[mantorras77]

Hey everyone, so I developed an NHL Over/Under System last season in February. I used it from February 26, 2011 right through the Stanley Cup. I used a 3-game chase(martingale) method. I ran a separate one for the Over's and one for the Under's and the results were 38-0 on the Under's and 23-0 on the Over's for a net profit of +65 Units. Never lost more than 3 games in a row. If you were to wager straight up your results would have been 60-34 +21 Units.

I'm excited about starting it off this season seeing how this does for a full season. Now i've never ran this from the beginning so I don't know how it will do so tread lightly and hopefully I can bring you $$$ whether it be by following or fading.

I will be running this using a labby system. Will post more later.

First official play is tonight:

10/18/2011
(A) CAROLINA @ BOSTON = UNDER 5.5 (-135)

[cubfan2121]

Whats the system?

[mantorras77]

10/18/11 Results:
(A) CAROLINA @ BOSTON = UNDER 5.5 (-135)

System record 1-0
Net$ = +$20.00
Units = +1.00

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
X-10-10-X
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10

Labby Line for Overs
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10

Nice to start off with a win, will post today's play's (if any) later.

[mantorras77]

10/20/2011

Unders
1st Game: 7:05pm - (A) TORONTO @ BOSTON = UNDER 5 (+122) (Risk $20 to win $24.40)
2nd Game: 9:35pm - (?) MINNESTOA @ EDMONTON = UNDER 5 (+118)

Overs
1st Game: 7:35pm - (A) WINNIPEG @ OTTAWA = OVER 6 (+107) (Risk $20 to win $21.40)
2nd Game: 10:05pm - (?) NASHVILLE @ VANCOUVER = OVER 5 (-130)

**NOTE** there's only a 2.5 hour difference in the games but hopefully that will be enough time to determine whether the 2nd game will be an (A) or (B) selection. If not enough time, just play it as an (A) and we'll add it to the line.

[John Deere]

How do you choose your game ?

[mantorras77]

How do you choose your game ?

A system I devised using nothing but stats

[mantorras77]

10/20/2011

Unders
1st Game: 7:05pm - (A) TORONTO @ BOSTON = UNDER 5 (+122)
2nd Game: 9:35pm - (B) MINNESTOA @ EDMONTON = UNDER 5 (+118)

Overs
1st Game: 7:35pm - (A) WINNIPEG @ OTTAWA = OVER 6 (+107)
2nd Game: 10:05pm - (B) NASHVILLE @ VANCOUVER = OVER 5 (-130)

2 "B" win's tonight taking us to 3-0 (+1.68 units)

[mantorras77]

System record 3-0
Net$ = +$33.60
Units = +1.68

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
X-10-10-X
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10

Labby Line for Overs
10-10-10-20
X-10-10-X
10-10-10-10

10/21/2011

Unders
10:05pm - (A) DALLAS @ ANAHEIM = UNDER 5.5 (-136) (Risk $27.20 to win $20.00)

Overs
8:05pm - (A) CAROLINA @ ST. LOUIS = OVER 5.5 (+101) (Risk $30 to win $30.30)

[mantorras77]

10/21/2011

Unders
10:05pm - (A) DALLAS @ ANAHEIM = UNDER 5.5 (-136) (Risk $27.20 to win $20.00)

Overs
8:05pm - (A) CAROLINA @ ST. LOUIS = OVER 5.5 (+101) (Risk $30 to win $30.30)

Another "A" win taking us to 4-0 and clearing a line on the Under's

Reshuffling the Over's to:

12-12-12-12
12-12-12-12
10-10-10-10

Will post Saturday's play's in the morning.

[skycity]

Interesting to see it goes.

