[pokerwhiz90]

Yea I'm calling them out betdsi offers better bonuses too

[wilson34]

You're a moron for not accepting the $50 freeplay. They tried to make it right with you, and you declined. Of course you got kicked out. You're a bittvch. Ain't nobody got time for dat!

[wilson34]

Why not take the $50 freeplay? Because it was $2 less than your tennis bets? You disgust me.

[tto827]

Why not take the $50 freeplay? Because it was $2 less than your tennis bets? You disgust me.

Because a $50 FP is nowhere near $50 cash.

He would have to win a bet with implied odds of less than 50% just to get his own money back..... In what world is that fair?

They way this ended is the way it should have started. Or they could have admitted mistake and just returned his stake, either is acceptable.

[teaz2win]

Because a $50 FP is nowhere near $50 cash.

He would have to win a bet with implied odds of less than 50% just to get his own money back..... In what world is that fair?

They way this ended is the way it should have started. Or they could have admitted mistake and just returned his stake, either is acceptable.

so he came on the forums to complain about 50 dollars and is now taking the moral high road and not accepting the free play but walking away with NOTHING... i call bullshit. He knew what he was doing.

[tto827]

so he came on the forums to complain about 50 dollars and is now taking the moral high road and not accepting the free play but walking away with NOTHING... i call bullshit. He knew what he was doing.

He is walking away with his stake returned..........

[pokerwhiz90]

I'm a happy camper they know that I would redeposit so they've been milking me but lately I've been on a run

[pokerwhiz90]

You're a moron for not accepting the $50 freeplay. They tried to make it right with you, and you declined. Of course you got kicked out. You're a bittvch. Ain't nobody got time for dat!

Your an idiot, after they screw me into a lose lose situation they want to give me a free play which would mean I would have to win at +105 odds just to get my cash back

[tevari]

This is laughable. I'm logged into heritage specifically to view the tennis board each and every morning and when I saw Kavcic up 3-1 and the game still on the board with a minute left, I thought - I bet some d-bag is going to try to take a shot here, and what do you know, Kavcic loses 5 straight games and a player cries theft. Knew it.

[pokerwhiz90]

This is laughable. I'm logged into heritage specifically to view the tennis board each and every morning and when I saw Kavcic up 3-1 and the game still on the board with a minute left, I thought - I bet some d-bag is going to try to take a shot here, and what do you know, Kavcic loses 5 straight games and a player cries theft. Knew it.

- whatever guys... you guys already know they played both sides of the fence.... and i didn't even cry theft because i was at an advantage when i complained

tevari, you don't even bother reading the forum so you should just stop or learn to read

[cloverfield]

I'm a happy camper they know that I would redeposit so they've been milking me but lately I've been on a run

once again shows bad judgement. you're on a run and you make a stink over $52 in plays when the evidence does not show in your favor.
you complained to Heritage CS at the exact moment your player got broken. now you lost your account at a great book over this very bad situation. I could be wrong but I think 99.4% of the wagering population knows the status of the game before they place a wager on it.

You either tried to take a shot or got caught up in a huge conspiracy. You should have accepted the olive branch Heritage extended because either way you knew it looked very very very very bad in your direction. Hoping for a 200-500 freeplay was out of line.

[pokerwhiz90]

once again shows bad judgement. you're on a run and you make a stink over $52 in plays when the evidence does not show in your favor.
you complained to Heritage CS at the exact moment your player got broken. now you lost your account at a great book over this very bad situation. I could be wrong but I think 99.4% of the wagering population knows the status of the game before they place a wager on it.

You either tried to take a shot or got caught up in a huge conspiracy. You should have accepted the olive branch Heritage extended because either way you knew it looked very very very very bad in your direction. Hoping for a 200-500 freeplay was out of line.

I was not hoping for a 200-500 freeplay.... that was just a comment earlier about stories I heard, honestly I just wanted my initial wager back and wanted to continue business. I just wanted them to admit that they made a mistake, and I also wanted to to clearly say that in the future if there are any bets made with incorrect times, that they would be voided - because what frustrated me was them flipflopping to whatever side was advantageous to them

I have some pending parlays which should hit, as long as OKC and the Pacers win their series, also they issued a payout which i'll probably receive tomorrow

They still have top notch service, it's just unexcusable that they would go back on their word

They are a great book, but I'm not sure if anyone can hold them accountable. They are like the Tiger Woods of the sportsbook world.

