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    When was the last time the Yankees were this big of an underdog?

    Has it happened in the last 16 years or so? I would find it hard to believe.

    No way in the playoffs.

    The only way I could see it is in a meaningless September game where they were resting all their players.

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    Exactly why I can't pass them up today...

    When's the last time you could get 4.5/1 on a Yanks/Over parlay...

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    im with u guys, its very tempting

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    only an idiot would bet yankees tonight, this is why they are. no1 is overlooking them IT IS WHAT IT IS.

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    I'm in no way trying to talk anyone to betting the Yankees.

    I'm certainly not betting them.

    I was just looking for some historical data.

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    they were +175 when they played the tigers in september this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    they were +175 when they played the tigers in september this year
    Really? Who was pitching?

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    I know i've seen them +200 a couple times with like rookie call ups pitching against aces, but thats about it.

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    This team is "Yankees" in name only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    they were +175 when they played the tigers in september this year
    Didnt play Detroit in September

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    they were +175 when they played the tigers in september this year
    I can't believe you sent me on a wild goose chase, Zeta.

    They haven't even played Detroit since August....hmmm.... looks like they were +167 with Nova against Verlander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    This team is "Yankees" in name only...
    And all the players.....

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    Zeta making shit up...

    Yankees bats were on fire than anyway, no way it would of been +175

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    August 6th Yankees closed at +167

    WP:
    J. Verlander (12-7)
    LP: I. Nova (10-6)

    Detroit won 7-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    August 6th Yankees closed at +167

    WP:
    J. Verlander (12-7)
    LP: I. Nova (10-6)

    Detroit won 7-2
    Good Research...

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    In June, these two pitchers faced each other in Detroit.

    Hughes and Verlander.

    Yankees were +160. Yankees won 5-1.

    Irrelevant and interesting, all rolled up into one.

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    parlayed yankees with over

    I think there's at least a 20% chance the yankees score 5+ and win

    tigers should get a couple

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    08/06/12 @ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/teams/team2978.html L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/results/2012/boxscore333595.html Ivan Nova (R) covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/players/player42497.html (R) L 167 O 8 -108

    07/04/12 @ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/teams/team2960.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/results/2012/boxscore333578.html covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/players/player105926.html (R) covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/players/player43365.html (L) W 142 U 8 100


    Rematch

    06/03/12 @ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/teams/team2978.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/results/2012/boxscore333550.html covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/players/player42760.html (R) covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/players/player42497.html (R) W 160 U 8 -118

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Zeta making shit up...

    Yankees bats were on fire than anyway, no way it would of been +175
    lkid settle down pal

    do a little research yourself

    it was in august not september as canuck pointed out

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    answer this: when was the last time the Yankees sucked this bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    lkid settle down pal

    do a little research yourself

    it was in august not september as canuck pointed out
    Sorry pal, you're right...

    Just busting balls...

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    parlayed yankees with over

    I think there's at least a 20% chance the yankees score 5+ and win

    tigers should get a couple
    This is the play tonight...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    answer this: when was the last time the Yankees sucked this bad?
    They don't suck. They won the AL East, and are in the ALCS.

    They are just in a catastrophic hitting drought.

    The pitching has been solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    They don't suck. They won the AL East, and are in the ALCS.

    They are just in a catastrophic hitting drought.

    The pitching has been solid.
    Defense has blown moneky chunks too

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    How bout' over by itself? If you want to fade Verlander why not have Hughes as your back up plan.

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    Brett Gardner LF
    Ichiro Suzuki RF
    Mark Teixeira 1B
    Robinson Cano 2B
    Raul Ibanez DH
    Russell Martin C
    Eric Chavez 3B
    Curtis Granderson CF
    Eduardo Nunez SS
    (Phil Hughes P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    In June, these two pitchers faced each other in Detroit.

    Hughes and Verlander.

    Yankees were +160. Yankees won 5-1.

    Irrelevant and interesting, all rolled up into one.

    hmmm... interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    They don't suck. They won the AL East, and are in the ALCS.

    They are just in a catastrophic hitting drought.

