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    chubber911
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    My math-based software picks.

    Hey guys, I'm new here and I've created a program to determine the best baseball money line wagers. I've also made my program determine the best # of units to bet, based on the value of the line. So far it only will suggest 0-4 units, with 0 obviously meaning not enough value to bet. I've written it in a way that finds value in the lines, rather than in the win% of the picks. I do not suggest following these picks if you cannot get a relatively close money line (within 5 points, or better).

    I'm hoping you guys will follow my picks for a while to see how they do, and then maybe in the future try them yourself.

    Picks for June 28:

    Angels *4 (+117)
    Orioles *3 (-136)
    Cubs *2 (-103)
    Red Sox *2 (+105)
    Rockies *2 (+114)
    Phillies *2 (+113)
    Mets *1 (+118)
    Pirates *1 (+142)
    Marlins *1 (+142)
    Astros *1 (+126)
    Twins *1 (+122)
    Mariners *1 (+169)
    Rangers *1 (-155)

    (The *1 bets are sensitive, and you may want to avoid them for the time being, until my results could prove otherwise. Playing them all will probably increase your variance a fair bit.)
    Last edited by chubber911; 06-28-09 at 01:25 AM.

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    what's the record so far in the season bru?

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    What algorithms do you use?

    How do you determine value? What algorithms do you use?

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    So far, my program has gone 44-38 for +11.06 units.

    I've noticed on the weekend, it has been suggesting a lot more underdog picks than during the week. My best estimate is that a lot of squares are betting on the weekend, and really like to pick win% favourites, which skews the lines in a way that makes the underdog picks the more profitable plays on weekends.

    The unit size recommendation uses the half- kelly criterion formula and relies on a teams likelihood to win the bet, adjusted by the odds laid, to quantify how strong the wager is, and thus how much you should be willing to play.

    Other information I need to input include the teams records, and home/away records. I don't input the starting pitchers wins/losses, rather I input the teams records when those pitchers start the game (ie. Home pitcher may have a record of 6-3, but the team's record when he starts is 6-7 because of a weak bullpen, so this is in the information I use). I then enter the teams average runs per game over the last 10 starts, and then the average team ERA over the last 20 starts (to account for 4 full pitching rotations). Then I pit the 2 teams against each other in a simulator to get a percentage of how often each team wins. This % is multiplied by the money line odds to see which team would be a strong bet. The software then recommends a pick, and how many units to put on the pick. When it recommends <1 unit on the pick for the game, this means there isn't enough value for the bet.

    Every pick I make that is only 1* unit is a marginal bet, and may actually be incorrect if the software's prediction of the winner is off by 2 or 3%. I still make these picks, however, because I want to play test this software and plot out how the 1* unit wagers are fairing.

    EDIT: There is no filtering capability of this software, but doing so would most likely increase your ROI. I wish there was a way to quantify an injury for this.
    Last edited by chubber911; 06-28-09 at 11:57 AM.

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    Always nice to see somebody come to this forum and add a new approach to gambling! Wish you the best of luck. Hope your system can prove to be successful over the long term.

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    sounds interesting. gl.

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    If it makes money it works... lets see you keep it up over the long haul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber911 View Post
    Picks for June 28:

    Angels *4 (+117)
    Orioles *3 (-136)
    Cubs *2 (-103)
    Red Sox *2 (+105)
    Rockies *2 (+114)
    Phillies *2 (+113)
    Mets *1 (+118)
    Pirates *1 (+142)
    Marlins *1 (+142)
    Astros *1 (+126)
    Twins *1 (+122)
    Mariners *1 (+169)
    Rangers *1 (-155)
    5-8 [L 1.3 units]

    Baltimore and Boston were real disappointments. Losses were kept to a minimum though, thanks to the Angels pulling through and the odds paid for the other 4 wins. I'm going to run it as is for a week or so, and then I'll see if I want to make an adjustment as to how strict the conditions need to be before the program will suggest making a bet.

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    Picks for June 29:

    Pirates *3 (+100)
    Dodgers *3 (-115)
    Tigers *2 (-122)
    Padres *1 (+132)
    Mets *1 (+120)
    Red Sox *1 (-155)
    Angels *1 (+118)

    If the lines adjust, there may be some picks on other games, but my software couldn't find any more good bets with the current money lines.

