[kenz]

Vamos Pablo, held from 0-40

[kenz]

Vamoss

[MiDNiTe]

take one pablo

[matt1216]

Fck Pablo wake up

[MiDNiTe]

damn pablo stop fukking around

[Cappinpicks]

lol every favorite won? what a gift

[JC1186]

TV has ZERO effect on any fixes

TV has zero effect on fixes? No that is fcuking hilarious!

[Cappinpicks]

agut -750 to a superior player

[JC1186]

agut -750 to a superior player

Superior player because he's ranked higher?

Rankings mean shiite. The only people who pay attention to it are the degenerate tipsters who lack intellect/have pea brains.

Not surprised one bit haha.

[Cappinpicks]

can goffin be the first upset? how often u see a clean sweep for favs in tenis

[Cappinpicks]

Superior player because he's ranked higher?

Rankings mean shiite. The only people who pay attention to it are the degenerate tipsters who lack intellect/have pea brains.

Not surprised one bit haha.

i took agut with montanes parlayed but why is posp still injured

[MiDNiTe]

fuk so close pablo going to screw this now

[JC1186]

i took agut with montanes parlayed but why is posp still injured

He's not injured. He just lacked match practice over the past few months and clearly isn't a player who finds his groove quickly.

As for sucking now - he's Canadian, tall and lanky.

In other words he barely played on clay growing up and even though he has pretty strong legs and moves pretty well on other surfaces, he clearly struggles with movement on clay.

Bautista-Agut is Spanish. That says it all.

[Cappinpicks]

Goffin to beat robredo

[JC1186]

Goffin to beat robredo

I've got $150 smackaroonies on the Goffin ML.

By only bet for the night.

[Cappinpicks]

hopefully clay doesnt ruin his game, how late can they play at this shitty hour tourny?

[MiDNiTe]

pablo mofo dont lose now after u wasted mps

[JC1186]

Goffin has a very decent record on clay relative to other surfaces.

Was tempted to take him for 1st set winner instead given he came through qualifying and has matches under his belt. Kind of regret it now.

Reason being I can see Tommy grinding out the match win even if he loses the first. Gofin however, he likely needs the first set. Hence I should ahve just taken those odds.

Ho hum!

[MiDNiTe]

the dik actually won, had to go thru all that stress but won all my bets fukn worth it

[Marillion]

Jesus Pospisil is worse than Anabel Medina Garrigues. Did u see those serves lol

[Cappinpicks]

he beat federer right? coming back on a TB pospi

[Marillion]

Well Stakhovsky also beat Federer but he isn't good on clay either. I saw some stuff from the match today and Pospisil was moving like Ivan Lendl after 2 beers (he did tons of unforced errors but that wasn't the main problem).
This reminds me of Nieminen - Young in Acapulco. Then, I took Jarkko at something like 1.5, he said in his blog "I'm here in Mexico in a good form blah blah". Then he loses in straights and writes that he barely moved and had problems with the humidity. I wonder if Pospisil was so horrible in his last match... I should have seen it instead of backing him to cover the spread without much research.

OK, end of moaning.

[Hardcoar]

Damn

Is this a fix?

Of course it is... a favorite you bet on is losing!!

[Cappinpicks]

please tell me how pussy hidalgo is a favorite to anyone let alone a good player... -180 LOL

[Hardcoar]

Superior player because he's ranked higher?

Rankings mean shiite. The only people who pay attention to it are the degenerate tipsters who lack intellect/have pea brains.

Not surprised one bit haha.

Who's the biggest jackass... Jackin'Dixx for jackin' dicks et al; or you for acknowledging him with a sincere response??

[Hardcoar]

srs wasting my time responding to this retard. read my post again, i said there are minimal fixes on big TV matches and fixes r more likely on small matches with little coverage, not there r no fixes on every darn event shown on tv.

last post responding to this. we going off topic over a stupid issue wen we should hav just enjoyed wat was a good match and be discussing that and nt this dumb fix topic

ITT there is no such thing as "off-topic".

[Hardcoar]

JC you dont have to find reasons why its not fixed. ...

You said it best yourself you clown – he doesn't have to find proof that which is the status quo – it is you making a claim that needs to supply the evidence.

[Hardcoar]

How do you know that both players are not involved. Sometimes you need both sides to cooperate. Look at the NBA when sides mysteriously cover or total of game goes over with last shot. Wide open 3, and most of the top NBA players can make that if not contested.

Its on the Tennis Channel right and the British commentators are mentioning the wild swings. They said " Sousa won first set which he should not won and Fognini won second set which he should not won". This is all code word for " Fix is in". They will lose their jobs if they outright suggested that was the case.

Its pretty clear, Fognini is a better player so can pretty much decides if he covers or not, if games go Over Games total or not. Crazy to see how many people are naive here to think games are not fixed. Tennis is perfect for all the spot betting, and only 1 or 2 individuals needed.

Have you even so much as GLANCED at volumes matched???


If you haven't, please don't run your mouth.

[Cappinpicks]

Who's the biggest jackass... Hardboar for jackin' dicks et al; or you for acknowledging him with a sincere response??

you dont know what a sincere response is, your life is on the internet

[JC1186]

Have you even so much as GLANCED at volumes matched???


