[mirinquads]

Pipe down JJgold.

[Thor4140]

Those of u doubting me for saying he is not top 25 all time, why dont you go to boxing.com and look at their list top 100 boxers in history. Then go to espn.com then bleacher report. Find him in the top 25 please. If i know he is not top 25 then they know it too. Do u guys realize that there are so many guys in history who were great fighters who lost at least 5 fights in their careers? Do u understand that going undefeated doesntmake u great just like losing doesnt mean u are not great.

Go find a reputable site that ranks him top 25 in history and for every site u find i will show u 3-4 sites who do not.

learn boxing then come talk to me.

my thought on thetop 25 was his weight classes not every weight class

[homie1975]

my thought on thetop 25 was his weight classes not every weight class

Thor i like you as a poster and respect you but that's bullsheet. of course i was talking every weight class.

when you make a list of greatest nba players, you do so regardless of position (jordan as a guard, wilt was a center, russell a center, etc etc)

when you talk fighters you do the same thing. you rank them regardless of weight class.


you can search the internet up and down and you will be hard pressed to find a single reputable website that ranks him top 25.

i am not basing my opinion on that, i am basing my opinion on over 30 yrs watching the fight game closely AND my historical knowledge going back to jack johnson in the early 1900s

[jtoler]

Still waiting on prime HOF caliber fighters he ducked while at same weight.

[homie1975]

Still waiting on prime HOF caliber fighters he ducked while at same weight.

he's been ducking pacquiao for north of 5 years. He ducked mosley til mosley was a corpse. Same with de la hoya. Why do u think arum split from him. He could have gone up or down in weight to make fights happen like so many greats have like manny, dlh, trinidad, hopkins and on and on and on.

If u dont think he carefully handpicks opponents while ducking the greats in their prime, then u dont deserve to talk boxing with me.

[Thor4140]

Thor i like you as a poster and respect you but that's bullsheet. of course i was talking every weight class.

when you make a list of greatest nba players, you do so regardless of position (jordan as a guard, wilt was a center, russell a center, etc etc)

when you talk fighters you do the same thing. you rank them regardless of weight class.


you can search the internet up and down and you will be hard pressed to find a single reputable website that ranks him top 25.

i am not basing my opinion on that, i am basing my opinion on over 30 yrs watching the fight game closely AND my historical knowledge going back to jack johnson in the early 1900s

No bullshit If someone said Tyson was top twenty i would think they meant top twenty heavyweights. That is what i thought with the Mayweather quote.

[dfish]

he's been ducking pacquiao for north of 5 years. He ducked mosley til mosley was a corpse. Same with de la hoya. Why do u think arum split from him. He could have gone up or down in weight to make fights happen like so many greats have like manny, dlh, trinidad, hopkins and on and on and on.

If u dont think he carefully handpicks opponents while ducking the greats in their prime, then u dont deserve to talk boxing with me.

Agree, I think he did move up to fight Arturo but by then Thunder wasn't the same.

[homie1975]

Agree, I think he did move up to fight Arturo but by then Thunder wasn't the same.

It was gattis 6th loss and he 9 Np 6 fought 3 more times losing twice incl to Carlos baldomir for crying out loud

[dfish]

Yes that's my point , he never would have fought Arturo before Ward trilogy .

[jjgold]

How about that Terry Norris ???

[dfish]

How about that Terry Norris ???

He lost to Rosenblatt , the pride of Malden Mass.
Fish was there !
You should be the boxing mod pal

[jjgold]

Fisher I am smarter than I look

Even Quincy Taylor was tough

Norris was a tough fuk..even his brother was
incredible athlete

[dfish]

[jjgold]

fisher here is an epic Norris Story..its all true

go look it up

He was an incredible baseball player in HS..many scholarships until a racial brawl on field and he put 3 guys in the hospital

[jtoler]

he's been ducking pacquiao for north of 5 years. He ducked mosley til mosley was a corpse. Same with de la hoya. Why do u think arum split from him. He could have gone up or down in weight to make fights happen like so many greats have like manny, dlh, trinidad, hopkins and on and on and on.

If u dont think he carefully handpicks opponents while ducking the greats in their prime, then u dont deserve to talk boxing with me.

You're funny. They box to eat not bragging rights so fans can have their fill, I can a hundred fights I wish I could have seen but I understand.

[dfish]

Yes, will do
So many dark stories with this sport but I belive he is doing better then most.
Great thread

[homie1975]

You're funny. They box to eat not bragging rights so fans can have their fill, I can a hundred fights I wish I could have seen but I understand.

No superstar boxer in recent history as in the past 30 yrs has ducked so many opponents and at the same no dude has been as cocky as mayweather since ali. At least ali fought all comers. Mayweather will be very disappointed to know how tarnished his legacy is when he retires

[jjgold]

Sugar Ray Leonard was the master of ducking guys in their prime

[homie1975]

Sugar Ray Leonard was the master of ducking guys in their prime

Come on coach u don t believe that

[The HOFF]

Mayweather is one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time. He is not, however, one of the greatest of all time.

