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BIGDAY · 03-31-11 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by MMAdisciple

He's a turtle, not a crock!

lol, Edited.

thesox0311 · 03-31-11 11:02 AM

That fight was terrible, he was like the untalented fitch

daimoshokage · 03-31-11 11:36 AM

scary coach..

William Walters · 03-31-11 02:49 PM

Anybody watch "UFC Unleashed" that came on right after "Ultimate Fighter" ended? They showed the Jan/2010 fight between Frankie Edgar and Gray Maynard. GREAT FIGHT! Watching Frankie somehow survive that first round beating was amazing!

Vaughany · 03-31-11 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by William Walters

Anybody watch "UFC Unleashed" that came on right after "Ultimate Fighter" ended? They showed the Jan/2010 fight between Frankie Edgar and Gray Maynard. GREAT FIGHT! Watching Frankie somehow survive that first round beating was amazing!

Jan 2010, the fight was like 2 months ago?

Chairib · 03-31-11 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by MMAdisciple

Yeah it's not like he's a former NCAA D1 wrestler who went 106-5 over 4 years, not like he's a former UFC champ that actually defended the belt a few times. What a waste...shoulda got Pat Barry to coach against JDS.

But really, the guy is a "coach" on the show, not a "trainer", he will have trainers for that. I think he'll make a good coach as well, he's a mental giant.

Great so he's a D-1 wrestler who went 106-5 over 4 years and a former champ, I heard Dos Santos has a 12 inch rooster. And they all carry as much importance to the discussion when we are talking about training for MMA. If your fanboy repetition of his accolades somehow meant the fighters in his camp would all be guaranteed a win, then I'd granted it some relevance. Too bad it doesn't.

The head coach, is the lead TRAINER you dipshit. He is the one who sets down what they're going to learn in terms of fundamentals, ie striking, wrestling, grappling, and conditioning. How they're going to learn it with specific training of techniques. And since he's the guy who has to put it all together in one coherent strategy or gameplan suited for each individual fighter on his team which is developed through and implemented through live sparring. It's crucial that his knows his shit.

You think Brock Lesnar is capable of doing what I just described? No he isn't, because the guy is a retard. And if he was you would have seen a much more balanced development in his own MMA style. Brock is a tremendous wrestler but outside of takedowns, his primary advantage is in his physical size. How the hell are you supposed to teach size? You can't.

His dependence on his size makes him one dimensional, with little apparent development to the rest of his MMA game. This is a classic sign of someone who either doesn't grasp the bigger picture or refuses to put in the work. Million dollar body but a ten cent head.

His striking is a joke, it's the one particular weakness in his game that has been obvious from day one. And it's one of the many things that he hasn't not worked on. He's still scared of getting hit and that's a trait of someone who doesn't spar, and who hasn't put in the ring time to work things out. It's probably just work with focus mits but that'll only take you so far. Against a live opponent, pad work just doesn't cut it since you don't have anyone who can strike back at you. So things like defensive footwork, head movement, and hands are never developed. Look at what he does when he gets hit, he closes his eyes, drops his hands, and runs away.

And where's his groundgame? Oh that's right, it's non existent too, other than laying on someone in their half-guard or subbing a guy who is having an asthma attack. There is no groundgame and everything I've seen up til this point shows me only a little understanding of even some of the basic mechanics. He took Cain down but he didn't know what to do there or even how to keep him there. And you could clearly tell in that fight when once that happened, his entire gameplan went out the window.

And don't even get me started on how shitty his conditioning is, dude was sucking wind a couple of minutes into the fight with Cain.

I hope for the sake of those guys in his team that he was able to get some good trainers. Though, who the hell does he even know? So I hope that the UFC was able to get some trainers for him, because they will have to depend on those guys a lot. That shithead isn't going to teach them ANYTHING and whatever success they have will be in spite of him, not because of him.

It might even become a Ken Shamrock type situation where his entire team turned on him halfway through the season. I don't think anything can be that bad, but that can happen when you put a guy in charge who has a big ego and little knowledge. All the yelling and screaming in the world won't get you anywhere because fighters will just start shutting you out.

William Walters · 03-31-11 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Vaughany

Jan 2010, the fight was like 2 months ago?

Typo dude........Jan/2011.

MMAdisciple · 03-31-11 07:32 PM