn around and also drops from MSW.Rudy has the only firster in 1-Rockaway 4-1 but he is only 1 for 27 last year with 1st timers.

    2-Offlee Catty
    6-Official
    4-Mary's In Utopia


    Race 2

    4-Brilliant Command 8-1- Is my best bet on the day at the price.Field is wide open though with many fitting into a very tight window ability wise.This one could attract some attention because of B Brown's hot start.Started 7 for 14 and now 7 for 20.If price gets cut in half no longer best bet.
    3-Upper East Side 3-1- Pletcher runner ran better than looks when 3rd last race 1st time on turf.Switch to Castellano a plus.
    7-Bolt From The Blue 12-1- Adds value to a 3 horse box and trainer Bush positive roi 1st route and also 1st turf.Bush having a much better 2014 so far than his abysmal 2013.
    The others are obvious C Clement's Knight Of Valor 4-1 and 6-Private Relations 7-2 who have very under rated duo of Junior Alvarado/J Kimmel.

    4-Brilliant Command
    3-Upper East Side
    7-Bolt From The Blue

    Race 3
    Looks like a 3 horse race for the win between the 3 favorites.If wanting to try a long shot 4-Newyork Conspiracy 10-1 would add value while dropping one of the favorites from a 3 horse box.

    7-Bridgetta
    5-Purling
    4-Newyork Conspiracy


    Race 4
    Hard to get past the 2 faves 5-White Sangria 2-1 and 9-Neck Of The Moon 3-1 but 3-Marcy 50-1 is very interesting.

    5-White Sangria
    9-Neck Of The Moon
    3-Marcy


    Race 5
    Hard to gauge when more than half the betting interests have been running on turf.While the only dirt runners in favored McLaughlin 1/1A entry and 2nd choice 5-Sea Trial for Shug clearly have superior numbers.

    1/1A Entry
    5-Sea Trial


    Race 6
    Would most likely not try with exotics and just go with co-2nd choice 2-Papy 3-1 for Clement/Lezcano.If I try for the exacta would add 4-Nowhere To Run 15-1 who beat some good horses when he broke his maiden and 5-2 fave 3-Legendary.

    2-Papy
    3-Legendary
    4-Nowhere To Run


    Race 7
    Another chalky looking race but could do worse than throwing a win bet on 3rd choice 6-Star Magnolia 4-1 and if wanting to take on a speed holding scenario then throw 4-See The Music 10-1 in the ex with the 3 and 6 and hope it's 4-6 around the track.

    6-Star Magnolia
    3-Accomplish First
    4-See The Music


    Race 8
    Hate to keep going back to the well but Clement is amazing bringing horses back from layoffs.They come back running better than ever and 2-Maximova 4-1 was pretty good when she went to the bench.Otherwise it looks obvious 6-8 or 8-6.

    2-Maximova
    6-Scampering
    8-Filimbi


    Race 9
    Clement shows up again here with favorite Point Roll 2-1 whose first race blows away this field but next race was surprisingly poor.Hard to trust but if he runs his first race it's game over.He also has a firster who I would much prefer in the win pool in 8-Thurgood 8-1.The most interesting price is 9-Electric Currency 12-1 first off the claim for L Rice and trying turf for the first time.

    7-Point Roll
    8-Thurgood
    9-Electric Currency
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    thanks mike, mike do you know if there will be any other horses in the belmont, that have decided yet...or the one's i posted..is that it already..
    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    Wednesday 5/21

    Belmont
    Race 1
    2-Offlee Catty 6-1- Best value of the contenders ran a good 2nd in debut with J Ortiz aboard then fell off a bit in 2nd start with bug A Worrie riding.Gets Ortiz back and a return to 1st race would be competitive.
    6-Official 2-1- Probably the most likely winner as Jacobson is lights out dropping horses into maiden claimers from MSWs off a trainer change.
    4-Mary's In Utopia 12-1 has the best last race and it was at this track and distance 18 days ago.1 for 32 trainer the last year is the scary part.
    Of the others 9-5 fave Baby B has shown best on turf but Contessa good with the quick turn around and also drops from MSW.Rudy has the only firster in 1-Rockaway 4-1 but he is only 1 for 27 last year with 1st timers.

