Originally Posted by
stevenash
They need to blow up that shit and start all over again from the ground up.
Snakes have not been relevant since Big Unit was both starting and closing out World Series games and little Lu-Gonz delivering one the most clutch RBI hits in World Series history off of the greatest relief pitcher in baseball history.
2001 NY/Ari World Series was one of the top ten World Series ever played.
Look at the Hall of Fame players that participated in that.
You got your Jeter's and Mo's and Mussina's of the world on the one side, you got your Big Unit on the other side.
They're in, nothing to argue there.
Now look at game 7 on that World Series, you could argue The greatest World Series game ever played.
Now chew on this for a second.
Just focusing on game 7 only.
Clemens started for New York.
Schilling started for Arizona.
Two pitchers who belong in the Hall of Fame but aren't enshrined because of politics and being all around general assholes.
Both starters were magnificent in that pressure cooker game, Clemens actually pitched a tad better as NY led that game 2 to 1 late innings before both managers turned the ball over to relievers.
Look at the two pitchers who closed out that epic affair.
Two Hall of fame pitchers. Mo in the Hall for being the greatest at what he did, Randy Johnson in the Hall for being this generations greatest starting pitcher. (OK if you want to argue Maddux, Pedro, and Clemens were just as good, have at it I won't debate that, but they weren't better than Randy)
Johnson actually outpitched Mo Rivera both went 1.1 innings.
Unit was light out, threw 17 pitches getting four outs of those 17 pitches 12 were strikes.
*side note* being born and raised in the NYC market all New York professional teams are broadcasted live every game every day.
I have seen pretty much every game Rivera has pitched in for 20 years, that game was the only one time I ever have seen Mo pissed off in 20 years, to this day, I don't want to say blame Brosius for that loss, but let's just say Rivera didn't want Scotty that close to he third base line and wanted Brosius to close the middle more with Jeter to his right. The rest is history little Gonzo hit that soft single that got the job done for the Snakes.
Besides mentioning Schilling who should be in the Hall, Mark Grace who did his Hall of Fame body of work with the Cubs belongs in the Hall.
Andy Pettitte for sure belongs too, and Posada for being the dominant catcher in the AL for his ERA.
I do think Bernie Williams should have gotten much more consideration.
Tino and Paulie were on the fence but I wished the two of them got a few more votes than they received.