[mantorras77]

System record 4-0
Net$ = +$23.60
Units = +1.18

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10

Labby Line for Overs
12-12-12-12
12-12-12-12
10-10-10-10

10/22/2011

Unders
1st Game: 7:05pm - (A) SAN JOSE @ BOSTON = UNDER 5 (+112) (Risk $20.00 to win $22.40)
2nd Game: 10:05pm - (?) NY RANGERS @ EDMONTON = UNDER 5

Overs
1st Game: 4:05pm - (B) NASHVILLE @ CALGARY = OVER 5.5 (+125) (Risk $24.00 to win $30.00)
2nd Game: 7:05pm - (?) COLUMBUS @ OTTAWA = OVER 5.5

[mantorras77]

Great night!!! Got "C" win on the Overs and got a "B" win on the unders.


System record 6-0
Net$ = $41.60
Units = +2.08

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
10-10-10-20
10-10-X-X
10-10-10-10

Labby Line for Overs
12-12-12-12
15-15-15-15
X-10-10-X

10/23/2011

Unders
8:05pm - (A) PHOENIX @ ANAHEIM = UNDER 5.5 (-130) (Risk $39.00 to win $30.00)

[english bob]

Dont rob yourself, no C loss on the overs...check the scores... the cbj/ott score was 4-3 to ott....system still without a loss....

bol to you for the season...good start..

[mantorras77]

Dont rob yourself, no C loss on the overs...check the scores... the cbj/ott score was 4-3 to ott....system still without a loss....

bol to you for the season...good start..

Hey English Bob....you just made my day!!! I was using Covers' My Scores feature and on there it listed 3-2 final score!! Thank you so much!! I will edit post above!

[mantorras77]

10/23/2011

Unders
8:05pm - (A) PHOENIX @ ANAHEIM = UNDER 5.5 (-130) (Risk $39.00 to win $30.00)


System record 6-0
Net$ = $2.60
Units = +0.13

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
10-10-10-40
10-10-X-20
10-10-10-10

Labby Line for Overs
12-12-12-12
15-15-15-15
X-10-10-X

10/24/2011

Overs
7:05pm - (A) TORONTO @ PHILADELPHIA = OVER 5.5 (-130) (Risk $31.20 to win $24.00)

[mantorras77]

10/24/2011

Overs
7:05pm - (A) TORONTO @ PHILADELPHIA = OVER 5.5 (-130) (Risk $31.20 to win $24.00)


System record 7-0
Net$ = $26.60
Units = +1.33

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
18-18-18-18
10-10-X-20
10-10-10-10

Labby Line for Overs
X-12-12-X
15-15-15-15
X-10-10-X

10/25/2011

Unders
Game #1 = 7:35pm - (B) TAMPA BAY @ BUFFALO = UNDER 5.5 (+110) (Risk $30.00 to win $33.00)
Game #2 = 10:35pm - (A or C) NEW JERSEY @ LOS ANGELES = UNDER 5 (-130)

if Game 1 win's bet Game 2 to win $36
if Game 1 lose's bet Game 2 to win $35

Overs
7:05pm - (A) OTTAWA @ CAROLINA = OVER 5.5 (-122) (Risk $29.28 to win $24.00)

[xelemental]

Nice Will follow you!!!

[xelemental]

does a martingale chase system work as well? Im thinking of betting 25 on game A, then 50 on game B, and finally 100 on game C?

[Inkwell77]

Good stuff!

[mantorras77]

does a martingale chase system work as well? Im thinking of betting 25 on game A, then 50 on game B, and finally 100 on game C?

Last season, I used Martingale and never lost more than 3 in a row but I never did it for a full season so that's why i'm trying labby.

[xelemental]

so what are your next plays?

[mantorras77]

so what are your next plays?

will post later today

[skycity]

will post later today

Looking forward to it.

[mantorras77]

***CORRECTION*** - I just realized I made a mistake in my original post. I said I ran a 3-game chase on this last season and then said I never lost more than 3 in a row which in reality means I never lost game# 4 which officially makes it a 4-game chase. So i added an additional line to my labby and we'll see how it goes. I apologize for that.

