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There's actually some interesting theory and math behind this, but as it requires more advanced thinking than you possess as an ABC micro-stakes nit, there's no point getting into it. You should bookmark these threads though on the off chance you ever decide to improve your game; if you ever do, I'm sure you'll be amused at narrow-minded you were/areOriginally Posted by bobbywaves
GL in the game fellas
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Wow, congratulations on crushing me in pts derived from ring games I don't play. True accomplishment, proves the only way you beat me is when I'm not playing. These daily tournies & rollovers already take more time than I care to spend. Most people have lives outside of this forum, perhaps one day you will as well.
Guy brags about "crushing" SBR poker for approx. 20% of what a burger-flipper makes and pulls the "I have a life" card...unreal
Easy card to pull, considering your post total to join date ratio. Your 3.5 years my junior with more posts, I suggest you get out more.
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Last edited by tradeout; 02-25-14 at 07:52 PM.
Whoa, bobby drawing the wrong conclusions from meaningless data? What a shockerEasy card to pull, considering your post total to join date ratio. Your 3.5 years my junior with more posts, I suggest you get out more.
Wait wait...according to the Bobbywaves School of Economics, I've made more points than you despite being on the forum for about half the time....therefore my ROI is more than double yours!!1!
Ooops!!!
DS takes down 1st in the 9 PM and rockets past bobby. Can bobby answer in the 11 PM, or will he be too busy trying to find some combination of numbers that proves he's good?? Stay tuned!
Bobbywaves
Tourneys played: 11
Points won: 810
Downsouth
Tourneys played: 12
Points won: 1,270
You made more because you play ring games & I don't, as my time is valued.Whoa, bobby drawing the wrong conclusions from meaningless data? What a shocker
Wait wait...according to the Bobbywaves School of Economics, I've made more points than you despite being on the forum for about half the time....therefore my ROI is more than double yours!!1!Fact of the matter is, my poker withdrawal to deposit ratio is 5x yours. Which means if I deposited as much as you into poker, I would have 5x your withdrawals.
Bobby responds with a 4th, propelled by some excellent luck and his often-used "eberetta" maneuver (keeps 1 chip in reserve and uses full time bank hoping someone else gets busted). Today he does it with with a tiny pair with 11 players left, flops quads, and STILL stalls for max time (with absolutely no effect)...this is the fierce playing style that has earned bobby his nickname, "The Origami Accountant" (for his ability to devastatingly fold and crunch numbers to suit what he wants to believe).
Still a long way to go folks, DS in the lead but bobby hot on his tail just 5 mincashes away...it looks like this might actually stay interesting longer than expected!
Bobbywaves
Tourneys played: 12
Points won: 1,060
Downsouth
Tourneys played: 12
Points won: 1,270
Fact of the matter is, it takes me less time than you waste min-cashing one daily to win more points in ring games than you have in a month...whose time is better spent again?You made more because you play ring games & I don't, as my time is valued.
If you deposited 5 times as much and played ring games, you'd probably lose money, not win it...ring games don't magically multiply the pot by 6 so you can win something, and you can't fold your way to a small win. Face the facts bobby: the only way you can even be mediocre in poker around here is by sticking to games with 6x overlay and chopping hands in Omaha. You just don't have the skills to play outside of those conditions...it's OK, not everyone does, but most people are at least smart enough to realize their limitations. In your case, your obliviousness will most likely cost you about 13.5k points
My time is much better spent... I have a comfortable 1,900+ lead in our contest & will make an easy 10k off you, with no extra effort involved. While you on the other hand will spend many hours grinding out ring games, hoping to earn enough just to pay me 10k. My concern is you generating 5,300+ somehow in the next 8 months, so you can afford to pay me 10k.
Are you blind or just a little slow? What part of "I (and many others) earn points quicker in ring games than you do in dailies/Omaha chopping" do you not understand? Please have someone more intelligent explain this concept to you...doesn't sound like it will be hard to find someone, any 10 year old would qualify
Earn pts quicker only due to the volume of you ring game play, which is way more than my rollover play. Again...your poker withdrawal/deposit ratio is pathetic, 5x less than mine. In fact, you won't find anyone with a higher ratio than mine with similar poker deposits.
You also conveniently leave out that my sportsbook earnings are double yours, these are facts that simply can't be denied.
