1. #141
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    I have quite a few CHASE systems in another forum tha have never lost. Yes they are documented. I might post on this forum.

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    This is the funniest shit I have read on here for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strat1x View Post
    This is the funniest shit I have read on here for a while.
    If you are referring to my post, you obviously aren't familiar with chase systems or how they work. I have one that hasn't lost in 17 years it's 316-0 but you think I'm a joke. That's ok I'll keep cashing.

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    If you are referring to my post, you obviously aren't familiar with chase systems or how they work. I have one that hasn't lost in 17 years it's 316-0 but you think I'm a joke.<img src="http://forum.cloud.static-files.com/vb4/images/smilies/lmao.gif" border="0" alt="" title="LMAO" smilieid="1554" class="inlineimg"> That's ok I'll keep cashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilaudid8 View Post
    joco whats up. yeah that guy is something else like you said -200 my god. I don't know how many time's I will have to say this the risk is not worth the reword. even if you win the game you lose.
    In the long run u will hit for 70% and still lose money. Doesn't work

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    If your average odds were -200 and u hit 70% u would actually profit, granted you would have to make an absurd amount of bets in order to make any kind of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joco View Post
    In the long run u will hit for 70% and still lose money. Doesn't work
    shipcity is right here on this one. you would still have an okay return hitting 70% on -200.

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    Time to change website name or you screen name to 70%.

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    You claim that you are new, so I will give some free advice. What separates Scamdicappers from real handicappers is how they list their record and return.

    What you are selling is your Skills, your education, your commitment, your information. You are not selling your picks, per se. Sure a winning record is important, but if you are trying to be a legitimate Tout, you must understand this distinction.

    In reality, Units and Records are worthless. You can be 50 - 0 claiming a 100% win record, but what if all your picks are on Nadal at -10000 in the first round?. Or if you say you are up 20 units, well that doesnt tell anyone anything either because you could have lost 20 straight at one unit each than threw a hail mary and won a 40 unit pick. So you could be up 20 units, but its only because you got lucky one one pick with a record of 1 - 20.

    This is why a code of handicapping ethics was devised to separate the geniuses from the con artists.

    All plays must be to risk one unit to win whatever, regardless what you bet in real life and all side spreads need to be listed at -110, even if you can get reduced juice somewhere at -108. (An exception to this is if -108 available to all at all the books which does happen in certain situations.)

    so if you list a play at -200, than what your record will show is that you risked one unit to win 0.50. Not, risk 2 units to win 1, even if thats how you bet it personally.

    Also, never list 1 - 5 star picks, or bets of the year, because that to is a marketing scam. Real handicappers make a bet when there is value, and determining value is a extremely hard nut to break, so again, you list the bet at risk 1 to win x and leave out all the fluff and hype.

    Let your ROI% do the talking , and if risking one unit to win x units makes a profit, than that alone will do all the advertising you need for you...

    It all about staying honest in a sea of scammers.

    Legitimate Handicappers follow this universal code of ethics.
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    0-2

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    Clearly a scam. No need to buy something. Plenty of good people around

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    OP is 1-2 -2.27U

    (don't want him just showing record when he chooses huge faves)

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Sol View Post
    You claim that you are new, so I will give some free advice. What separates Scamdicappers from real handicappers is how they list their record and return.

    What you are selling is your Skills, your education, your commitment, your information. You are not selling your picks, per se. Sure a winning record is important, but if you are trying to be a legitimate Tout, you must understand this distinction.

    In reality, Units and Records are worthless. You can be 50 - 0 claiming a 100% win record, but what if all your picks are on Nadal at -10000 in the first round?. Or if you say you are up 20 units, well that doesnt tell anyone anything either because you could have lost 20 straight at one unit each than threw a hail mary and won a 40 unit pick. So you could be up 20 units, but its only because you got lucky one one pick with a record of 1 - 20.

    This is why a code of handicapping ethics was devised to separate the geniuses from the con artists.