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    More picks for June 29:

    Marlins *1 (-175)
    White Sox *2 (+105)

    The lines for these games improved enough that my program is now recommending plays.

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    you look like a math dude
    i hope your math program implodes tonight.

    Pirates *3 (+100) against you
    Dodgers *3 (-115) against you
    Tigers *2 (-122) against you
    Padres *1 (+132) with you
    Mets *1 (+120) against you
    Red Sox *1 (-155) not playin
    Angels *1 (+118) not playin
    Marlins *1 (-175) against you
    White Sox *2 (+105) against you

    here's to 1-6 gl bro

    btw how did the white sox go from no play to 2*, there hasnt been that much movement on the line.

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    For 6/28, you went 3-3 for +1.08 units on your plays rated *2 and up. As you stated yourself, the *1 are iffy. GL with your system. I'll be watching.

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    I know my system isn't perfect, and I know changes are going to happen, however I don't want to make changes with less than 1 week of plays since this is a long term activity.

    Regarding the White Sox, original line I had available for them was -109. With this line, my program suggested a <1 unit bet. When I checked again later, I was able to get +105. With this new line, my program suggested a >2 unit bet. Close to 3, actually, but I'm rounding down for now.

    Few more minutes, I'll post results from 29 and get working on June 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber911 View Post
    Picks for June 29:

    Pirates *3 (+100)
    Dodgers *3 (-115)
    Tigers *2 (-122)
    Padres *1 (+132)
    Mets *1 (+120)
    Red Sox *1 (-155)
    Angels *1 (+118)

    Marlins *1 (-175)
    White Sox *2 (+105)
    5-4 [W 0.84 units]

    Total 10-12 [L 0.46 units]

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    I thought I was making some mistakes with the numbers, but wow, this looks like it's going to be a big day for the underdogs!

    Picks for June 30:

    White Sox *4 (+182)
    Blue Jays *4 (+119)
    Pirates *3 (+124)
    Reds *3 (+128)
    Phillies *2 (+118)
    Rockies *2 (+160)
    Royals *2 (+124)
    Brewers *1 (+125)
    Giants *1 (+180)
    Tigers *1 (-115)

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    Keep up the work man, dont let anyone criticize your work... I am working on something similar for totals but have hit a wall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber911 View Post
    Picks for June 30:

    White Sox *4 (+182)
    Blue Jays *4 (+119)
    Pirates *3 (+124)
    Reds *3 (+128)
    Phillies *2 (+118)
    Rockies *2 (+160)
    Royals *2 (+124)
    Brewers *1 (+125)
    Giants *1 (+180)
    Tigers *1 (-115)
    6-4 [W 7.25 units]

    Total 16-16 [W 6.79 units]

    What a day!

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    Happy Canada Day!

    Picks for July 1:

    Blue Jays *4 (+115)
    Giants *3 (+124)
    Marlins *2 (-165)
    Mets *1 (+198)
    Rockies *1 (+135)
    Phillies *1 (-104)
    Orioles *1 (+136)
    Yankees *1 (-165)

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    I am with you on Toronto, Rocks... have the other side with the BoSox... Any info on Detroit? Looks like my top play as of now..

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    Last night I was getting -123 to play Detroit, and my software was recommending a no wager. I just ran it again with the new money line (-117). My software now suggests a 1.18 unit play, so I'm going to put *1 on Detroit today.

    July 1:

    Detroit *1 (-117)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber911 View Post
    Picks for July 1:

    Blue Jays *4 (+115)
    Giants *3 (+124)
    Marlins *2 (-165)
    Mets *1 (+198)
    Rockies *1 (+135)
    Phillies *1 (-104)
    Orioles *1 (+136)
    Yankees *1 (-165)
    Detroit *1 (-117)
    4-5 [W 2.37 units]

    Total 20-21 [W 9.16 units]

    Great game for Toronto and Romero on Canada Day.

    Thanks for following my thread, tomorrow's picks to come soon!

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    Good job. I gotta keep my eye on this thread.