Glad to see you finally acknowledge the facts...now all you have to do is realize that when someone makes more points than you do in a shorter period of time, by every definition except yours, they are more successful at it
Uh, sure, your sportsbook winnings are double mine...I never claimed to be a great handicapper, but you might want to consider the fact you've been around here getting daily points, trivia freeplays, etc. for twice as long as I have, which would indicate we're about the same in that regard. Knowing you I wouldn't be surprised if you thought logging in for an extra 3.5 years somehow makes you a better bettor
Easy to acknowledge the facts, which prove I'm the better player.
Just for giggles, let's see the rest of what you quoted there:Easy to acknowledge the facts, which prove I'm the better player.
These are the facts, and they don't say anything about you being the better player...quite the opposite actually
DS takes down another 4th, and bobby bubbles right before the cash, presumably as part of a long-term strategy to maximize a made-up statistic. DS pulls out farther ahead, but only about a third of the way there, anything is possible!
Bobbywaves
Tourneys played: 13
Points won: 1,060
Downsouth
Tourneys played: 13
Points won: 1,520
i wish i wasnt stupid enough to be addicted to the casino so i could show you that i would crush you guys in poker.
Another eventful day, as both contestants place. Bobby sneaks in one position ahead of DS and closes the gap by just under a mincash.
DS still has a comfortable 11 mincash lead though, and bobby is going to have a tough time trying to get those mincashes while hoping DS blanks. Anything is possible though with 26 more tourneys left!
Bobbywaves
Tourneys played: 14
Points won: 1,260
Downsouth
Tourneys played: 14
Points won: 1,690
you should add me to the bobbywaves vs downsouth tourny i will be making an appearance tonight and ill prolly odds for me are -100 to win
I don't see a problem with that...please post up the 2500 points to enter and we'll discuss terms.
While we eagerly await the conclusion of this contest, here are some fun trivia facts:
Since this contest began, bobby and DS have both deposited the same amount of points into poker (140). Bobby has managed to Omaha chopflip his 1260 winnings into 658 points, while DS has managed to run his 1690 up to 5,517, netting over 8 times the points bobby has. The results are clear: even if one was foolish enough to measure success by points out/points in, DS is crushing bobby in that measure as well.
I believe you are not taking a couple things into account here.
A) I flipped a couple weeks ago with DS (near the start of his wager with bobby) , and he mentioned that he had plenty of rolls to do . A lot of what he got out of his rollovers in the past few weeks may be from cashes going back to before the 1690 you mentioned.
B) How can you be sure bobby finished his rollovers from the 1260 winnings you mentioned ?
we all do not feel the need to "keep up" with rollovers.
Good points hh...I don't always keep up with rollovers myself. However:
a) DS might have been working through old rollovers, but even if so I don't believe it's enough to warrant that gap, and the difference between points won and points cashed in isn't unusual for ring game rollovers.
b) bobby very likely hasn't rolled over 450 of his winnings from this week, as he's too terrified to play ring games and has to wait until weekends for Omaha.
My original point (that measuring things strictly on points in divided by points out is absurd) is proved regardless
Triple-D,
I fully agree that the so called ROI thing - ( pts out / pts in ) - is absurd. especially when there is no separation of 10 pt trny buy ins and someone buying into a ring game with non-poker points. apples/oranges.
I didn't want to get involved, so I'm reluctant to ... ( see below)
as of this post:
Bobby 41112 / 6611 = 6.2
me 49797 / 5292 = 9.4
[ I used the "refine further" section , keyword = poker , dropdown for deposit and then for withdraw, make sure date goes back to before poker -- I used a 2009 start. ]
I make no claim to this number meaning anything significant. I enjoy playing here and I sometimes have good luck. That's it. But, since bobby claimed a couple times his ratio would be the best, I felt I should post this. I'll probably regret doing so because I don;t normally do internet discussions.
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Appreciate the input hh...bobby, we're eager to hear your thoughts
someone send me some points so i can play some .50/1 and skool people
How much you need?
20 pts
Ok when I roll over
what does that mean like literally roll over
i need it to play the .50/1 then join the 6 central tourny
He can't play ring table games with points. Only with winnings from tournies whilst rolling them over.
not to shabby i was watching you. did you roll over yet?
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