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    Interesting article by larry brown on how Arum fixed Pacman fight!!

    Corruption has been a part of boxing as long as the sport has been around. Whether it was the mob telling one fighter to take a dive in the 5th, or a promoter paying off the judges to score the bout in favor of his boxer, the fix has been in for years. Last Saturday in Las Vegas, there is no doubt the fix was in. There was not one person who saw the Manny Pacquiao-Timothy Bradley fight and thought Bradley won. Nobody is debating who won it. There isn’t some magical judging system in boxing that the common man doesn’t understand that resulted in two judges scoring the fight in favor of Bradley while nobody else even thought he was close. Pacquiao won the fight decisively, and even Bradley wasn’t convinced he’d won.
    It seems clear the fight was fixed so that a decision would favor Bradley. Let’s go over how and why that happened by examining each character involved and their motivations.
    Bob Arum, Top Rank: Arum has been involved with boxing since the ’60s and is one of the two biggest promoters in the sport (Oscar De La Hoya’s Golden Boy is the other). He represents many of the top fighters, but his prized fighter is Manny Pacquiao.
    Since Pacquiao became a megastar after beating Oscar De La Hoya in 2008 and Ricky Hatton in 2009, Bob Arum has handled the Filipino’s fight schedule carefully. And by carefully, we mean he arranged it so that it benefited him the most.
    Five of Pacquiao’s last six opponents have been fighters also promoted by Bob Arum. The only one who wasn’t — Shane Mosley — cut ties with Golden Boy and surrendered an ownership stake in the company just so he could take the Pacquiao fight. Considering he signed to terms dictated by Top Rank, you may as well make it six of the last six. That means Arum has cleaned up on all sides of the revenue (gate, pay-per-view) without splitting it with another company, similar to a real estate agent representing both the buyer and the seller.
    What’s the point? Ever since Pacquiao became a cash cow who is popular worldwide, packs stadiums, and delivers a million pay-per-view buys, Arum hogged him. Arum knew he had one of the only superstars in boxing (Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the other), and he wouldn’t share his biggest asset with anyone. He could arrange fights against guys like Joshua Clottey and Shane Mosley — both of whom had no chance of beating Pacquiao — and clean up on the earnings just because Pac Man has such a huge fan base. Arum knew that Pacquiao’s fans would pay to watch him box a middle school child, so he capitalized on it.
    Arum has been raking in the dough the past few years thanks to Pacquiao, but he knew the only thing that could kill his golden goose was retirement, and that has been creeping up.
    Thanks to a combination of his age (33), new religious interests, and a career in politics, Pacquiao has been talking about retirement lately. Knowing that Pacquiao only has a few fights left — if that — Arum had to work quickly to develop his next star. He needed to use Pacquiao’s popularity to vault a new fighter into the mainstream. Timothy Bradley became that guy.
    I think Arum paid off the judges to score the fight in favor of Bradley so that a rematch could take place.
    It’s in Arum’s interest to have a controversy because it a) makes Bradley well known and b) creates more interest in a rematch between the two. Remember that Arum promotes both fighters, so he’ll be raking in the money with a rematch.
    While he’s sitting there bashing the judges, Arum is privately happy with the outcome. How does he lose here?
    And don’t tell me that the loss hurts Manny Pacquiao’s chances of fighting Floyd Mayweather. One, the fight was never going to happen anyway (Arum has been one of the biggest impediments since he and Mayweather hate each other). Two, the public demand for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight hasn’t diminished. It can still happen if Arum wants it to, but he doesn’t.
    Arum was running out of opponents for Pacquiao, and he was running out of time to milk his superstar — why not create a rematch? It’s rather brilliant, if you think about it.
    Manny Pacquiao: One of the two superstars in boxing. Only he and Floyd Mayweather Jr. can generate worldwide buzz and pay-per-view buys for fights. His weakness is that he’s bad with money. He has an entourage of hundreds and pays them all handsomely. He also has had tons of tax problems in the United States, was sued by his former money managers for not paying their fees, and he filed a countersuit against them alleging that they messed up his taxes. ESPN’s Dan Rafael even reported last week that Pacquiao has taken seven-figure advances from Bob Arum prior to fights to pay off all his debts (h/t BSO):
    Besides the womanizing, there was smoking, drinking, heavy gambling — which caused him to take seven-figure advances before recent fights from Top Rank promoter Bob Arum in order to pay his debts — and partying nights away while trying to also balance boxing and his political career.
    So Pacquiao needed money from Arum, and thus was indebted to him. What if Arum told him that for the Bradley fight, Manny could look great, but the judges would rule against him, setting up a rematch that would produce tons of money and get Manny his championship belts back? That doesn’t sound like a bad scenario for Manny, does it?
    The public saw the fight and knows Pac Man beat Bradley, so he has sympathy on his side. He also already had 3 career losses, so it’s not like he had a perfect record to protect like Mayweather, and his spot in the pound-for-pound rankings and Boxing Hall of Fame is unchanged. What’s to lose? Both he and Arum make tons of money this way, and it’s not like Pacquiao’s image or credibility takes a hit — he looks like a good guy and victim in all of this.
    Timothy Bradley: Although undefeated, he was virtually unknown prior to this fight. After beating Devon Alexander in January 2011, he had an offer to fight Amir Khan for over a million dollars but turned it down — twice. He also left his promoter after the Alexander fight. Now why would he do that? Maybe because he was promised a shot at Manny Pacquiao and the millions that come with it.
    Bradley signed with Top Rank last September and fought against Joel Casamayor (another Top Rank fighter) on the undercard of Manny Pacquiao’s fight with Juan Manuel Marquez in November. And guess what? His next fight was against Pac Man. Bradley was in it to make millions on Pacquiao’s coattails. Winning was just a bonus.
    Don’t think he knew what was up? As The Big Lead pointed out, on May 29 — 11 days before Saturday’s fight — Bradley tweeted a picture of the poster promoting a November rematch against Pacquiao.
    Shady much? You bet.
    Everyone’s motivation in this entire situation is the same thing: money. It’s the reason why Arum only has Pacquiao fight Top Rank fighters, it’s why Manny’s had problems, and it’s why Bradley left his promoter and turned down other fights. Everyone is hungry for money. And I believe some judges were too.
    Is this a conspiracy theory? Maybe. I just know that Manny Pacquiao beat Timothy Bradley easily yet was screwed on a decision, and everyone kept talking about rematch immediately afterward.
    Have a better explanation? I’d like to hear it.