[raydog]

plenty of good to very good boxers even some great ones the past 20 yrs. floyd was a master at DUCKING them in their prime. he waited till they were all old. or he fought guys like canelo way too early (canelo was only 22)

lolz... he is 37 now and past his own prime.. how many more years do you want him to age before fighting people? he is older than paq, ffs...

nobody cares about the top 25 or 50 lists...they are loaded with many of those early/mid century guys who would get absolutely curb stomped by guys from the last 30-40 years.. you hate mayweather, we get it, but your opinion of him is as off as your opinion of fsu football was... and that was waaaaaaaaaaaaay off buddy

[homie1975]

lolz... he is 37 now and past his own prime.. how many more years do you want him to age before fighting people? he is older than paq, ffs...

nobody cares about the top 25 or 50 lists...they are loaded with many of those early/mid century guys who would get absolutely curb stomped by guys from the last 30-40 years.. you hate mayweather, we get it, but your opinion of him is as off as your opinion of fsu football was... and that was waaaaaaaaaaaaay off buddy

What about my opinion of OHIO STATE plus the points vs Bama AND Oregon. two straight up underdog winners.

my college football analysis was spot on

go look up all of my posted college football since i started posting 2013

64% posted ATS

i'm a motherfukking killer

[raydog]

lolz... i dont remember your analysis involving a team you ml bet, losing by 40, but nice deflection... if you knew half as much about boxing as you thought, i would consider your opinion... as it is, its just hate for the guy.. goodluck betting against him

[homie1975]

lolz... i dont remember your analysis involving a team you ml bet, losing by 40, but nice deflection... if you knew half as much about boxing as you thought, i would consider your opinion... as it is, its just hate for the guy.. goodluck betting against him

Ive never once bet against mayweather. I've bet on him 7 times and won all 7 obviously. I bet on him because I know he hand picks his opponents who have no strengths that can concern him.

I've said at least twice in this thread that he's a tremendous talent. The fact remains that he avoids the toughest competition in their prime. It's a fact and its why he's so disliked by boxing fanatics like myself

[jjgold]

Bottom line of the thread Mayweather would have many loses in The Sugar Ray era just way too many good and strong fighters

The black man boxed more in those days and of course as we all now are 10000x stronger than white or Hispanic fighters

[Swaggy P]

Roberto "hands of stone" Durant would ktfo mayweather.

[jjgold]

Swaggy of course..they were all killers like 8 of them

[LT Profits]

Chris Mannix ✔ @ChrisMannixSI Follow Two sources say Pacquiao, Mayweather sides are still slogging through lingering issues. No timetable, just say that no deal completed.
3:11 PM - 14 Feb 2015

Chris Mannix ✔ @ChrisMannixSI Follow There continues to be cautious optimism that a deal gets done. But we have been down this road before: It isn't done until it's done.
3:12 PM - 14 Feb 2015


SiriusXM Boxing @SiriusXMBoxing Follow As per @stephenasmith, if @FloydMayweather-@MannyPacquiao is not announced by Sunday, it won't happen anytime soon. #boxing
7:22 PM - 13 Feb 2015

[eidolon]

homie1975....What do you think the line will be if Mayweather and Pacquiao fight? Who do you think would win?

[LT Profits]

homie1975....What do you think the line will be if Mayweather and Pacquiao fight? Who do you think would win?

Mayweather -300
Pacquiao +240

[jjgold]

Pacquiao is not allowed to win

Why… Because they're going to fight twice

And both retire

[eidolon]

Mayweather -300
Pacquiao +240

I just wanted to see what home1975 had to say. I'm actually surprised by that line.
The last couple of months i have been posting lines on sports sites, usually at -200 and people thought that was ridiculous

[LT Profits]

I just wanted to see what home1975 had to say. I'm actually surprised by that line.
The last couple of months i have been posting lines on sports sites, usually at -200 and people thought that was ridiculous

Line has been up for about two weeks on 5 Dimes, it may have opened smaller but line above is current. Not sure what date stipulation is, it does not say, instead listing fight as May 2nd as if it is done deal (which it is not).

[jjgold]

If the fight happens load up on Mayweather

[homie1975]

I just wanted to see what home1975 had to say. I'm actually surprised by that line.
The last couple of months i have been posting lines on sports sites, usually at -200 and people thought that was ridiculous

If if if the fight is made I will post a pick.

If they had fought in 2010 or 2011 I would've taken pacquiao straight up. No question in my.mind. but his skills have deteriorated which is why mayweather 'appears' ready to take the fight now.

Does that last line sound familiar? ?

Mayweather the duck