[jjgold]

Might take stab on Tulsa ML and home

Both teams seem bad

[You mad bro]

Tulsa ml 10k

[Smoke]

Iowa State and Tulsa face off Thursday night for the third time in 13 months — in the third different stadium, no less.Neither the Cyclones nor the Golden Hurricane are approaching the rubber match as the last chance to prove which team is better, though. Both need a win simply to get their season going in the right direction.Iowa State is 0-2 after losses to FCS school Northern Iowa and rival Iowa. Tulsa is 1-2 after getting pounded at Bowling Green and at No. 14 Oklahoma.The Golden Hurricane got the better of the Cyclones in their last meeting, a 31-17 win in the 2012 Liberty Bowl. But Tulsa has 13 new starters, including 10 underclassmen, and Iowa State entered this season with the least-experienced group of starters among Big 12 teams."We're two teams coming off a successful run a year ago and I think we are both in search of the next win. We both desperately need to get back on track," Tulsa coach Bill Blankenship said.Blankenship and his Iowa State counterpart, Paul Rhoads, share major issues with scuffling offenses.Tulsa is averaging just 19 points a game and has struggled to run and throw the ball. The Cyclones have only put up 20 and 21 points in their first two games, and sophomore quarterback Sam Richardson's injured ankle remains a major concern."Sam is moving much better than he did in the Iowa game. But he's far from healthy," Rhoads said. "It's a lingering type of ankle injury that may bother him throughout the course of the season."Here are five things to watch when the Cyclones and Golden Hurricane kickoff in Tulsa:1. CYCLE IN THE CLONES: Despite underwhelming numbers from its running backs, Iowa State remains committed to a back-by-committee approach. The Cyclones have just 141 yards rushing from running backs and are 101st nationally in yards per game."You're going to continue to see a number of backs in there," Rhoads said. He's not kidding either. Iowa State has five backs listed on their latest depth chart, and all of them are designated as possible starters.2. TGI THURSDAY: Iowa State and Tulsa have each had 12 days off to prepare for a rare Thursday night kickoff. But Blankenship isn't bothered because it'll be a national broadcast — and gives the Golden Hurricane some added rest before and after the game."If you have to have one that gets you out of sync, I don't mind having an extra two or three days to prepare and an extra two or three days when we're done." The Cyclones also don't mind, since it helps prepare them to host Texas next Thursday.3. CENTERED: Iowa State's beleaguered offensive line should get a major boost with the return of center Tom Farniok. He's expected to start after tearing a ligament in his knee in the opener. That was followed by a similar injury to backup Jamison Lalk against Iowa — and continuity has been a big reason why the Cyclones line has been underwhelming so far.4. GROUND UP: Tulsa beat Iowa State in the Liberty Bowl in large part by running for 317 yards. Trey Watts was named the game's MVP after rushing for 149 yards, and he is averaging 5.5 yards a carry this season."They had that look in their eye in the fourth quarter that they didn't want anymore. That's what you want as an offensive lineman. It was a huge win for us," Tulsa guard Jake Alexander said.5. ROAD STUDS: Iowa State has been surprisingly successful in its road openers under Rhoads, winning three of four. The Cyclones beat UConn in 2011 and Iowa last season. Oh, and Iowa State is 9-2 in its last 11 games played on Thursday

[jjgold]

Smokey good info

Fuk it taking Tulsa Ml

[KKoz9]

For what it's worth, Tulsa has returning starters at QB and RB and they're both pretty good...Iowa State has new guys at those positions

Tulsa at home

[jjgold]

[Brock Landers]

Horrible teams....but someone has to win

[Ghenghis Kahn]

both teams haven't covered the spread yet.

pass

[Smoke]

Taking the UNDER

[frogsrangers]

Iowa State had the most seniors of any team in Division 1 last year... and Tulsa beat them. Then Iowa State loses all those seniors and is inexperienced. Go with Tulsa mL

[Night-Tripper]

For what it's worth, Tulsa has returning starters at QB and RB and they're both pretty good...Iowa State has new guys at those positions

Tulsa at home

Cody Green is not remotely close to being a *pretty good* QB. He can run the option, but he cannot hit a WR (downfield) if his life depended on it. Passing has NEVER been his strong point. The only reason he may look worth a shit tonight, is because he's playing Iowa state... but he still will not look like a passing whiz.

[Antibet]

1.	26-Sep-13	Football/NFL	(Total Points)	San Francisco 49ers/St. Louis Rams (O 42) for Game (-108)	Pending
2.	26-Sep-13	Football/NCAA	(Total Points)	Virginia Tech/Georgia Tech (O 41.5) for Game (-108)	Pending
3.	26-Sep-13	Football/NCAA	(Handicap)	Iowa State vs Tulsa (-3) for Game (-109)	Pending

[pulledclear]

I have your best chance in this one. RUN!