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    good thing i never touched boxing... it would suck to get analled on a wager like that...

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    Funny how no one even mentions how the trainers for Bradley just kept saying "We are winning, just a couple more rounds to go"

    Its too fukkn obvious no matter how you cut it. Too bad this result is written in stone.

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    Wow, this is by far the best article I've read so far on this disgrace of a decision. Thanks for sharing

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    great read. I am currently mulling over the fact that Bradley tweeted the poster for the rematch weeks ago allegedly. When I first started seeing the images floating around online I just assumed they were fakes but apparently not.

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    supposedly that rematch poster was circulating pre-fight

    did anyone see it

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    Bradley showed the poster at a press-conference to show his confidence that he would win the fight and given that it's Pac, it would need a rematch. Dunno what to make of that now though, at the time just thought it was a stupid publicity stunt.

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    Interesting.

    But I heard if you watch the fight with the TV muted, Bradley wins more rounds.

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    I dont think Manny is broke...

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    one thing to notice from the poster

    it says TICKETS ON SALE JUNE 10TH, which just so happened to be the day after the fight and they aren't on sale yet

    so perhaps the fix was in, and this is a good article, but the poster doesn't mean anything

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    I have no doubt mayweather paid off the refs

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    Quote Originally Posted by YorkHunt View Post
    Funny how no one even mentions how the trainers for Bradley just kept saying "We are winning, just a couple more rounds to go"

    Its too fukkn obvious no matter how you cut it. Too bad this result is written in stone.
    I pointed this out to a friend in the 12th. I had Manny in a shutout and this goofball is talking about they're going to make history.

    But a pointless article IMO. We'll never know who was involved for sure, or how it was orchestrated. We can only speculate, and I believe there was knowledge and cooperation on all 3 sides. They thought the public was stupid and it backfired. And what a shame. All this time I've continued to support boxing. Including Manny and Bob Arum at times. Never again. I hope they live to regret that when their future PPV's bomb.