    2-Offlee Catty
    6-Official
    4-Mary's In Utopia


    Race 2

    4-Brilliant Command 8-1- Is my best bet on the day at the price.Field is wide open though with many fitting into a very tight window ability wise.This one could attract some attention because of B Brown's hot start.Started 7 for 14 and now 7 for 20.If price gets cut in half no longer best bet.
    3-Upper East Side 3-1- Pletcher runner ran better than looks when 3rd last race 1st time on turf.Switch to Castellano a plus.
    7-Bolt From The Blue 12-1- Adds value to a 3 horse box and trainer Bush positive roi 1st route and also 1st turf.Bush having a much better 2014 so far than his abysmal 2013.
    The others are obvious C Clement's Knight Of Valor 4-1 and 6-Private Relations 7-2 who have very under rated duo of Junior Alvarado/J Kimmel.

    4-Brilliant Command
    3-Upper East Side
    7-Bolt From The Blue

    Race 3
    Looks like a 3 horse race for the win between the 3 favorites.If wanting to try a long shot 4-Newyork Conspiracy 10-1 would add value while dropping one of the favorites from a 3 horse box.

    7-Bridgetta
    5-Purling
    4-Newyork Conspiracy


    Race 4
    Hard to get past the 2 faves 5-White Sangria 2-1 and 9-Neck Of The Moon 3-1 but 3-Marcy 50-1 is very interesting.

    5-White Sangria
    9-Neck Of The Moon
    3-Marcy


    Race 5
    Hard to gauge when more than half the betting interests have been running on turf.While the only dirt runners in favored McLaughlin 1/1A entry and 2nd choice 5-Sea Trial for Shug clearly have superior numbers.

    1/1A Entry
    5-Sea Trial


    Race 6
    Would most likely not try with exotics and just go with co-2nd choice 2-Papy 3-1 for Clement/Lezcano.If I try for the exacta would add 4-Nowhere To Run 15-1 who beat some good horses when he broke his maiden and 5-2 fave 3-Legendary.

    2-Papy
    3-Legendary
    4-Nowhere To Run


    Race 7
    Another chalky looking race but could do worse than throwing a win bet on 3rd choice 6-Star Magnolia 4-1 and if wanting to take on a speed holding scenario then throw 4-See The Music 10-1 in the ex with the 3 and 6 and hope it's 4-6 around the track.

    6-Star Magnolia
    3-Accomplish First
    4-See The Music


    Race 8
    Hate to keep going back to the well but Clement is amazing bringing horses back from layoffs.They come back running better than ever and 2-Maximova 4-1 was pretty good when she went to the bench.Otherwise it looks obvious 6-8 or 8-6.

    2-Maximova
    6-Scampering
    8-Filimbi


    Race 9
    Clement shows up again here with favorite Point Roll 2-1 whose first race blows away this field but next race was surprisingly poor.Hard to trust but if he runs his first race it's game over.He also has a firster who I would much prefer in the win pool in 8-Thurgood 8-1.The most interesting price is 9-Electric Currency 12-1 first off the claim for L Rice and trying turf for the first time.

    7-Point Roll
    8-Thurgood
    9-Electric Currency

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    ur not gonna know for a week or two....a lot can happen between now and when entries are due

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    i figured as much, any horse out there that you would like to see jump in.....i figured one of thoses speed horses that ran at gulfstream, i think kid cruz got a lot of hype in preakness, being a homey..
    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    ur not gonna know for a week or two....a lot can happen between now and when entries are due

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    Mike you do the best layout for "picks ever! Regardless of the results , thanks for the work involved !
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    thx


    I don't know why I do it that way but I always have.Just looks right to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matrix1022 View Post
    Mike you do the best layout for "picks ever! Regardless of the results , thanks for the work involved !
    I agree. Mike is the best!!

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    Mike always enjoy reading your selections as lot of times they saved me for the day.