10/25/2011

Unders
Game #1 = 7:35pm - (B) TAMPA BAY @ BUFFALO = UNDER 5.5 (+110) (Risk $30.00 to win $33.00)
Game #2 = 10:35pm - (C) NEW JERSEY @ LOS ANGELES = UNDER 5 (-130) (Risk to win $35)

Overs
7:05pm - (A) OTTAWA @ CAROLINA = OVER 5.5 (-122) (Risk $29.28 to win $24.00)


System record 8-0
Net$ = $2.32
Units = +0.12

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
18-18-18-18
10-10-X-35
X-10-10-X
10-10-10-10

Labby Line for Overs
X-12-12-X
15-15-15-15
X-10-10-X
10-10-10-10

10/26/2011

Overs
Game #1 = 7:35pm - (B) PHILADELPHIA @ MONTREAL = OVER 5.5 (+117) (Risk $45 to win $52.65 )
Game #2 = 10:05pm - (A or C) ST. LOUIS @ VANCOUVER = OVER 5.5 (+114)

if Game 1 win's bet Game 2 $27 to win ??
if Game 1 lose's bet Game 2 $33 to win ??

**NOTE** there's only a 2.5 hour difference in the games but hopefully that will be enough time to determine whether the 2nd game will be an (A) or (C) selection. If not enough time, just play Game #2 - $45 to win and we'll adjust the lines accordingly.

[mantorras77]

10/26/2011

Overs
Game #1 = 7:35pm - (B) PHILADELPHIA @ MONTREAL = OVER 5.5 (+117) (Risk $45 to win $52.65 )
Game #2 = 10:05pm - (A) ST. LOUIS @ VANCOUVER = OVER 5.5 (+114) (Risk $27 to win)

System record 9-0
Net$ = $27.97
Units = +1.40

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
18-18-18-18
10-10-X-35
X-10-10-X
10-10-10-10

Labby Line for Overs
X-12-12-29
X-15-15-14
X-10-10-X
10-10-10-10

10/27/2011

Unders
8:35pm - (A) LOS ANGELES @ DALLAS = UNDER 5 (-120) (Risk $43.20 to win $36.00 )

Overs
7:05pm - (B) WINNIPEG @ PHILADELPHIA = OVER 5.5 (-102) (Risk $29.58 to win $29.00 )

[mantorras77]

10/27/2011

Unders
8:35pm - (A) LOS ANGELES @ DALLAS = UNDER 5 (-120) (Risk $43.20 to win $36.00 )

Overs
7:05pm - (B) WINNIPEG @ PHILADELPHIA = OVER 5.5 (-102) (Risk $29.58 to win $29.00 )

System record 10-0
Net$ = $13.77
Units = +.69

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
24-23-23-24
19-19 -19-20
X-10-10-X
10-10 -10-10


Labby Line for Overs
X-18-18-18
X-X-15-X
X-10-10-X
10-10-10-10


10/28/2011

Unders
9:05pm - (B) EDMONTON @ COLORADO = UNDER 5.5 (-125) (Risk $48.75 to win $39.00 )

Overs
9:05pm - (A) ST. LOUIS @ CALGARY = OVER 5.5 (+115) (Risk $36.00 to win $41.40 )

[mantorras77]

10/28/2011

Unders
9:05pm - (B) EDMONTON @ COLORADO = UNDER 5.5 (-125) (Risk $48.75 to win $39.00 )

Overs
9:05pm - (A) ST. LOUIS @ CALGARY = OVER 5.5 (+115) (Risk $36.00 to win $41.40 )

System record 11-0
Net$ = $16.77
Units = +.84

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
24-23-23-24
X-19-19-X
X-10-10-X
10-10 -10-10


Labby Line for Overs
18-18-18-18
X-X-15-18
X-10-10-X
10-10-10-10


10/29/2011

Unders
7:05pm - (A) BOSTON @ MONTREAL = UNDER 5 (+105) (Risk $48.00 to win $50.40 )

Overs
7:05pm - (B) WINNIPEG @ TAMPA BAY = OVER 5.5 (-135) (Risk $44.55 to win $33.00 )

[NHL_freak]

Hello. You said your system went 60-34 +21 Units on flatbetting! I would like to see your results updated on flatbet as well this season I know your system is a chase system but do you think you could make a flatbet record as well? For me GL!

