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    Cain vs JDS odds up...

    http://mmajunkie.com/news/23981/odds...dos-santos.mma

    UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez (9-0 MMA, 7-0 UFC) has been tapped the favorite over top contender Junior Dos Santos (12-1 MMA, 6-0 UFC).

    Granted, the duo hasn't officially been booked for an upcoming card, though UFC president Dana White has targeted the heavyweight blockbuster for an October or November event, possibly UFC 136 in Houston.

    But noted MMA Oddsmaker Joey Oddessa has set a line of -150 for the champ Velasquez and +120 for challenger Dos Santos.

    That means a $150 bet on Velasquez would earn you $100 in winnings. Conversely, a $100 bet on Dos Santos would get you $120 in winnings. Therefore, Oddessa is giving Velasquez an approximate 60 percent chance of winning; Velasquez has a 45 percent chance. (Due to the nature of the sports betting and the house's take, the numbers don't equal 100 percent.)

    Oddessa said the line likely will continue to widen as the fall fight approaches.

    "I saw a few sportsbooks open the first number on Saturday night," he told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "As a bettor, I would have liked to bet a reasonable-sized wager on Velasquez at -105, but limits were low.

    "It's very likely Velasquez is at least -185 by fight night. The irony is everyone lined up to bet (Shane) Carwin over Dos Santos last weekend, and now they are zigzagging after a dominant performance against Carwin."

    Dos Santos, of course, defeated Carwin in this past weekend's UFC 131 main event. The victory, which earned Dos Santos the title shot, came via lopsided scores of 30-27, 30-27 and 30-26 following a dominant first round that left his opponent bruised and bloodied.

    But as impressive as Dos Santos was – and as durable as Carwin proved – Oddessa expects a sizable step up in competition against Velasquez.

    "With all respect to Carwin, who is a top-five heavyweight in the UFC, Cain is not Shane," he said. "The differences in the wrestling and head movement and speed are so glaringly obvious to me that I can't in good conscience open Junior or anyone in MMA as a favorite over Cain – in the nutshell – because I like money."

    I like the opener on Cain... Bookmaker is listed at -120 right now...

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    I would love to hit the Velasquez line hard, but I won't until a date is announced. Last time I played him for a very large play and I had my money locked for over 6 months.

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    Gonna be a lot of unhappy losers after betting on brown pride

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    I went ahead and threw 2u on JDS at +105... plan on going bigger, but I'll wait seeing as how it's still 4 months out and everyone seems to be on Cain. I'm assuming everyone thinks Cain will be able to easily get JDS to the ground and his cardio will push him through the championship rounds. I think JDS is better on his feet and his TDD and resilience will win him the fight. Hard to say he'll get the TKO, but unless he gasses out in the final rounds I don't see Cain working and dropping him like he did Brock. Maybe we can get JDS at around +130 or so nearing the fight. I think there is still a little steam surrounding him after the way he outclassed Carwin so that's probably why he opened as the fav.

    EDIT: JDS is +130 right now at bodog.
    Last edited by sirchadwick1; 06-14-11 at 05:54 AM.

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    Just put $135 on Cain to win $100.

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    I'm thinking this will be a pick em at fight time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Cash View Post
    I'm thinking this will be a pick em at fight time.

    at least...i`m expecting the odds to flip and dos santos to be the fave......that`s why i grabbed some dos santos at +140 at sportsbook.....i can always tinker a little as the odds change....

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    I'm leaving JDS right now just because there is still a lot of unknown with cain's layoff and shoulder injury recovery

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    lol you can always count on Joey Bagels for a good line or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go4theJugular View Post
    Gonna be a lot of unhappy losers after betting on brown pride
    both of them are brown, clown

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    Cain will be the favorite. around -200 or so. He will destroy JDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybadboy View Post
    both of them are brown, clown
    One of them has brown pride tattooed on his chest...kill yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by omalley21 View Post
    Cain will be the favorite. around -200 or so. He will destroy JDS.
    I would bet a billion dollars that pillow fists doesn't destroy anyone...he might eek out a decision if you're lucky

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    I don't see how anyone can say either guy will destroy the other. But if you want to go there... I could definitely see JDS KOing Cain, whereas I can only see Cain winning by decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirchadwick1 View Post
    I don't see how anyone can say either guy will destroy the other. But if you want to go there... I could definitely see JDS KOing Cain, whereas I can only see Cain winning by decision.