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    yes he,he takes that time,lays out it there, i just copy and paste........im lazy.....im going to give him some points right now.and every winner today im going to give him 10 points.

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    because its the right way to do it, your a professional.....im just chicken stratch.....for real..
    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    thx


    I don't know why I do it that way but I always have.Just looks right to me.

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    Bel

    R2 #6
    R3 #7
    R4 #9
    R5 #5
    R6 #6
    R7 #5
    R8 #8
    R9 #8

    bit of a hurry today

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    BELMONT
    RACE 3 Rettalfa

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    Belmont
    race 4 invanding humor

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    3rd race exacta
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    wednesday 5/21

    belmont
    race 1
    2-offlee catty 6-1- best value of the contenders ran a good 2nd in debut with j ortiz aboard then fell off a bit in 2nd start with bug a worrie riding.gets ortiz back and a return to 1st race would be competitive.
    6-official 2-1- probably the most likely winner as jacobson is lights out dropping horses into maiden claimers from msws off a trainer change.
    4-mary's in utopia 12-1 has the best last race and it was at this track and distance 18 days ago.1 for 32 trainer the last year is the scary part.
    Of the others 9-5 fave baby b has shown best on turf but contessa good with the quick turn around and also drops from msw.rudy has the only firster in 1-rockaway 4-1 but he is only 1 for 27 last year with 1st timers.

    2-offlee catty
    6-official
    4-mary's in utopia


    race 2

    4-brilliant command 8-1- is my best bet on the day at the price.field is wide open though with many fitting into a very tight window ability wise.this one could attract some attention because of b brown's hot start.started 7 for 14 and now 7 for 20.if price gets cut in half no longer best bet.
    3-upper east side 3-1- pletcher runner ran better than looks when 3rd last race 1st time on turf.switch to castellano a plus.
    7-bolt from the blue 12-1- adds value to a 3 horse box and trainer bush positive roi 1st route and also 1st turf.bush having a much better 2014 so far than his abysmal 2013.
    The others are obvious c clement's knight of valor 4-1 and 6-private relations 7-2 who have very under rated duo of junior alvarado/j kimmel.

    4-brilliant command
    3-upper east side
    7-bolt from the blue

    race 3
    looks like a 3 horse race for the win between the 3 favorites.if wanting to try a long shot 4-newyork conspiracy 10-1 would add value while dropping one of the favorites from a 3 horse box.

    7-bridgetta
    5-purling
    4-newyork conspiracy


    race 4
    hard to get past the 2 faves 5-white sangria 2-1 and 9-neck of the moon 3-1 but 3-marcy 50-1 is very interesting.

    5-white sangria
    9-neck of the moon
    3-marcy


    race 5
    hard to gauge when more than half the betting interests have been running on turf.while the only dirt runners in favored mclaughlin 1/1a entry and 2nd choice 5-sea trial for shug clearly have superior numbers.

    1/1a entry
    5-sea trial


    race 6
    would most likely not try with exotics and just go with co-2nd choice 2-papy 3-1 for clement/lezcano.if i try for the exacta would add 4-nowhere to run 15-1 who beat some good horses when he broke his maiden and 5-2 fave 3-legendary.

    2-papy
    3-legendary
    4-nowhere to run


    race 7
    another chalky looking race but could do worse than throwing a win bet on 3rd choice 6-star magnolia 4-1 and if wanting to take on a speed holding scenario then throw 4-see the music 10-1 in the ex with the 3 and 6 and hope it's 4-6 around the track.

    6-star magnolia
    3-accomplish first
    4-see the music


    race 8
    hate to keep going back to the well but clement is amazing bringing horses back from layoffs.they come back running better than ever and 2-maximova 4-1 was pretty good when she went to the bench.otherwise it looks obvious 6-8 or 8-6.

    2-maximova
    6-scampering
    8-filimbi


    race 9
    clement shows up again here with favorite point roll 2-1 whose first race blows away this field but next race was surprisingly poor.hard to trust but if he runs his first race it's game over.he also has a firster who i would much prefer in the win pool in 8-thurgood 8-1.the most interesting price is 9-electric currency 12-1 first off the claim for l rice and trying turf for the first time.

