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03-05-17 06:48 AM #701
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03-05-17 08:06 AM #702
I didn't come on this forum for this card for a reason and I'm so glad I stayed away from all these shitty opinions. I hit every fight except Mark Hunt huge night congrats anybody else who made it big off the underdogs 🤑
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03-05-17 08:59 AM #703
Wasn't able to watch the main event because I was travelling but heard it was bs! Is this true? If so UFC needs to do something with these pillow fights. That's not what people pay for! But I was on the winning side so can't complain too much
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03-05-17 08:59 AM #704
Hell of a night! I was lucky AND good. Great combination.
Originally Posted by Shagdogy
Card Total: 8-0, +14.06u
2017 YTD: 25-14, +13.31uNomination(s):This post was nominated 2 times . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: Hugo de Naranja, and Pinoy-T-X
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03-05-17 09:02 AM #705
I posted about this in my quick write up of her. She never gets the wrong end of a position battle. But as good as she has looked in the scrambles I've never seen someone take the back the way she did. That was a thing of beauty! Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
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03-05-17 10:32 AM #706
I guess a knockdown was enough. I know it was boring as hell, but still pisses me off. I've been on the opposite side, and always get told well just because the guy did more damage doesn't mean he won. Now I adjust, and I take the guy who was just nickle and diming for points, and lose. So, what's the damn critique that they use to judge a fight? It doesn't seem like they have one. Originally Posted by Kermit
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03-05-17 10:33 AM #707
Sure was Originally Posted by Shagdogy
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03-05-17 10:59 AM #708
What does "by much" mean? There are rules in MMA - you win a round 10-9 or 10-8 or 10-7. None of the rounds was a 10-8. They were still using the old rules, where it is more difficult to get a 10-8 round, so there is absolutely impossible for the 5th round to have been a 10-8. Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe
Wonderboy won rounds 1, 2 and 4, simple as that. He hit Woodley more, pushed forward, had octagon control. Yea the whole stuff looked more like olympic fencing and not an actual fight but why hate the player, hate the game. The biggest joke is that the judge who gave the second round to Wonderboy gave a 10-8 round to Woodley.
Bashing Wonderboy is a bit useless IMO, when your background is point style karate and you go to MMA against a shorter, physically stronger guy who is far better on the ground than you are, then the only thing you could do is what he did, keep the distance and score. You will probably do close to zero damage unless he opens huge defensive gaps but that is your way to go for a win - it is MMA and not a street fight in your neighbourhood.
Woodley, on the other hand, was ludicrously timid in the rounds he lost. Being somewhat cautious is good, fighting the way your opponent wants you to fight is not.Last edited by Marillion; 03-05-17 at 11:02 AM.
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03-05-17 11:59 AM #709
Can't believe nobody said anything about Hunts performance. Going to the fence over and over again against a guy who loves to throw knees might have been the dumbest game-plan in the history of MMA. Was this the case of once again a Hunt that was out of shape? My goodness it didn't even look hard to spin out of everyone of those clinches. It was as bad as Uri taking those head beatins without spinning onto his back. For the main event technically it was a great chest game but comeon Joe it was brutal to watch. A solid fan realizes they are feeling each other out so u can let round one and half of round two go but not three straight rounds. I don't know how in the world anyone could give that to Wonderboy. I see where guys say he won three rounds but honestly nobody deserved that fight and if u have to i give it to someone I give it to Woodley who at least attempted to do something even thos it wasn't much either. I still can't get over Hunts ridiculous gameplan. Is it possible he was gassed again? You rock a guy three or four times than let him back u into the cage and sit there like a jackass and let him tee off knees to ur body and not trying to spin out of anything? Its not like Hunt isn't strong. The guy is strong as an ox. Oh and guys got to stop this fix nonsense. The fighters are not fixing shit. Judges fix things. Wonderboys eyes were almost rolling in the back of his head was that part of the fix?
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03-05-17 03:52 PM #710
Woodley chose a good walkout song.