    Oh my God, a guy who isn't completely useless like the rest of you fukks who think Cain is a mortal lock

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    If Cain didnt have such a long lay off, & was recently coming off the Brock fight, I think he'd be favored by more than that. But It should be a close fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go4theJugular View Post
    Oh my God, a guy who isn't completely useless like the rest of you fukks who think Cain is a mortal lock
    Haha.... you officially just gave away that you're the old Pride>UFC guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirchadwick1 View Post
    Haha.... you officially just gave away that you're the old Pride>UFC guy.
    Haha everyone already knew that, but what exactly in the last post gave it away? I hardly ever use the word "fukks"

    Don't worry I'll go back to NickDiaz209 in a few weeks

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    I don't know of anyone else around here... or anywhere that spells it fukks, fukkin, or fukk me but you. That gave it away easily. Plus you're like the numero uno troll around here. Easy to spot under any acct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirchadwick1 View Post
    I don't know of anyone else around here... or anywhere that spells it fukks, fukkin, or fukk me but you. That gave it away easily. Plus you're like the numero uno troll around here. Easy to spot under any acct.
    well I got that from the NBA section...that's how everyone spells it over there...it is censored if you spell it right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go4theJugular View Post
    well I got that from the NBA section...that's how everyone spells it over there...it is censored if you spell it right
    dude you runnin your mouth like a dumb azz and can't even pot any winners

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirchadwick1 View Post
    I don't know of anyone else around here... or anywhere that spells it fukks, fukkin, or fukk me but you. That gave it away easily. Plus you're like the numero uno troll around here. Easy to spot under any acct.
    You what what really gave it away? When he confirmed he was pride/nickdiaz the other day.

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    whats th point of changing names?

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    Quote Originally Posted by urge2kill View Post
    You what what really gave it away? When he confirmed he was pride/nickdiaz the other day.
    LOL, shame on me for not keeping up with every post of his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybadboy View Post
    whats th point of changing names?
    Allows multiple trolling accounts in case one gets suspended!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaladarus View Post
    I would love to hit the Velasquez line hard, but I won't until a date is announced. Last time I played him for a very large play and I had my money locked for over 6 months.
    agreed. having your money tied up for so long just isnt smart.

    i hope the lines open around a pick-em though. i havent made my pick but if one opens as a favorite thats going to affect my choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Allows multiple trolling accounts in case one gets suspended!
    oh lol, i forgot about syuspensions, good idea if you enjoy that

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybadboy View Post
    dude you runnin your mouth like a dumb azz and can't even pot any winners
    really? I didn't pick ken flo jds or munoz? because the money in my account and previous posts say I did. meanwhile your dumbass just lost ur savings betting on lebron james

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDiaz209 View Post
    really? I didn't pick ken flo jds or munoz? because the money in my account and previous posts say I did. meanwhile your dumbass just lost ur savings betting on lebron james
    i went 3-0 in mma dumb azz, keep betting those -300 faves clown

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDiaz209 View Post
    really? I didn't pick ken flo jds or munoz? because the money in my account and previous posts say I did. meanwhile your dumbass just lost ur savings betting on lebron james
    who knows what you picked, you have multiple accounts, probably picking both sides, dumazz

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybadboy View Post
    who knows what you picked, you have multiple accounts, probably picking both sides, dumazz
    lol this is true

    He's picked the wrong side many times in his threads claiming x fighter is a can is going to get destroyed.

    How is he not banned already for having multiple accounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybadboy View Post
    i went 3-0 in mma dumb azz, keep betting those -300 faves clown
    Really I never said Munoz would win? I never started a thread claiming Carwin would get embarrassed? And those were -300 favorites right?

    Ken Flo was -280, I'll give u that, but this was a lock so get over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybadboy View Post
    i went 3-0 in mma dumb azz, keep betting those -300 faves clown
    So you didn't bet on the Heat two days ago? Did u or did you not? Exactly...good call

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    I think JDS wins via superior boxing, but Cain is gonna be tough to break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varker View Post
    I think JDS wins via superior boxing, but Cain is gonna be tough to break.
    I just can't wait for this fight...I have a boner right now just thinking about it

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