[stevenash]

I got a feeling Timmah! steps up tonight with a solid start.

Now 90 percent of my handicapping is based on stone cold facts, but I pay attention a little to that little birdie in the back of my head too.

I know all about the fast ball is 90 MPH now and not 95 MPH anymore.
I know all about the nagging injuries of the past.
I know all about the red flags surrounding Lincecum.

Having said all that, I'm hearing Timmah ! physically pretty good right now, and even though he had a rough spring, his off speed stuff is still there.

Right now, this isn't a play, but more of a discussion thread, and could turn into a play.

I don't like Josh Beckett, I don't like his attitude, I think his heart isn't in this and he's just in this now for the monthly paycheck.
I also think Josh is like 2 years + past his prime.

I can't ignore the fact that the Dodger dugout in the past can't touch Timmy.
Yes, I understand some of these numbers were compiled when Timmy was a little healthier, but still.

LOS ANGELES DODGERS CAREER STATISTICS VS. TIM LINCECUM
BATTER	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Luis Cruz	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
A.J. Ellis	9	1	0	0	0	0	6	4	.111	.467	.111	.578
Mark Ellis	15	5	1	0	0	0	3	2	.333	.444	.400	.844
Andre Ethier	43	12	3	0	2	6	5	11	.279	.354	.488	.843
Adrian Gonzalez	42	8	0	0	0	1	3	16	.190	.244	.190	.435
Dee Gordon	13	1	0	0	0	0	1	3	.077	.143	.077	.220
Jerry Hairston Jr.	4	2	0	0	0	0	1	1	.500	.600	.500	1.100
Elian Herrera	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Matt Kemp	42	9	1	0	0	3	4	18	.214	.292	.238	.530
Hanley Ramirez	14	3	1	0	1	3	0	5	.214	.214	.500	.714
Skip Schumaker	22	7	1	0	1	2	1	5	.318	.348	.500	.848
Justin Sellers	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	.000	.143	.000	.143
Juan Uribe	13	3	1	0	0	2	0	5	.231	.333	.308	.641
Totals	227	51	8	0	4	17	24	73	.225	.309	.313	.621

[freeVICK]

SF pen will always keep them in games

[rcene]

I am going to watch how he throws.

Can't put any money on him until he proves that his spring was just a hiccup

[InTheDrink]

I am going to watch how he throws.

Can't put any money on him until he proves that his spring was just a hiccup

so was all of last year a hiccup?

if you take lincecum you might as well take the over

[No coincidences]

Game is unbettable in my book.

Have no idea if Beckett is going to be interested in pitching well -- probably depends on if he got his mid-afternoon nap and bottle.

I'm not interested in backing Lincecum in any way, shape or form either. Number would have to be +130 or so for my ears to perk up.

[EXhoosier10]

I am going to watch how he throws.

Can't put any money on him until he proves that his spring was just a hiccup

Seconded. Any bet made on this game that involves Lincecum is -EV as nobody has any clue how he'll pitch

[rcene]

so was all of last year a hiccup?

if you take lincecum you might as well take the over

Last year was a bad sign that something was wrong.

Good pitchers do not just turn to crap over night like that.

So it was the same this spring, all I am saying is that I will not bet on him until he proves that he can miss a few bats.

Keep the ball in the park if you will

[playersonly69]

Lincecum starts REALLY slowly every year

[InTheDrink]

Last year was a bad sign that something was wrong.

Good pitchers do not just turn to crap over night like that.

So it was the same this spring, all I am saying is that I will not bet on him until he proves that he can miss a few bats.

Keep the ball in the park if you will

yeah my only point was that spring was more of the same from last year

he could be doing mop up duty by may

[YankThunder06]

No but I like this play!

[InTheDrink]

and i will say that im not necessarily questioning the play because beckett fukkin blows too

but with an over of 7 with these shitbags id be all over that

[YankThunder06]

and i will say that im not necessarily questioning the play because beckett fukkin blows too

but with an over of 7 with these shitbags id be all over that

Sounds like straight cash!

[EVPlus]

To me, it's a question of which starter is the bigger fade. In that equation, beckett is the bigger fade. Doesn't mean I'm going to back lince. Just a lean on SF for me because bosch will better handle his bull pen than mattingly (IMO).

[rcene]

yeah my only point was that spring was more of the same from last year

he could be doing mop up duty by may

His era goes from consistently in the mid 2s, to double that last year.

Home run derby everytime he pitched.

So I am with you, next month he may be the long man out of the pen

[Hench]

Took the over 6.5 when the lines first came out without too much thought.

[stevenash]

Took the over 6.5 when the lines first came out without too much thought.

That's the right thinking.

I think SF takes this game, can't pull the trigger on Timmah ! though, but thought it would make a nice little dinner time discussion thread.

No bets for me this evening, can't find anything worth putting cash money on.
I like Harvey and the Mets, but the price is to high

[jnickell100]

To me, it's a question of which starter is the bigger fade. In that equation, beckett is the bigger fade. Doesn't mean I'm going to back lince. Just a lean on SF for me because bosch will better handle his bull pen than mattingly (IMO).

How is Beckett more of a fade? What was his ERA last year with the dodgers??

[Deuce]

Cumboy will be sporting a 30 ERA and be the highest paid bat boy by the end of May.

[HOT WINGS]

Took the over 6.5 when the lines first came out without too much thought.

I did the same thing. Think both pitchers get hit around a little bit. Timmay needs that fastball and doesn't have it and Beckett won't make it through more than 5 imo

[Bostongambler]

I like them here as well Steve

[tatddy]

If there is this much vacillating it prob means there were/are better spots today.

[pulledclear]

Lincecum is gonna get shelled.

[BigD46]

If I win my Nats runline bet, I might back Timmy. I hope he proves all of you haters wrong!

[Killer_Demo]

On Stoner Timmy too

[EVPlus]

How is Beckett more of a fade? What was his ERA last year with the dodgers??

I'm factoring in how he performed for Boston before he became a Dodger. And it's not just stats. Sure, sure, stats are important. But it's his overall "I don't give a fukk" attitude towards his job and the game I also factor in. Btw, in case you're not watching, it's SF 5, LA 3 at the time of this post. Like I said earlier, bosch will handle the bull pen better and beckett is the bigger fade in my eyes.

[Colin Kaepernick]

+ Money on the best team in MLB is never a bad thing

(almost never)