    7-point roll
    8-thurgood
    9-electric currency

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    Sir Melo's Z Tam in Race 14 at Harrahs Philadelphia
    Kimberley R is scheduled to run on 5/21/2014 in Race 8 at Balmoral Park
    :Burkentine Hanover is scheduled to run on 5/21/2014 in Race 8 at Plainridge
    .:Jaworski is scheduled to run on 5/21/2014 in Race 8 at Northfield Park

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    let me know if you opened them

    that work
    Separation is entered today at EVANGELINE DOWNS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harthebar View Post
    3rd race exacta
    20 POINTS

    thx hart but the points really aren't necessary.I'm just sharing my opinion.

    Today 2 of the exactas(3rd/8th) were obvious and the other 2 exactas(1st/9th) had 1 obvious horse.Only the first race paid decent.

    Don't like the cards tomorrow.Didn't look at Friday yet but Evangeline looks good on Saturday
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    you deserve them, you put a lot of time into this,...and you share it....must be some big races at Evangeline,missed the 8th race exacta 20 points ..lol saturday.
    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    thx hart but the points really aren't necessary.I'm just sharing my opinion.

    Today 2 of the exactas(3rd/8th) were obvious and the other 2 exactas(1st/9th) had 1 obvious horse.Only the first race paid decent.

    Don't like the cards tomorrow.Didn't look at Friday yet but Evangeline looks good on Saturday

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    Hart, what site do you watch Gulfstream replays? Cant find em on the Gulfstream site, only has trakus info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    Hart, what site do you watch Gulfstream replays? Cant find em on the Gulfstream site, only has trakus info.
    BLOODHORSE streams the stakes races from GP for free. Do not know where else to find the other races other than paying for an Equibase subscription. Maybe hart knows.

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    Yea. I usually use Formulator for replays so I havent the 1st clue where to look now that DRF has went off the grid. Several GP shippers at AQU tommorow is why I was wondering... Thanks.

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    Don't you guys have Twinspires accounts?

    You can see any replay since 2005 there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harthebar View Post
    you deserve them, you put a lot of time into this,...and you share it....must be some big races at Evangeline,missed the 8th race exacta 20 points ..lol saturday.
    thx again but like I told Easy, It sets a precedent that people should send me points.I don't want that.

    You/Everybody should save their points and get gift cards.


    Not really that big of races at EVD .It's a state bred day but their are 7 stakes with good fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    Don't you guys have Twinspires accounts?

    You can see any replay since 2005 there.
    NO. I live in a state that restricts ADW's. DW and offshore for me.

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    That sucks...You should really try to find a way to get access even if you can't bet.Get a relative to set up an account from out of state or something.All the resources like replays,trainer,jockey,trainer/jockey,sire,dam, and basically everything formulator charges a zillion dollars for is free.

    If you have twinspires for all that and then timeform for speed figs/pace figs and historical charts , you have everything you could ask for pennies on the dollar of what it costs elsewhere.

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    you can get historical charts for free at equibase

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyP View Post
    you can get historical charts for free at equibase


    Equibase just shows the running lines and chart caller

    TFUS charts are interactive and also have speed and pace figs for all the horses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    That sucks...You should really try to find a way to get access even if you can't bet.Get a relative to set up an account from out of state or something.All the resources like replays,trainer,jockey,trainer/jockey,sire,dam, and basically everything formulator charges a zillion dollars for is free.

    If you have twinspires for all that and then timeform for speed figs/pace figs and historical charts , you have everything you could ask for pennies on the dollar of what it costs elsewhere.
    Yeah about 15 or so states restrict ADW access. Might look into that.

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    MIke are you going to play the rainbow 6 mandatory payout?

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    Bel

    R1 #5 golden nugget
    R2 #3 william's lucky gray (5-1)
    R4 #12 canarsie kid
    R9 #10 mental iceberg

    CD

    R3 #10 jomelo
    R4 #5 mr right (5-2)
    R5 #3 rulelikecleo (2-1)
    R7 #7 contrapuntal (10-1)

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