If you haven't, please don't run your mouth.

That's incorrect Hardcour.

That match had HUGE amounts of money traded on Betfair. I think it was about 6 million near the end there. WAY more than usual.

Therefore the only "tell" is by following the odds live. How they "drifted" relative to the score in the match. This gives away whether it's a fix. You then look for huge amounts of liquidity on the Lay Market on the Mr. Fixer of the match.

This confirms the fix.

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Bettin Live on Betfai is a very interesting experience. With a lot of potential for huge amount of success.

I wish to take it very seriously soon. Live, with a few PC monitors (30" Dell's), and a full pro set up in all the ways that matter. Mental PROWESS being the no. 1 focus. But all the serious "systems" in place. You probably know what I mean. Think it now. Now times it by 5 lots of awesomeness.

For instance the Fognini/Sousa match. Let's talk about that briefly.

Fognini was 5-3 up in the first set. Having started as a 1.16 favourite, he traded as low as 1.04. Like I touched on above, for extremely large amount of CASH. Hundreds of thousands were @ 1.04. Similar amounts at 1.05, 1.06, etc.

Then all of a sudden Mugnini shows up and wins 3 of the next 19 points.

Miraculously, Sousa then trades at 1.04 for the match when serving for it and 30-0 up in the second set.

So both traded at 1.04. And then, yep, you guessed it.. It gets better. Fognini then goes on to win.

SO in summary. What this means is that if you laid say 1.10 (we'll be generous for a "strict" low odds layer) on both players and then distributed equal green amounts.. you would be KILLING it.

This kind of shit happens regularly on the ATP and of course, the (LOL) WTA.

Hope this helps gives people some understanding of it.

[Hardcoar]

That's incorrect Hardcour.

That match had HUGE amounts of money traded on Betfair. I think it was about 6 million near the end there. WAY more than usual.

Therefore the only "tell" is by following the odds live. How they "drifted" relative to the score in the match. This gives away whether it's a fix. You then look for huge amounts of liquidity on the Lay Market on the Mr. Fixer of the match.

This confirms the fix.

---

Bettin Live on Betfai is a very interesting experience. With a lot of potential for huge amount of success.

I wish to take it very seriously soon. Live, with a few PC monitors (30" Dell's), and a full pro set up in all the ways that matter. Mental PROWESS being the no. 1 focus. But all the serious "systems" in place. You probably know what I mean. Think it now. Now times it by 5 lots of awesomeness.

For instance the Fognini/Sousa match. Let's talk about that briefly.

Fognini was 5-3 up in the first set. Having started as a 1.16 favourite, he traded as low as 1.04. Like I touched on above, for extremely large amount of CASH. Hundreds of thousands were @ 1.04. Similar amounts at 1.05, 1.06, etc.

Then all of a sudden Mugnini shows up and wins 3 of the next 19 points.

Miraculously, Sousa then trades at 1.04 for the match when serving for it and 30-0 up in the second set.

So both traded at 1.04. And then, yep, you guessed it.. It gets better. Fognini then goes on to win.

SO in summary. What this means is that if you laid say 1.10 (we'll be generous for a "strict" low odds layer) on both players and then distributed equal green amounts.. you would be KILLING it.

This kind of shit happens regularly on the ATP and of course, the (LOL) WTA.

Hope this helps gives people some understanding of it.

What is incorrect? I didn't make a claim. I asked a serious question. If he has, then he can run his mouth.

[JC1186]

What is incorrect? I didn't make a claim. I asked a serious question. If he has, then he can run his mouth.

Do I really need to spell it out?

Oh well.

Have you even so much as GLANCED at volumes matched???

Volumes don't tell shit a lot of the time.

That Fognini V Sousa match had massive amount of liquidity! And I mean MASSIVE.

Where as I know due to a lot of experience that the match 100% was not a fix. I know my shit!

Often there is sweet fcuk all correlation!

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You made out looking at Volumes means so much in your reply to whoeveritwas.

I'm telling you it doesn't mean shit!

That's what's "incorrect".

[Hardcoar]

It's a good indicator. No extraordinary volues = no possibility of a fix.

Ergo, it does mean shit.

[gasto]

Hardcoar, your number 1 is issue,you are trying too hard to speak with authority. You act as if you have it all figured out. You are right , I did not look at volumes or whatever BS you look at.

The action in front of me is enough, to make my deductions. The same shit happened with next match. Looked like Andular was drowning, off course came back to win- miraculously. How much of that is influenced by point betting etc. You act as if the only market available is opening lines. Since you seem to know it all, can you tell of the total amounts bet on that match- how much was In game- Just curios

Does that not sound suspicious that this guy who was following odds say that Up 5 to 3 serving for game. odds to win were only 1.04 or something like that. Guess what. I have no proof but I am sure some wise guys at the books know Whats up and who is going to win. Clueless sheep trying to get "free" money in game get slaughtered because they think these games are just competition. No its a business and someone somewhere is out to get someone's lunch. I am a novice but you dont need to be an awesome handicapper to have a clue

[EaglesPhan36]

I thought his #1 issue was a comprehensive knowledge of Albino porn titles?