I guess that's why they call him the chosyn 1.
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03-05-17 04:22 PM #711
I still can't believe what I saw with those Elkins and Alcantara comeback wins.. Still riding a high the next day
Elkiins was gashed, bloody face, getting dominated standing and on the ground, digs deep in the grappling exchanges late in the fight and turns it around.. Elkins was looking at Unanimous decision loss if he didn't get that late KO...
Alcantara, beat on the entire fight also, it was almost stopped several times.. Again Alcantara was beat up, losing on all cards and finds the knee bar to get the win in last round..
Those 2 fights were crazy!!!!
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03-05-17 04:27 PM #712
Ruff ruff!!! Originally Posted by JIBBBY
Woodley, Kelly, Elkins, Ferguson =
... El Cucuy would have won also just for the record.. ..
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03-05-17 05:24 PM #713
Originally Posted by JIBBBY
This is how I'm playing the entire card... GL to everyone and let's make some cash!!!
1) Soukhamtath straight
2) Craig Straight and by sub.
3) Godbeer by K0
4) Alcantara straight/ hedged Sanders KO (for profit both ways)
5) Elkins straight/by sub small also..
6) Henrique by sub/hedge Tybura by KO (for profit both ways)
7) Hunt by KO
8) Cavillo straight
9) Kelly straight, hedged Rashad Evans by Dec (just insurance)
10) Vanatta/Teymur under 2 rounds (even money)
11) T-wood straight and by KO..
This is how the card played out for me on 5dimes only - I couldn't hit anything to start this card off but caught wind and then it was all gravy.
Fight #1 - (Loss $100 - running total - $100)
$100.00 $120.00 Loss 3/4/17 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Andre Soukhamthath +120* vs Albert Morales
Fight #2 - (Loss $150 - running total -$250)
Had Craig by sub for $50 also and lost.. Can't find it..$100.00 $110.00 Loss 3/4/17 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1902 Paul Craig +110* vs Tyson Pedro
Fight #3 - (Loss $100 running total -$350)
$100.00 $120.00 Loss 3/4/17 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1833 Godbeer wins by TKO/KO +120* vs Any other result
Fight #4 (Win $190 running total - $160)
$200.00 $230.00 Win 3/4/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Iuri Alcantara +115* vs Luke Sanders
Hedge insurance only
$40.00 $209.60 Loss 3/4/17 9:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1733 Sanders wins by TKO/KO +524* vs Any other result
Fight #5 - (Win $411.70 running total + $261.70)
$80.30 $441.70 Win 3/4/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1601 Darren Elkins +550* vs Mirsad Bektic
$30.00 $645.00 Loss 3/4/17 9:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1627 Elkins wins by submission +2150* vs Any other result
Fight #6 - (Win $145 running total +$401.70)
$100.00 $195.00 Win 3/4/17 10:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1533 Tybura wins by TKO/KO +195* vs Any other result
Hedged
$50.00 $275.00 Loss 3/4/17 10:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1527 Henrique wins by submission +541* vs Any other result
Fight #7 - (Loss $100 running total + $301.70)
$100.00 $150.00 Loss 3/4/17 11:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1429 Hunt wins by TKO/KO +150* vs Any other result
Fight #8 - (Win $100 running total +$401.70)
$145.00 $100.00 Win 3/4/17 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Cynthia Calvillo -145* vs Amanda Cooper
Fight $9 - (Win $270 running total +$671.70)
$200.00 $390.00 Win 3/4/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1201 Daniel Kelly +195* vs Rashad Evans
hedged
$120.00 $212.40 Loss 3/4/17 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1211 Evans wins by 3 round decision +177* vs Not Evans by 3 round decision
Fight #10 - (Loss $200 running total +$470.70)
$100.00 $195.00 Loss 3/4/17 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1133 Vannata wins by TKO/KO +195* vs Any other result
$100.00 $160.00 Loss 3/4/17 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1101 David Teymur/Lando Vannata Under 1½ +160*
Fight #11 - (Win $480 running total final +$950.00)
$400.00 $580.00 Win 3/4/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1001 Tyron Woodley +145* vs Stephen Thompson
I did have Woodley by KO for $100 and lost that but can't find in my history on 5d right now..