[mantorras77]

10/29/2011

Unders
7:05pm - (A) BOSTON @ MONTREAL = UNDER 5 (+105) (Risk $48.00 to win $50.40 )

Overs
7:05pm - (B) WINNIPEG @ TAMPA BAY = OVER 5.5 (-135) (Risk $44.55 to win $33.00 )

System record 11-0
Net$ = $-75.78
Units = -3.79

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
24-23-23-48
X-19-19-24
X-10-10-X
10-10 -10-10


Labby Line for Overs
18-18-18-18
X-X-15-40
X-10-10-23
10-10-10-10


10/30/2011

Unders
8:05pm - (B) ST. LOUIS @ EDMONTON = UNDER 5 (+100) (Risk $43.00 to win $43.00 )

Overs
7:35pm - (C) TORONTO @ OTTAWA = OVER 5.5 (-130) (Risk $42.90 to win $33.00 )

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4-Game Martingale Chase (1 unit = $20):
System record 11-0 (highest risk= $122.20)
Net$= $+140.75
Units= +7.04

Straight Up (1 unit = $20):
Record= 11-13
Net$= $-54.20
Units= -2.71

[skycity]

Another bad day there, opps..

[carlitosgarcia]

no plays today?

[mantorras77]

10/30/2011

Unders
8:05pm - (B) ST. LOUIS @ EDMONTON = UNDER 5 (+100) (Risk $43.00 to win $43.00 )

Overs
7:35pm - (C) TORONTO @ OTTAWA = OVER 5.5 (-130) (Risk $42.90 to win $33.00 )

10/31/2011
No Plays

System record 11-0
Net$ = $-161.68
Units = -8.08

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
24-23-23-48
X-19-19-46
X-10-10-22
10-10 -10-10


Labby Line for Overs
18-18-18-18
X-X-15-40
X-10-10-45
10-10-10-32


11/1/2011

Unders
No Play

Overs
7:05pm - (D) TAMPA BAY @ CAROLINA = OVER 5.5 (-105) (Risk $44.10 to win $42.00 )

11/2/2011

Unders
No Play

Overs
7:35pm - (A) PHILADELPHIA @ BUFFALO = OVER 5.5 (TBA) (TBA )

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4-Game Martingale Chase (1 unit = $20):
System record 11-0 (highest risk= $227.01)
Net$= $-21.45
Units= -1.07

Straight Up (1 unit = $20):
Record= 11-15
Net$= $-100.20
Units= -5.01

[mantorras77]

So it's quite obvious that no matter how you look at it this system so far isn't working. Like I said in the original post, I didn't start this system last season until February 26 so I was unsure how it would do for a full season and because how I figure out my selection's it's not possible to back test either.

We're going to a game D on the over's and on the Martingale Chase method we're up to laying 11.35 units to win 10.81 units and if it loses, 21.16 units just went bye bye on that chase but that's the risk of the Martingale. At least on the labby line you don't have to risk such crazy amounts but with a sub .500 straight-up record the labby won't produce profits any time soon either.

I think it's time to put up the "FADE WATCH" alert on this system.

Let's hope for a much better November!

[mantorras77]

11/1/2011

Unders
No Play

Overs
7:05pm - (D) TAMPA BAY @ CAROLINA = OVER 5.5 (-105) (Risk $44.10 to win $42.00 )

System record 12-0
Net$ = $-119.68
Units = -5.98

1 unit = $20

Labby Line for Unders
30-29-29-30
21-21-21-21
X-10-10-22
10-10 -10-10

Labby Line for Overs
18-18-18-18
14-14-13-14
17-16-16-16
X-10-10-X

11/2/2011

Unders
No Play

Overs
7:35pm - (A) PHILADELPHIA @ BUFFALO = OVER 5.5 (-105) (Risk $37.80 to win $36.00 )

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4-Game Martingale Chase (1 unit = $20):
Highest risk= $227.01
Net$= $+194.75
Units= +9.74

Straight Up (1 unit = $20):
Record= 12-15
Net$= $-80.20
Units= -4.01

[skycity]

Nice bouncing back, head up!