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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    They are worth looking into especially if you bet live.
    Raiders did they offer discount lines on NBA regular season live betting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookie View Post
    SBR rates Betcoin C+.
    Sbr ratings of bitcoins books is way off outdated and incomplete....betcoin is solid B/B+ book good live options fast payouts..its just odds are not as good as Fairlay period...if u can get -102 @ fairlay or -108 @ betcoin which would u choose...now if you like to parlay and poker nitro betcoin are great...i reccomend all 3 highly and are only btc held books id use

    Sbr has Cloudbet is rated B my grade is D stay away
    Sbr has Jetwin C+ why is it even on list? Should be D or lower since sports book been down all year last i checked
    Fairlay not on list and its second most popular btc book amongst sbr forum players easy B book
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    Kona or Raiders usually how long do payouts take at betcoin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cornmeal View Post
    Kona or Raiders usually how long do payouts take at betcoin?
    mine are sometimes a little longer since they review as I play poker normally a few hours sometimes longer but I hear faster more like Nitro if you just do sports only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    mine are sometimes a little longer since they review as I play poker normally a few hours sometimes longer but I hear faster more like Nitro if you just do sports only...
    Betcoin is the only book I’ve dealt with that ALWAYS takes longer than their posted timeframes. They say within 12 hours but mine were always processed 24-36 hours later. I would throw an absolute fit and they would say “we’ve been in business for years how can u say were bad blah blah blah”

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    Quote Originally Posted by cornmeal View Post
    Kona or Raiders usually how long do payouts take at betcoin?
    normally within 15 minutes and I've made many withdrawals. It takes longer for poker players. The same may occur on the first withdrawal.
    Last edited by raiders72001; 05-31-19 at 09:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglesfan371 View Post
    Betcoin is the only book I’ve dealt with that ALWAYS takes longer than their posted timeframes. They say within 12 hours but mine were always processed 24-36 hours later. I would throw an absolute fit and they would say “we’ve been in business for years how can u say were bad blah blah blah”
    Not trying to discredit what you are saying about Betcoin since you have a lot of bitcoin experience and there were delays in the past, but it seems as though your posts on Betcoin go back a year or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    Sbr ratings of bitcoins books is way off outdated and incomplete....betcoin is solid B/B+ book good live options fast payouts..its just odds are not as good as Fairlay period...if u can get -102 @ fairlay or -108 @ betcoin which would u choose...now if you like to parlay and poker nitro betcoin are great...i reccomend all 3 highly and are only btc held books id use

    Sbr has Cloudbet is rated B my grade is D stay away
    Sbr has Jetwin C+ why is it even on list? Should be D or lower since sports book been down all year last i checked
    Fairlay not on list and its second most popular btc book amongst sbr forum players easy B book
    I like your recommendations and ratings.

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    Much appreciated guys

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    How is live betting on Fairlay? Is there much liquidity on live MLB, and liquidity overall for in play betting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    normally within 15 minutes and I've made many withdrawals. It takes longer for poker players. The same may occur on the first withdrawal.
    I agree, always had them faster than nitro; though hated their Sportsbook after it went down for 6+ months in 2016/2017 if memory serves

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    I just signed up at this site. Like others I find it pretty confusing, but I have to admit I’ve never used an exchange.

    But the high limits are intriguing. I want to get a bet down on a golfer to win the US open and the limit says you can risk roughly 500 mBTC or .5 BTC. Is this correct?

    Nitro for example has a .033 limit on odds to win the same tourney.

    If I place the bet for the amount I choose, say 200 mBTC risked, does the bet get locked in at the offered odds right away?

    Or is it like horse racing where my odds can go up or down? Or does someone have to accept my bet (basically betting against me before it’s locked in)?

    So in essence if I risk 200 mBTC on my golfer to win about 10 times that is there a chance the bet never gets action and my money is stuck there with nothing I really want to bet on?

    And if I happen to win, is this book safe with what would amount to about 20k in there (I would cash out right away).

    Any info/advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    I just signed up at this site. Like others I find it pretty confusing, but I have to admit I’ve never used an exchange.

    But the high limits are intriguing. I want to get a bet down on a golfer to win the US open and the limit says you can risk roughly 500 mBTC or .5 BTC. Is this correct?

    Nitro for example has a .033 limit on odds to win the same tourney.

