1. 05-24-14 09:10 AM #2521
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Porcello is definitely pitching above his head, but he's also been a perennial underachiever, so the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I'm sure a regression is coming, and I agree that it's insane he's favored like that. He was actually a higher-rated prospect than Verlander coming up and he's still only 25. Typical sinkerball pitcher who took a while to get things figured out. -180/-190 is crazy, though.
    Yeah, the price on Texas looks like an auto play for at least a small amount.
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    CLE -115 (2.3U to win 2)
    NYY -105 (1.05U to win 1)
    TOR +103 (1U to win 1.03)
    TEX +165 (1U to win 1.65)
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    CLE -115 (2.3U to win 2)
    NYY -105 (1.05U to win 1)
    TOR +103 (1U to win 1.03)
    Good luck buddy!
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  4. 05-24-14 09:34 AM #2524
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-bone View Post
    Good luck buddy!
    Thanks. You too. Added TEX for a unit. Working on the night side of the card now.
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    Tribe just went back to -105. Shit. Had a feeling I was locking in the worst possible number there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-bone View Post
    I need someone to talk me out of Texas today. Porcello's numbers are a fvckin joke.
    what do you expect his #'s should be?
    by seasons end he'll likely have an ERA of 3.20/3.30 and a WHIP around 1.10
    he's a 4 pitch pitcher, on a great team and finally has a good defense behind him (GB pitcher)

    not sure why people keep thinking this huge correction is coming. he would be a 2/3 on most other teams.
    hes a 5 on detroit b/c they have the best staff in baseball.
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  7. 05-24-14 09:51 AM #2527
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    what do you expect his #'s should be?
    by seasons end he'll likely have an ERA of 3.20/3.30 and a WHIP around 1.10
    he's a 4 pitch pitcher, on a great team and finally has a good defense behind him (GB pitcher)

    not sure why people keep thinking this huge correction is coming. he would be a 2/3 on most other teams.
    hes a 5 on detroit b/c they have the best staff in baseball.
    Because he has 7 wins in 8 starts and is suddenly being favored by -180/-190 against Texas. He's not going to win 25 games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    what do you expect his #'s should be?
    by seasons end he'll likely have an ERA of 3.20/3.30 and a WHIP around 1.10
    he's a 4 pitch pitcher, on a great team and finally has a good defense behind him (GB pitcher)

    not sure why people keep thinking this huge correction is coming. he would be a 2/3 on most other teams.
    hes a 5 on detroit b/c they have the best staff in baseball.
    He's been in the league 6 years with an era over 4.40. Add in the fact that he doesn't miss bats. The real rick porcello will come back to earth sooner than later.

    Texas ML +165
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-bone View Post
    He's been in the league 6 years with an era over 4.40. Add in the fact that he doesn't miss bats. The real rick porcello will come back to earth sooner than later.

    Texas ML +165
    As a sinkerballer, you're always walking a thin line.

    The infield D is as good as it's been behind him in Detroit this season, though. He's definitely benefited from that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Because he has 7 wins in 8 starts and is suddenly being favored by -180/-190 against Texas. He's not going to win 25 games.
    not the same texas team you and the public are thinking of.
    they are a sub 500 team, poor bullpen, and a lot of departures that arent being offset by new faces...

    plus they still have washington managing them.
    this is why detroit is favored by 180, more then porcellos win/loss record.
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    don't like texas at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    not the same texas team you and the public are thinking of.
    they are a sub 500 team, poor bullpen, and a lot of departures that arent being offset by new faces...

    plus they still have washington managing them.
    this is why detroit is favored by 180, more then porcellos win/loss record.
    Texas isn't good. Agree. But they also aren't +165 against Porcello bad.

    I have them +140 here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-bone View Post
    He's been in the league 6 years with an era over 4.40. Add in the fact that he doesn't miss bats. The real rick porcello will come back to earth sooner than later.

    Texas ML +165
    he doesnt miss bats because he is a ground ball pitcher..
    he was a top pitching prospect and not the 4.40 era type guy you are thinking of.
    go look at his BABIP for prior years (when they had a horrible defense)...getting kinsler and moving cabrera off 3B is HUGE for him..

    porcello is the classic scenario of a young prospect learning on the job. you do realize hes still just 26?
    he was a full time major league pitcher at 21 after spending 1 year in A ball..
    not all prospects do what a strasburg/kershaw did..
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    Cleveland looks good for the early game. BOL today NC
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    Anyone know anything about this cat pitching for Philly today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Texas isn't good. Agree. But they also aren't +165 against Porcello bad.

    I have them +140 here.
    im also not willing to lay that much in this spot..
    youre going to be happily surprised with him come Sept/October..

    a correction will of course come - but nothing like what T-Bone is anticipating...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBrown View Post
    Cleveland looks good for the early game. BOL today NC
    Hey JB! Where you been pal? Don't be a stranger.

    I'm adding a unit to Tribe -105 and Rangers TT over 3.5 (-110).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    im also not willing to lay that much in this spot..
    youre going to be happily surprised with him come Sept/October..

    a correction will of course come - but nothing like what T-Bone is anticipating...
    I hope you're right, though unless they address the issues in that bullpen, I have a feeling it's going to be another lost postseason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Anyone know anything about this cat pitching for Philly today?
    all i found...

    "Phillies righty David Buchanan. It will be his major league debut. Perhaps you have not heard of Buchanan. Perhaps you are a Phillies fan and still haven’t heard of Buchanan. This is because he profiles as an organizational soldier rather than a major league asset."
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I hope you're right, though unless they address the issues in that bullpen, I have a feeling it's going to be another lost postseason.
    their bullpen whip is very good.
    the era should get better...
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    3 units on tribe?
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    CLE FF -108 (2.16U to win 2)
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    Well got good number on tribe at least, also played ov 9 in toronto
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Anyone know anything about this cat pitching for Philly today?

    Buchanan is 5-1 with a 3.98 era in AAA starts. He is filling in for Cliff Lee and today's start is right on point for Buchanan's rotation too.
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    RA DICKEY!

    boom
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    This ump squeezing kluber
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    jays baby, gl nc!
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    Quote Originally Posted by leetreaper View Post
    jays baby, gl nc!
    with you on jays

    first baseball play in over a week
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    Jimenez all over the place throwing ton of pitches, we just need a hit now..
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    Ive been all over the place w the stl gm and admittedly dont have a good read but for whatever, talked myself into the over 7, lol..
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    jimenez 3 walks through 1 and 2/3 lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by leetreaper View Post
    jimenez 3 walks through 1 and 2/3 lol...
    timmy had 6 walks in 6 innings last night

    only half of his pitches thrown were stirkes (btw he threw 112 pitches)
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    Quote Originally Posted by leetreaper View Post
    jimenez 3 walks through 1 and 2/3 lol...
    Already over 50 pitches and I thought punk ump bailed him out on couple called strikes, same ump squeezing kluber! Prick..
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    kluber is straight up dealing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by leetreaper View Post
    kluber is straight up dealing...
    Only a matter of time till tribe hang a crooked number on ubaldo the way he throwin, maybe just nobody swing!
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