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FINAL TOTAL + $950 on 5d
I'll take this win after a terrible start, hit Elkins and never looked back.. I hit for around $700 or so on all my other books as well on average.. (8 books). Walked away with around $6000 or so.. All good!!!
Last edited by JIBBBY; 03-05-17 at 06:28 PM.
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03-05-17 06:43 PM #714
Nice.
I didn't do as well as everyone else.
Didn't structure my plays correctly.
Mostly just hit my hedges, some straights and a few parlays if Gastelum and Barboza hit.
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Woodley winning broke up my big plays:
Killed my 37x, and my 17x parlays.
I had two more 10x hits and a 15x hit stacked on top of those two plays that would've gone through if Wonderboy won.
I'm glad things played out the way they did & to be honest I like Woodley. Always thought T-Wood was one of the smarter fighters in the UFC and MMA in general.
My fault for playing the card chicken style and not having the guts to make bigger plays on people I thought would win.Last edited by Sanity Check; 03-05-17 at 06:48 PM.
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03-05-17 07:11 PM #715
How'd you total up Hugo? Looks good at a glance but I can't do all that math. I still don't know how you guys keep all your plays straight with all the hedges and specific outcomes... I find it tough enough just to bet straight. Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
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03-05-17 07:18 PM #716
Up about 7 units overall. Live hedged a bit on Kelly and Teymur since I thought they could go the other way and I've been getting screwed on close decisions recently. Glad most of us did well on this event. Originally Posted by Shagdogy
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03-05-17 08:48 PM #717
Nice. Lots of + units all around. Good card. Too bad that title fight was trash. A classic fight there would have made this a really great card. Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
Up about 7 units overall. Live hedged a bit on Kelly and Teymur since I thought they could go the other way and I've been getting screwed on close decisions recently. Glad most of us did well on this event.Points Awarded:
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03-05-17 09:25 PM #718
I didn't think Wonderboy clearly won rounds 1, 2 and 4. They were all very close because neither fighter was doing much. I can see how you could give him all 3 rounds but I can also see a judge giving Woodley one of those rounds which decided the fight. Those 3 rounds were so lifeless with not much action that I didn't see those rounds clearly in Wonderboy favor. I saw him winning those rounds by 1 or 2 punches at the most, which means a ref may not have seen those punches. So I can see a judge saying it was a draw in rounds 1 and 4 and then giving Wonderboy round 2. Then Woodley won 3 and 5 much more decisively which won him the match. I do think round 5 was a 10-8 because a lot of refs would have granted a stoppage near the end when Wonderboy looked out on his feet with that huge punch. Originally Posted by Marillion
This type of fight with not much action is very hard to score. No clear winner for the majority of the rounds makes it very close. I had the fight a draw but who the hell wanted that? Both guys need to move on and step up their game next time because they disappointed a lot of people.
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03-06-17 04:35 AM #719
Well that title fight was like dancing with the stars so they should book them as couple for that show lol. Woodley clearly won 2 rounds and 3 were so close that while i think Wonderboy won those i agree Woodley won overall. Still let them book to dance together at dancing with the stars there people will expect that kinda crap!
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03-06-17 06:55 AM #720
Jibby that Elkins hit is sweeeeeet. Huuuge dog got it done.
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03-06-17 10:47 AM #721
Got cold feet and only bet $80 on 5d.. Should have bet my normal $100 or more.. Thanks though... Originally Posted by Sato
I love these cards where you just know a few dogs can land.. I hope we get more of these cards in the future!! I don't like those favorite heavy cards..
Elkins got a 50 grand bonus for the comeback...http://mmajunkie.com/2017/03/ufc-209...as-worth-50000
Last edited by JIBBBY; 03-06-17 at 11:08 AM.