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    Pick for July 2:

    Phillies *3 (+130)
    Brewers *2 (+136)
    Reds *1 (-133)
    Padres *1 (+109)
    Mariners *1 (+270)
    Pirates *1 (-138)

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    I have been keeping track of your plays, and here is the breakdown:

    2+ units: (10-10, +7.54 units)
    1 unit: (10-11, +1.14 units)

    The one-unit plays may not be worth the risk. But, it is still very early in your trial. I wish you continued success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighVoltage View Post
    I have been keeping track of your plays, and here is the breakdown:

    2+ units: (10-10, +7.54 units)
    1 unit: (10-11, +1.14 units)

    The one-unit plays may not be worth the risk. But, it is still very early in your trial. I wish you continued success.
    Thanks for the support!
    I've done a bit of filtering, but haven't changed the software yet. I made a cutoff of 1.26 units for the minimum to make a bet. 1.26-1.99 is still 1 unit, and 1.00-1.25 is no bet. Reason I did this was I noticed just how volatile the low unit recommendations were. If the predicted winning %s of both teams were to go up or down by even 1%, it could change the situation to a no play. Since I'm highly doubtful that I can be accurate to within 1% when predicting a winner, I think it may be better to cut these bets for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber911 View Post
    Pick for July 2:

    Phillies *3 (+130)
    Brewers *2 (+136)
    Reds *1 (-133)
    Padres *1 (+109)
    Mariners *1 (+270)
    Pirates *1 (-138)
    2-4 [L 3.68 units]

    Total 22-25 [W 5.48 units]

    July 3's picks will be up in the afternoon.

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    Looks good BOL

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    Picks for July 3:

    Giants *4 (-112)
    Braves *3 (-121)
    Brewers *2 (+158)
    D-Backs *2 (+120)
    Red Sox *2 (-115)
    Rangers *2 (+129)
    White Sox *2 (+138)
    Mets *1 (+144)
    Blue Jays *1 (+168)
    Athletics *1 (+117)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber911 View Post
    Picks for July 3:

    Giants *4 (-112)
    Braves *3 (-121)
    Brewers *2 (+158)
    D-Backs *2 (+120)
    Red Sox *2 (-115)
    Rangers *2 (+129)
    White Sox *2 (+138)
    Mets *1 (+144)
    Blue Jays *1 (+168)
    Athletics *1 (+117)
    What a blow-out for the Giants!

    4-6 [W 3.04 units]

    Total 26-31 [W 8.52 units]



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    Here are my picks for the early afternoon games. All the late afternoon and evening games will be done in a few hours.

    Picks for July 4:

    Braves *3 (-109)
    Toronto *2 (-112)
    Brewers *1 (+147)
    Cardinals *1 (+113)
    Mariners *1 (+200)


    Keep in mind, if I was getting a straight wager, I would definitely pick Boston to beat Seattle today. But, with the odds on the money line, Boston has to win today more than ~69% of the time in order to be a profitable bet, and I just don't see them doing that. This is why I put a wager on Seattle. Good value for the underdog. Sorry if this concept seems standard to you, I just thought I'd explain a little bit for all the less experienced bettors who may be reading my thread today.

    Thanks for watching.

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    Your *2's and up are +8.58 units. The *1's are flat.

    I'm with you on the *2's and up.

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    Thanks for keeping the extra stats for me.

    Rest of today's picks coming shortly.

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    Rest of today's games analyzed.

    Picks for July 4:

    Angels *4 (-145)
    Tigers *2 (+124)
    Mets *1 (+129)
    Indians *1 (-108)

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    Ah good to see your system being on the Angels and Tigers as I'm on them as well.

    Your system looking good so far, very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubber911 View Post
    Picks for July 4:

    Angels *4 (-145)
    Braves *3 (-109)
    Toronto *2 (-112)
    Tigers *2 (+124)
    Brewers *1 (+147)
    Cardinals *1 (+113)
    Mariners *1 (+200)
    Mets *1 (+129)
    Indians *1 (-108)
    4-5 [L 1.04 units]

    Total 30-36 [W 7.48 units]
    Last edited by chubber911; 07-05-09 at 12:22 AM.

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