    If I place the bet for the amount I choose, say 200 mBTC risked, does the bet get locked in at the offered odds right away?

    Or is it like horse racing where my odds can go up or down? Or does someone have to accept my bet (basically betting against me before it’s locked in)?

    So in essence if I risk 200 mBTC on my golfer to win about 10 times that is there a chance the bet never gets action and my money is stuck there with nothing I really want to bet on?

    And if I happen to win, is this book safe with what would amount to about 20k in there (I would cash out right away).

    Any info/advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks
    If you click on the offered odds, then up to the amount of dollars shown on offer is matched and locked in at those odds instantly.

    If you put up an offer for your 200mBTC at better odds, that will be shown in the queue behind the current odds. It stays there until you click cancel or other people accept your total offer.

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    Thanks Opti. Can those limits be correct? Able to risk Up to 500 mBTC on a single golfer to win with a potential payout of 5 BTC??

    And would they pay that amount in full pretty quick if I won?

    Nitro by comparison would let me only risk .033 to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    Thanks Opti. Can those limits be correct? Able to risk Up to 500 mBTC on a single golfer to win with a potential payout of 5 BTC??

    And would they pay that amount in full pretty quick if I won?

    Nitro by comparison would let me only risk .033 to win.
    I can't speak to that specific limit, but if you think about it, it makes sense that Fairlay's limits would be a lot higher than a traditional sportsbook. At Fairlay, or any exchange for that matter, you are not betting against the house - you are betting against other idiots like you and me. And your winnings are 100% backed by those matched bets. In fact, since Fairly works on commission, taking a rake from every winning wager, they should actually want you to win as much as possible. The incentives are flipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    Thanks Opti. Can those limits be correct? Able to risk Up to 500 mBTC on a single golfer to win with a potential payout of 5 BTC??

    And would they pay that amount in full pretty quick if I won?

    Nitro by comparison would let me only risk .033 to win.
    I suggest you set your account in setting to "taker" setting so matches Instantly only "Maker/taker" will allow you to save bets at your offered odds but I find that a bit more advanced until u get more used to exchange....Also many times say 100mbtc is offered at 2.0 if you try to match 500mbtc @ 2.0 sometimes it will accept more the the 100mbtc that is available plus then esp on major events it resets sometimes same price or it may change esp if you hit it good like pinny does

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    I did notice the deposit address to deposit into Fairlay is a mBTC address. If I send BTC from my Gemini account would it allow me to send to that Fairlay address, and Fairlay would just convert it into mBTC upon receipt?

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    It says mbtc but it’s just a btc as there is no such thing as mbtc address....mbtc is btc.....they convert auto so 1000 mbtc is 1 btc

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    I can't speak to that specific limit, but if you think about it, it makes sense that Fairlay's limits would be a lot higher than a traditional sportsbook. At Fairlay, or any exchange for that matter, you are not betting against the house - you are betting against other idiots like you and me. And your winnings are 100% backed by those matched bets. In fact, since Fairly works on commission, taking a rake from every winning wager, they should actually want you to win as much as possible. The incentives are flipped.
    The markets are seeded so it's the same as betting with a sportsbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    I did notice the deposit address to deposit into Fairlay is a mBTC address. If I send BTC from my Gemini account would it allow me to send to that Fairlay address, and Fairlay would just convert it into mBTC upon receipt?

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    fking idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    The markets are seeded so it's the same as betting with a sportsbook.
    Do you bet there? I'm curious how much liquidity they have now. I left during the bear market and while they offered good odds and seamless withdrawals, it was obvious just about every single matched bet was by the market maker. I couldn't understand why they weren't more popular than say, Nitrogen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    fking idiot
    One of the beautiful things about a forum is that there are people at all levels of experience here. Crypto currencies are complicated, especially at first. And there are now different types of BTC. So not understanding that this just happens to be a unit naming thing seems like a pretty easy mistake to make for newbie.

    So...like...maybe let people ask what they need to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    The markets are seeded so it's the same as betting with a sportsbook.


    10000000000% correct just like Matchbook

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookie View Post
    One of the beautiful things about a forum is that there are people at all levels of experience here. Crypto currencies are complicated, especially at first. And there are now different types of BTC. So not understanding that this just happens to be a unit naming thing seems like a pretty easy mistake to make for newbie.