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03-06-17 11:18 AM #722
PVZ vs. Woodley for WW title next. Maia will have to wait Originally Posted by slikec
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03-06-17 02:23 PM #723
Probably dodging a bullet is Maia because I don't think he can beat Woodley or take him down.. Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
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03-06-17 02:56 PM #724
sad but true.....
Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe
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03-06-17 02:57 PM #725
The Elkins win still has me BLOWN AWAY......its simply still unreal to me LOLL.
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03-06-17 02:57 PM #726
Tell that to Bektic....
Originally Posted by BIGDAY
WRASTLERS......
Rule.
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03-06-17 03:33 PM #727
and Luke Sanders, Rashad Evans, and Henrique also.. Originally Posted by PaperTrail07
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03-06-17 04:08 PM #728
Was making a joke that Paige Van Zant should fight Woodley next because of Slikec's Dancing With the Stars comment. Winner of Maia/Masvidal probably takes on Woodley. I agree that's the worst matchup for Maia. Wonderboy would have been an easy win for DM imo. Originally Posted by JIBBBY
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03-06-17 04:33 PM #729
LOL right.....KLB was the definition of lay and pray....
Originally Posted by JIBBBY
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03-06-17 04:42 PM #730
Oh I know, still Maia has his hands full with Masvidal but was just saying if Maia gets past Masvidal I don't think he can beat Woodley.. For Maia's sake I think he was hoping Wonderboy won that fight.. Probably the easier guy to take down.. Not the case.. Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja
I don't think Maia ever sees the UFC championship belt unfortunately.. Age is his biggest enemy right now though.. Hope he gets past Masvidal..
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03-06-17 04:44 PM #731
I was always super high on Masvidal's skills but in reality he has not done that much.....don't get caught up laying a buncha juice on his, that's for sure....Cowboy was a prefect matchup for him..
Originally Posted by JIBBBY
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03-06-17 04:45 PM #732
winDonald CerroneUFC on Fox 23 - Shevchenko vs. Pena
Jan / 28 / 2017TKO (Punches)
Herb Dean21:00winJake EllenbergerUFC - The Ultimate Fighter 24 Finale
Dec / 03 / 2016TKO (Punches)
Herb Dean14:05winRoss PearsonUFC 201 - Lawler vs. Woodley
Jul / 30 / 2016Decision (Unanimous)
Blake Grice35:00lossLorenz LarkinUFC Fight Night 88 - Almeida vs. Garbrandt
May / 29 / 2016Decision (Split)
Jason Herzog35:00lossBenson HendersonUFC Fight Night 79 - Henderson vs. Masvidal
Nov / 28 / 2015Decision (Split)
Herb Dean55:00winCezar FerreiraUFC - The Ultimate Fighter 21 Finale
Jul / 12 / 2015KO (Elbows and Punches)
John McCarthy14:22lossAl IaquintaUFC Fight Night 63 - Mendes vs. Lamas
Apr / 04 / 2015Decision (Split)
Keith Peterson35:00
Read more at http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jorge...TdZpOEGVrvx.99
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03-06-17 05:57 PM #733
I feel the exact same way. Originally Posted by PaperTrail07
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03-06-17 09:22 PM #734
Yup. Agree with you all on this... Masvidal's matchup with Cowboy was perfect for his skill set. Against Maia? Different beast. The whole fight comes down to takedown defense which hasn't worked well for anyone at 170. Originally Posted by PaperTrail07
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03-06-17 10:12 PM #735
Fellas ^^^^ Masvidal turned a corner lately, clearly upped his output in recent fights and you can see now he doesn't want to lose split decisions anymore.. Masvidal is a more aggressive fighter these days, seems like he's on mission.. Probably peaking.. Maia is the same just older. Completely different styles..
Fight stays standing Maia gets ruined, Maia gets the take downs his fight to win.. Gonna go one way or the other.. Like I said before I think Maia gets the takedowns on Masivdal.. Gonna be fun to see if he can hold down Masvidal and maybe work in a submission..
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