    All plays must be to risk one unit to win whatever, regardless what you bet in real life and all side spreads need to be listed at -110, even if you can get reduced juice somewhere at -108. (An exception to this is if -108 available to all at all the books which does happen in certain situations.)

    so if you list a play at -200, than what your record will show is that you risked one unit to win 0.50. Not, risk 2 units to win 1, even if thats how you bet it personally.

    Also, never list 1 - 5 star picks, or bets of the year, because that to is a marketing scam. Real handicappers make a bet when there is value, and determining value is a extremely hard nut to break, so again, you list the bet at risk 1 to win x and leave out all the fluff and hype.

    Let your ROI% do the talking , and if risking one unit to win x units makes a profit, than that alone will do all the advertising you need for you...

    It all about staying honest in a sea of scammers.

    Legitimate Handicappers follow this universal code of ethics.
    I dont see anything wrong with a handicapper with an occasional one or two a week (2 unit or even 3 unit ) bet. I dont see how thats "unethical" or "misleading" anyone can check anyones picks and see for themselves. I know many handicappers who bet 2-3 unit bets and I think none the less of them for it (and I DO IT TOO!) mainly when I see MORE VALUE than my normal bettting criteria... now when you get up into the 5x 10x....or your average bet is 2-3 units, well thats just foolish,....something to think about though, maybe I will start tracking my (average unit bet #) each season as well and clarify it within the recordkeeping

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    Joke fest in here.

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    UPDATED RECORD: 35-10.........77.78%.........+18.35 units

    AVG ML: -182.............BREAK-EVEN:65%

    ALL BETS TO WIN 1 UNIT. NO 5 STAR PLAYS....NO MARKETING. JUST HONEST RECORDS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 80percentwinner View Post
    UPDATED RECORD: 1-2 -2.27 Units
    Fixed for anyone wondering how he is really doing since posting plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFF THE HAT View Post
    If you are referring to my post, you obviously aren't familiar with chase systems or how they work. I have one that hasn't lost in 17 years it's 316-0 but you think I'm a joke. That's ok I'll keep cashing.
    Was not refering to you or your posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80percentwinner View Post
    UPDATED RECORD: 35-10.........77.78%.........+18.35 units

    AVG ML: -182.............BREAK-EVEN:65%

    ALL BETS TO WIN 1 UNIT. NO 5 STAR PLAYS....NO MARKETING. JUST HONEST RECORDS.
    unreal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefferey13 View Post
    OP is 1-2 -2.27U

    (don't want him just showing record when he chooses huge faves)
    go home and get your fxxking shinebox!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackeyeshamus View Post
    go home and get your fxxking shinebox!
    I'm assuming thats not to me though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jefferey13 View Post
    I'm assuming thats not to me though?
    Of course not, my friend.
    You're the reputable poster documenting the actual record! No disrespect intended, brooklyn dodger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFF THE HAT View Post
    I have quite a few CHASE systems in another forum tha have never lost. Yes they are documented. I might post on this forum.
    How many games? Odds? Parameters of the chase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daejeon View Post
    unreal
    Why is he saying he is an 80% winner, win he is 77%

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    Detroit -240

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    -240?!?!?!?!?

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    Juice Dispenser
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    i need more multivariate regression analysis
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    Quote Originally Posted by 80percentwinner View Post
    Detroit -240

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    fuk the tigers are in trouble....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80percentwinner View Post
    UPDATED RECORD: 35-10.........77.78%.........+18.35 units

    AVG ML: -182.............BREAK-EVEN:65%

    ALL BETS TO WIN 1 UNIT. NO 5 STAR PLAYS....NO MARKETING. JUST HONEST RECORDS.
    You are a complete joke....you claim this big winning system... yet 1-2 when posting before the games with huge favorites...

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    keep up the good work

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    Kevin Correia putting up a goose egg........crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80percentwinner View Post
    Detroit -240

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    His pick tomorrow will be Detroit (Verlander) or Dodgers (Kershaw). Book it.

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