    The pitching has been solid.
    call me crazy for describing a baseball team who hasn't been able to hit the ball let alone score runs lately a team that sucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    call me crazy for describing a baseball team who hasn't been able to hit the ball let alone score runs lately a team that sucks!
    No worries. From reading your posts, I've established you're crazy long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    No worries. From reading your posts, I've established you're crazy long ago.
    yea crazy me a winning sports capper. Go figure. Some of us have a clue. Looks like your not one of us.

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    Verlander hasn't had anywhere near that success against the Yankees over the last two years. The Tigers ace faced the Yankees twice in 2011 and three times in 2012 and has nothing more than a 1-1 record with three no-decisions.

    Here are those five games:
    March 31, 2011, Opening Day at Yankee Stadium: Verlander went six innings and allowed three runs on three hits, walking four and whiffing eight. The key blow was a three-run homer by Mark Teixeira. Verlander (114 pitches) earned a no-decision, but the Tigers lost, 6-3.

    May 2, 2011, in Detroit: Verlander again went six innings allowing three runs, this time on eight hits. Once again he walked four and whiffed eight. These were the only two games in 2011 that Verlander proffered as many as four walks. The key blow was a two-run double by the now-retired Jorge Posada. Verlander (137 pitches) earned a no-decision, but the Tigers lost, 5-3. Like in the opener, Joba Chamberlain earned the win in relief.

    April 27, 2012, in New York: Once again, Verlander lasted just six innings (102 pitches) but the Yankees this time got to him for four earned runs, five overall, on seven hits. He didn't walk anyone but only struck out four. The key blows were homers by Russell Martin and Alex Rodriguez. It was another no-decision for Verlander, but another loss for the Tigers, this time, 7-6.

    June 3, 2012, in Detroit: Verlander went 6.1 innings and struggled, allowing nine hits and five runs, three earned. He walked four and whiffed four throwing 114 pitches. He took the loss as the Tigers dropped a 5-1 decision to complete-game winner, Phil Hughes. The key blows were a Robinson Cano triple, and home runs from Derek Jeter and A-Rod.

    August 6, 2012, in Detroit: Verlander was overpowering in an eight-inning performance striking out 14 Yankees. He did allow nine hits but walked only one while allowing two runs, both unearned. Curtis Granderson, Teixeira, and Ichiro Suzuki each struck out three times. Verlander and the Tigers won, 7-2.



    Bottom line numbers
    • Verlander went 1-1-3 while the Tigers were 1-4 during those five regular-season starts.
    • Verlander's ERA was 3.64 and his WHIP was 1.526.
    • Verlander pitched 32.1 innings allowing 13 earned runs on 36 hits, including five homers.
    • He walked 13 and struck out 38.
    • He threw 589 pitches, 54.3 percent were fastballs. His fastball averaged 89.6 mph peaking at 100.3.
    • Overall, the Yankees swung and missed on 65 pitches.
    • Yankee batters hit .279, slugged .481, and had an OPS of .823.
    Alex Rodriguez has hit .455 against Verlander the last two seasons with two homers, a double, and three RBIs including 4 for 6 this season.
    • Verlander owns a 5-4 record and 3.74 ERA in 13 career starts against the Yankees.
    Keep in mind, if the Yankees can once again get to Verlander, waiting in Game 4 is CC Sabathia who is 3-1-1 against Detroit over the last two seasons and perhaps a whole new ALCS.
    Bill Chuck is the founder and writer of Billy-Ball.com and is the editor and a contributor to BaseballAnalytics.org

    Source : Yahoo sports

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    from twitter:

    The last time the Yankees were +1 1/2 and cheaper than (-130) was 176 games ago in Tampa when they sat everyone. Before that, 8/31/11 @ BOS.
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    its all good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    call me crazy for describing a baseball team who hasn't been able to hit the ball let alone score runs lately a team that sucks!
    and we all know that every trend continues into eternity right?


    yankees might go down 3-0, they might not.
    either way yankees/over is a smart play for this game, they are still quite capable of scoring runs in bunches

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