[alalha]

I've in the past have complained about heritage not being what it used to be but at the end of the day, I think they are the best offshore book that we have right now as far as cs be your money being safe. Enough said.

[Brebos]

You're a waste of account space, I wish heritage would accept new accounts from the netherlands

[wilson34]

OP is a pathetic cheater. Disgusting. Hope they deny his payout since he's a documented cheater.

[wilson34]

Crying over $52 and turning down a $50 freeplay. Absolutely pathetic. And you're expecting a payout from them? LOL

[evo34]

So we have two shot takers here: some random dude who bets $50 on tennis, and one of the three top US-facing sportsbooks. I'm not so much concerned about the random dude as I am about the fact that Heritage is most likely raping people whenever they happen to let a line stay up too long....which I'm sure is not all that infrequent, as is massively +EV for them to do so.

That's the only news here. Guys like the OP always have and always will exist. You'd think that a top 3 book would not be not be taking shots like this, however.

[Brebos]

So we have two shot takers here: some random dude who bets $50 on tennis, and one of the three top US-facing sportsbooks. I'm not so much concerned about the random dude as I am about the fact that Heritage is most likely raping people whenever they happen to let a line stay up too long....which I'm sure is not all that infrequent, as is massively +EV for them to do so.

That's the only news here. Guys like the OP always have and always will exist. You'd think that a top 3 book would not be not be taking shots like this, however.

Kinda feel bad for the guy now, we heckled his assPokerwiz you're a good kid, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Don't go to BetDSI and try to pull this shit again though, they'll ban your ass quicker than you can say "hallelujah"

[pokerwhiz90]

Kinda feel bad for the guy now, we heckled his assPokerwiz you're a good kid, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Don't go to BetDSI and try to pull this shit again though, they'll ban your ass quicker than you can say "hallelujah"

thanks man - yeah, im obviously no pro but im not a complete idiot when it comes to sportsbetting nor am i a slouch

things were just unfortunate, and obviously im not betting a few grand on some games like a lot of you

- i really wish i never bet that line like i say again, i knew it was trouble to begin with and that money was good as gone which is why i wanted to get out even before the wager was graded

since i'm kicked out of heritage now, i really don't have much to fear so i'm going to be posting everything up with the time stamps - because seriously they need to get their act fixed

like tto was saying earlier, people like me are good business for heritage haha, and through this thread i think there was much more damage done in showing their inconsistency than anything i could have really done

warning - don't bet on lines that are open when the game has started, if you do, just expect that bet to either be voided if you win or lost if you lose - that's just how the sportsbook industry is

i'm looking into depositing a good amount so if any sportsbooks are reading this - please woo me with some offers or free plays :P

[BrianLaverty]

OP knew exactly what he was doing.

Its painfully obvious he took a shot at Heritage.

And Heritage did what they should when players take shots at them... they took a shot back.

[tevari]

- whatever guys... you guys already know they played both sides of the fence.... and i didn't even cry theft because i was at an advantage when i complained

tevari, you don't even bother reading the forum so you should just stop or learn to read

i've been here much longer than you have. who are you? ask around, i think im a fairly knowledgeable & respected poster on the tennis boards and elsewhere. i know what you tried to do, you know what you tried to do, so we'll just call you a small time chump & leave it at that.

[pokerwhiz90]

alright i give up - im going to ask the mods to close up this thread

final words:
- guys i didn't take a shot, but its understandable to see that, i thought i provided ample proof but it seems some heritage clowns aren't giving it up either

i still think heritage is a good book, but they will do what is +ev for them always

[BrianLaverty]

Heritage management is probably the most player-friendly management of all offshore books. And even they see what you tried to do. I 100% do not blame them... you deserve it for taking a shot.

[Trident]

Glad to see Heritage do the right thing and show you the door.





Good luck finding a better book than Heritage that accepts US players.

[cloverfield]

- please woo me with some offers or free plays :P

I'm seeing a pretty consistent theme with the OP in this thread. Anyone else?