[El Nino]

For what it's worth, Tulsa has returning starters at QB and RB and they're both pretty good...Iowa State has new guys at those positions

Tulsa at home

That's not true at all. QB Sam Richardson played last year towards the end of the season as a red shirt freshman with Jantz and Barnett . Iowa State returned all 3 of their starting RB's who are now seniors. White, was hurt on and off last season, Johnson, and Woody the 3rd down/short yardage back who scored the winning TD against Oklahoma State in the upset game of the year. RB is not the problem. WR's, and defense is the problem. ISU lost almost all of their key starting defense.

[No coincidences]

For what it's worth, Tulsa has returning starters at QB and RB and they're both pretty good...Iowa State has new guys at those positions

Tulsa at home

You've gotta be fvcking kidding me. Cody Green is "good"?

And FTR, Iowa State has returning starters at both QB (Sam Richardson) and RB (Shontrelle Johnson, injured James White back). But don't let the facts get in the way of your post.

[No coincidences]

ISU sorely misses its two do-everything LB's from a year ago, Knott and Klein I think was his name....

[Night-Tripper]

You've gotta be fvcking kidding me. Cody Green is "good"?

Don't need to tell me about Cody Green... watched the kid play numerous times while he was the QB for the Dayton Broncos. He couldn't throw the ball when he was a Bronco, couldn't throw the ball when he was a Cornhusker and he has yet to show the ability to win a game with his arm as a Hurricane.

[jjgold]

Too bad teams ,,, theory is take under

Better than any other angle

[Smoke]

Corbone gets it

[No coincidences]

Don't need to tell me about Cody Green... watched the kid play numerous times while he was the QB for the Dayton Broncos. He couldn't throw the ball when he was a Bronco, couldn't throw the ball when he was a Cornhusker and he has yet to show the ability to win a game with his arm as a Hurricane.

He is nothing short of atrocious, and Tulsa lost a lot of defensive starters from a year ago.

Not advocating a play on ISU because they aren't very good either, but I think you're nuts if you back Tulsa in this spot.

[Night-Tripper]

He is nothing short of atrocious, and Tulsa lost a lot of defensive starters from a year ago.

Not advocating a play on ISU because they aren't very good either, but I think you're nuts if you back Tulsa in this spot.

Heard that. I'm on Rams and Ramblin' Wreck.

Fade me if you wanna make a buck.

[Microbetter]

I've got the under in a parlay. If both have bad defenses but lack talent to take advantage of scoring opportunities, always take the under.

[Night-Tripper]

I've got the under in a parlay. If both have bad defenses but lack talent to take advantage of scoring opportunities, always take the under.

Cannot pick totals to save my life. But, when I do play them, I always go over... at least then you've always got a chance. Might be remote, but you've got a chance.

Nightmare: These 2-4-shit teams finish regulation tied 3-3. Go to OT and after 23 shots apiece, final score is 49-47

[Microbetter]

I screwed up. I took the over. TWICE!!

[No coincidences]

As has been pointed out multiple times in this thread, Cody Green sucks.

Always has, always will.

[jjgold]

I am never betting bad matchups again

I forced the bet and paying derly

[No coincidences]

Green's a total fvcking trainwreck. LOL.

[Night-Tripper]

Go with Tulsa mL

We don't need Brock in order to make money any more... just fade this transvestite.

[ThaTopMoron]

if you didn't know to just avoid this shit game when you had the VT game and the 49'ers game then you need to quit gambling

[vividjohn45]

i'm in tulsa for week to 3 months. i turned in my notice t end of july.
cannot wait to go back to vegas.

i did not go to game. sevendust is at tulsa state fare this saturday. then chevel next saturday. i'm going to both. don't play slots at hard rock in tulsa. they suck.

riverspirit casino is big wins. and osage casino is moderte wins.

[vividjohn45]

if they had legl sportsbetting here. and legl online poker. i'd sty here because river spirit paid off all my ************ this summer.

[vividjohn45]

cred. cards

[vividjohn45]

but tulsa loses. okc is still busting sportsbettors. get outta here.

[vividjohn45]

i'm ready to go back to vegas with no credit debt. but i'm done at casinos here. vegas awaits.

[KKoz9]

Cody Green is not remotely close to being a *pretty good* QB. He can run the option, but he cannot hit a WR (downfield) if his life depended on it. Passing has NEVER been his strong point. The only reason he may look worth a shit tonight, is because he's playing Iowa state... but he still will not look like a passing whiz.

You've gotta be fvcking kidding me. Cody Green is "good"?

And FTR, Iowa State has returning starters at both QB (Sam Richardson) and RB (Shontrelle Johnson, injured James White back). But don't let the facts get in the way of your post.

Wow, did Cody Green bang your moms or something?

The guy had very respectable stats (2500, 17/11) and led his average? team to an 11-3 record last...that qualifies as "pretty good".

And yeah, Richardson did start 3 games and have 79 attempts last season, and their returning running backs barely cracked 500 yards last year, so returning starters can be used very loosely if you insist on mentioning spare parts.