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    Money talks. If the public really wants to make a statement then they should by not purchasing anything that has to do with the rematch. Whenever fraud like this occurs money is the motive. By not financially supporting their scam will impact future decisions regarding activities like rigging, match fixing how ever it manifests itself. Let them know that the public has had enough of the scams and let them know the public isn't as dumb as they think they are.

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    That poster looks photoshopped in for what its worth. I'm done with boxing. Been dead for years anyways and this was the final nail.

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    refs can do whatever they want? so can i. fuk betting on boxing.

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    i do NOT remember the trainers telling bradley he was winning the whole time? I remember them asking in the 9th or 10th if they should end it, and no it was not one of those motivational type should we end it, it was serious.

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    BTW there may not even be a rematch because ticket brokers arent sure they want to sell the tickets since this fight didnt even sell out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGRandyJackson View Post
    BTW there may not even be a rematch because ticket brokers arent sure they want to sell the tickets since this fight didnt even sell out.
    might not be a rematch?


    i think the 1.4 million ppv buys at $65 each are worth a heck of a lot more than the gate receipts

    hmm... walk away from $90 million in pay per view money because you might be concerned about only getting $10 million instead of $11 million in live gate receipts

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGRandyJackson View Post
    i do NOT remember the trainers telling bradley he was winning the whole time? I remember them asking in the 9th or 10th if they should end it, and no it was not one of those motivational type should we end it, it was serious.
    Bradley was asked if he was okay to continue a few times. Not because he was getting his ass handed to him, but because his foot was obviously bothering him.

    But he was definitely being told that he was ahead by his trainer. At least once from what I remember. Several times the trainer said things like "x more rounds to go". I assumed they were just trying to see the final bell. But then I definitely picked up "1 more round to go and we're going to make history" going into the 12th. Which was laughable until I heard "115-113, Pacquiao..." I knew something was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iQon View Post
    Bradley was asked if he was okay to continue a few times. Not because he was getting his ass handed to him, but because his foot was obviously bothering him.

    But he was definitely being told that he was ahead by his trainer. At least once from what I remember. Several times the trainer said things like "x more rounds to go". I assumed they were just trying to see the final bell. But then I definitely picked up "1 more round to go and we're going to make history" going into the 12th. Which was laughable until I heard "115-113, Pacquiao..." I knew something was wrong.
    would have been historic if pacquiao unintentionally tko'd bradley final round, how will arum pull off this shit then with those corrupt refs


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    So come November, what's the bet then? Do we go all out on Manny, or is there another swerve in the making and Bradley wins once again? Like the article states, Arum is looking for his next big star. This fixed defeat has already created a buzz for Bradley, think about how much more powerful Bradley would look in the eyes of the average Joe for defeating Manny twice in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    might not be a rematch?


    i think the 1.4 million ppv buys at $65 each are worth a heck of a lot more than the gate receipts

    hmm... walk away from $90 million in pay per view money because you might be concerned about only getting $10 million instead of $11 million in live gate receipts
    Hey Im just saying what the news is saying. Im def with you on this.

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    I won't bet $1 on an Arum fight again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    Money talks. If the public really wants to make a statement then they should by not purchasing anything that has to do with the rematch. Whenever fraud like this occurs money is the motive. By not financially supporting their scam will impact future decisions regarding activities like rigging, match fixing how ever it manifests itself. Let them know that the public has had enough of the scams and let them know the public isn't as dumb as they think they are.
    Spot on Post! Just say no to the rematch.

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    Debating and speculating on whether or not this was a fixed fight is like arguing whether or not the earth is round or flat. I don't know what all the hubbub is about. It was a boxing match and it was fixed. Next.
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    I was waiting for a match like this... who was the last heavy favorite to go down?? Wasn't it Tyson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dom75 View Post
    So come November, what's the bet then? Do we go all out on Manny, or is there another swerve in the making and Bradley wins once again? Like the article states, Arum is looking for his next big star. This fixed defeat has already created a buzz for Bradley, think about how much more powerful Bradley would look in the eyes of the average Joe for defeating Manny twice in a row.
    depends.....november is awfully close to the end of the year...which is when pacs contract is up with top rank i believe.....so if he hasnt reupped....then all bets are off.....if he has....hes easy money

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