[BrianLaverty]

I'm seeing a pretty consistent theme with the OP in this thread. Anyone else?

What? That he's a shot taker and cheat?

Not only did Heritage do the right thing by kicking him out, SBR should ban him too for trying pull a scam to them.

[teaz2win]

I hope one thing is clear from this thread. If you are looking to strong arm a position with this forum you had better damn well think hard about what you are doing. If you are right SBR forum poster's will champion your cause... if you are wrong ....AWWWW HELL NAW... they will grill you harder than any law enforcement official ever could. Cheaters and Scammers be warned

[Brebos]

I hope one thing is clear from this thread. If you are looking to strong arm a position with this forum you had better damn well think hard about what you are doing. If you are right SBR forum poster's will champion your cause... if you are wrong ....AWWWW HELL NAW... they will grill you harder than any law enforcement official ever could. Cheaters and Scammers be warned

[BigDaddy]

So we have two shot takers here: some random dude who bets $50 on tennis, and one of the three top US-facing sportsbooks. I'm not so much concerned about the random dude as I am about the fact that Heritage is most likely raping people whenever they happen to let a line stay up too long....which I'm sure is not all that infrequent, as is massively +EV for them to do so.

That's the only news here. Guys like the OP always have and always will exist. You'd think that a top 3 book would not be not be taking shots like this, however.

well said

everyone misses that part

[noyb]

So we have two shot takers here: some random dude who bets $50 on tennis, and one of the three top US-facing sportsbooks. I'm not so much concerned about the random dude as I am about the fact that Heritage is most likely raping people whenever they happen to let a line stay up too long....which I'm sure is not all that infrequent, as is massively +EV for them to do so.

That's the only news here. Guys like the OP always have and always will exist. You'd think that a top 3 book would not be not be taking shots like this, however.

exactly. this thread is retarded.

i've been on sbr since, i don't know, 2006 and this entire thread really shows how fast things have gone downhill..
what the poster did or didn't do is completely irrelevant as well as the exact score in whatever part of the tennismatch; the old SBR wouldn't have even considered these circumstances; the book left out a line late and those bets should be voided. heritage's: "yeah, you know, sometimes if the match has just begun, we don't void".. WTF!?! they're implying they pretty much decide on whatever they feel like, that's ridiculously unprofessional, it's either a past-post or it isn't. and this obviously was.

if heritage doesn't like the guy, then boot him after they pay back his stake, nobody will object. but any suggestion that not returning his stake (or a lousy freeplay as some sort of a pathetic compromise) is somehow OK is completely ridiculous. the end-outcome: guy booted -> money back, is exactly the right one. pretty sad that apparently 75% of this forum only cares about whether some random guy used a bit of pocket-change to take a shot, while all you should really caring about are the fast detoriating standards of even the leading US-facing sportsbooks.

[robmpink]

I just read the first post and can tell most likely the person he bet won the first game, he made the bet then the player lost the first set and he is trying to get the $$ back saying it already started and should be voided.

I will start to read the rest. If I'm wrong I apologize and you could cuse me out. No one listens to me anyway.

[dynamite140]

Nothing wrong with what heritage did here.

[raydog]

"even after the game started there was only 1 or 2 games played which was considered acceptable to still to able to receive wagers on it."

this should be deleted... i bet every asshole with $1 is going to attempt to pound players 2-0 in the first , from now on...

[cockblocker]

where should i bet at guys - i need tennis lines, and flexibility in buying points, live lines, and fast cheap payout

You screwed yourself for being an idiot.

[daringly]

Issue #1: May a Sportsbook leave a line up after the match has begun?
Answer: Yes. Books have been doing this for years.

Issue #2: Must a Sportsbook void a wager that is slightly past-posted?
Answer: No, they are not required to. Many sportsbooks have left odds up after a long event starts, especially if the book believes the odds have not materially changed.

Issue#3: May a Sportsbook void a wager that is slightly past-posted?
Answer: Yes, if they did not intend to leave the market up when the wager was bet. Only the book can say what they intended, so they have a pretty wide latitude of when to void a slightly past-posted wager, as long as they are consistent.

You should draw two things from this dispute:
A. Heritage has done nothing wrong here; and
B. If you past-post a book, you are giving them a legal free-roll against you.