    So...like...maybe let people ask what they need to ask.
    I get all that. I'm just giving that clueless idiot a taste of his own medicine is all. Sorry if that offended you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    I get all that. I'm just giving that clueless idiot a taste of his own medicine is all. Sorry if that offended you.
    Dude, I replied to one of your posts a few weeks back saying I thought your statement that the Warriors were better without KD was idiotic. You don’t have to troll every forum I post in because your feelings got hurt. However, if that’s your thing and it makes you feel better have at it. It doesn’t bother me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    Dude, I replied to one of your posts a few weeks back saying I thought your statement that the Warriors were better without KD was idiotic. You don’t have to troll every forum I post in because your feelings got hurt. However, if that’s your thing and it makes you feel better have at it. It doesn’t bother me.
    Every forum

    Dude, you don't own every forum you post in. I happen to post in them too.

    If I trolled every single idiotic post you made, this entire forum would be littered with troll posts from me.

    If I come across an especially idiotic post by you, I'll let you know just how much of an idiot you are, that's all. It doesn't bother me either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Just joined and deposited here.Is there a simpler way to set this up?Or any way to format this differently?As of now, it is so annoying having to scroll through dozens of bubble pictures to find a matchup.Even if I narrow it down to say Mariners/Baseball/MLB/Overunder/Full Time, I still have to scroll through every single player prop just to find a full game total.Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated.
    Quote Originally Posted by bookie View Post
    Their layout is a flat out disaster. The problem is that they want to pretend that they're a prediction market and that sports are just one of the type of events people can offer future positions on. But they know that 95% of their revenue will come from sports bettors. They need to do a redesign that acknowledges that reality. Like you I figured there must be a way to filter things or jiggle the settings so the whole thing wasn't such a maze, but I looked and looked and found nothing. Fairlay...wake up! We want to make you successful! But you're making it difficult.


    Here is a tip for Fairlay users to improve the experience.

    In order to navigate the Fairlay site easily you may want to change the layout from the default "cards" to "table" for easier viewing.

    Go to your "settings" (its the gear icon next to the magnifying glass) in the upper right side of the page:



    If it lists "cards" change it to "table":





    And now Fairlay will show a much more user friendly layout:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    If you click on the offered odds, then up to the amount of dollars shown on offer is matched and locked in at those odds instantly.

    If you put up an offer for your 200mBTC at better odds, that will be shown in the queue behind the current odds. It stays there until you click cancel or other people accept your total offer.
    Not exactly instant. Fairlay gives the MM a chance to put in a delay before accepting any order and to preferentially reject orders from certain IDs.

    People can argue all they want about this not being the case, but I have both irrefutable evidence that it is currently happening, and an admission to this policy from the site owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    Here is another tip for Fairlay users.

    In order to navigate the Fairlay site easily you may want to change the layout from the default "cards" to "table for easier viewing.

    Thank you!! Those cards are so annoying. I've played around with all of those settings in the past too. They must have added that option since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Thank you!! Those cards are so annoying. I've played around with all of those settings in the past too. They must have added that option since then.
    You're welcome!

    Everything except navigating the site is great at Fairlay. I'm trying to show how anyone can make things easier by following the tips I'm posting here.

    Another GREAT tip is to bookmark or create a desktop shortcut for the markets (MLB - CFL etc) you are most interested in.

    Once you have customized your viewing preferences in "settings" ie decimal or US odds, "tiles" or "cards"and you want to look at the MLB moneylines for the full game on Fairlay



    you go to:

    https://fairlay.com/markets/sports/b...ort=close_date

    (You must be logged in to your Fairlay account for it to work/display properly - if you are not logged in and use the link the "tiles" will display and not the "table" format.)
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    Once you have figured out the markets you are most interested in you create a shortcut on your desktop or add a bookmark in your browser for each one.

    Then when you want to bet you just click the bookmark you created and you won't have to search for anything as the work has been done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    Once you have figured out the markets you are most interested in you create a shortcut on your desktop or add a bookmark in your browser for each one.

    Then when you want to bet you just click the bookmark you created and you won't have to search for anything as the work has been done!
    Thanks.

    Great info.

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    Fairlay server down for past few hours. Support usually is unavailable from 7pm to morning EST, my guess is they are on EU time.

    Confident my BTC is safe but obviously hoping to wake up to a working site tomorrow morning.
    Last edited by eaglesfan371; 06-29-19 at 12:31 AM.

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    Yeah where the hell are they...has been down a long time

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