[wrongturn]

Any arbitrator in LV can work on this case? Monkey can you find one? Can not be yourself though.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I'm certain one could be found in LV.

Haha. Yeah. I would have to recuse myself anyway.

[prop]

Is there a time frame in which you'd expect your experts review to be concluded? Meaning are we going to be hearing in two more weeks he's still gathering details, or do you expect will be a quick process?

[raiders72001]

Different rules in Las Vegas. Not even close which is confusing some.

[Heritage Insider]

I think we both know why a UK arbitrator was selected, but let's just play coy instead.

The proposition itself suggests a certain bias in the preferred outcome.

I honestly don't know why SBR John selected a UK arbitrator. He did not consult with us on that. I would guess that since Cory (and others) accused this forum of being biased he wanted to go to a licensed arbitrator with no perceived bias.

[wrongturn]

Different rules in Las Vegas. Not even close which is confusing some.

If I am Heritage, I would consider it as an option available to Cory. Obviously this amount of money is not problem to them, and they want to get it right, as they claimed. So why not? But there could be some hurdles to make it happen due to online gaming legality in states.

[prop]

This issue had to be taken to mediation because our company policy is not to voluntarily pay a barred player who has used a beard.

We disagree. The burden of proof is not on us. Both sides present their side to a mediator and the mediator decides what proof is valid and what is not. The mediator we presented our side to was hand picked by Cory himself.

Cory lost the first mediation. We are prepared to go to another one of his choosing that is UK licensed.

Okay one blunt comment I won't harp on... but please I'd greatly appreciate if you could knock off the PR bullshit and stop acting like we're fools and talk straight. It is tilting me so bad I have to time and take walks between reading your posts. Your UK licensed arbitrator put the deposits up is cop out to not seeking a fair solution. Perhaps could save some reputation here and prove you're sincere about the charity and we can remove the idea you're trying to protect your bottom line no matter what the cost. Escrow.com the cash now. He wins he gets paid, cory loses it goes to charity. You made this commitment anyways with the charity. Heck I'll pay the escrow cost from my own pocket and i don't even have any financial interest in the case. I can feel happy knowing maybe I'm helping charity if a player is robbed. I'm getting ready to just put up my own money for the hell of it on Cory's side simply because I'm begining to not like you and want you to have the media exposure this win will bring.

[raiders72001]

1
Appellants Russell, Beth, and Kirk Erickson appeal the district court's order dismissing their complaint for lack of subject matter jurisdiction and for failure to state a claim. The Ericksons brought this action against corporate defendants operating Caesar's Palace Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada, seeking to recover a $1,061,812.00 slot machine jackpot won by Kirk, a minor. The Erickson's alleged breach of contract, quasi-contract, fraud and cheating, and interference with contract, and sought declaratory judgment regarding the unconstitutional implementation and enforcement of a Nevada statute. The Ericksons appeal only the dismissal of their third cause of action alleging fraud and cheating. We have jurisdiction pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1291 and affirm.

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/...42/694/282550/

[raiders72001]

Kid was a minor. He hit a jackpot but wasn't paid because minors are banned from playing.

[Heritage Insider]

Pretty soon we are going to see a "enjoyed the talk but need to go to work now" post from Heritage.It is easier to type that than give a reason why they aren't releasing any of the logs.

LOL. It's that time. I do have to go back to work. However it is not in our interest to release the tapes or logs to anyone but an accepted mediator/arbitrator until this case is settled.

Just like it's not fair for us to enter another arbitration unless Cory posts the deposits we returned from the last arbitration. The arbitrator could rule that Cory must forfeit all the money. If we let him keep the deposits he would be getting a free roll on us. :-)

If any of you have any questions you feel we didn't address you can PM me anytime.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Kid was a minor. He hit a jackpot but wasn't paid because minors are banned from playing.

Welcome to page 10.

[raiders72001]

Cory's not going to give his deposits to an arbitrator. This case is done.

[prop]

This issue had to be taken to mediation because our company policy is not to voluntarily pay a barred player who has used a beard.

And as to why I just mini-snapped is most of your posts suggest you're full of shit and nothing more than a common crook. Let's review:

First you say this situation hasn't happened before, didn't want this to happen, it's unfortunate. Then you say you're not familiar with it etc. Are consulting with an expert to see what the proper thing to do when a player sneaks back in.

Then you show back up and say the current status is arbitration is done, and he can take it to UK licensed one if he wishes. Two posters immediately are what happened to the expert. You comment on that.

The expert is being consulted for what happens when a player sneaks back in. Now you're stating company policy? WTF is this expert for again?

Furthermore Cory shared some posts where you allege posting on forums and giving bad press reduces his chances of being paid.

You are all over the map playing PR guy. Personally I suspect you're nothing but a wannabe thug. That's my read.

[MonkeyF0cker]

LOL. It's that time. I do have to go back to work. However it is not in our interest to release the tapes or logs to anyone but an accepted mediator/arbitrator until this case is settled.

Just like it's not fair for us to enter another arbitration unless Cory posts the deposits we returned from the last arbitration. The arbitrator could rule that Cory must forfeit all the money. If we let him keep the deposits he would be getting a free roll on us. :-)

If any of you have any questions you feel we didn't address you can PM me anytime.

Congratulations. You've successfully weaseled out of every single thing today.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Cory's not going to give his deposits to an arbitrator. This case is done.

Gee. I wonder why they're insisting that...

[prop]

....

[prop]

If we let him keep the deposits he would be getting a free roll on us. :-)

Did you misspeak again? Wouldn't it be a freeroll on Charity. not you?

[Heritage Insider]

Did you misspeak again? Wouldn't it be a freeroll on Charity. not you?

It's a joke Prop. Sorry you didn't find it funny. Carry on.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I honestly don't know why SBR John selected a UK arbitrator. He did not consult with us on that.

Ok. That's a weird statement. So what has been consulted between your two parties regarding this case?

That sounds very much like team-play. Does it sound fair to you?

[raiders72001]

Gee. I wonder why they're insisting that...

Cory lost. If he wants it arbitrated again then he stands the chance of losing everything. That's how appeals work. Monkeycourt doesn't exist.

[MonkeyF0cker]

If we let him keep the deposits he would be getting a free roll on us. :-)

It's a joke Prop. Sorry you didn't find it funny. Carry on.

Because it's appropriate to joke about taking tens of thousands of dollars from people.

Teehee. We got your money. Teehee. You can't freeroll us back! Teehee.

[Heritage Insider]

And why just snapped is most of your posts suggest you're full of shit and nothing more than a common crook. Let's review:

First you say this situation hasn't happened before, didn't want this to happen. Then you say you're not familiar with it etc. Are consulting with an expert to see what the proper thing to do when a player sneaks back in.

Then you show back up and say the current status is arbitration is done, and he can take it to UK licensed if he wishes. Two posters immediately are what happened the expert. You comment on that.

The expert is being consulted for what happens when a player sneaks back in. Now your back to having a company policy?

Furthermore Cory shared some posts where you allege posting on forums and giving bad press reduces his chances of being paid.

You are all over the map playing PR guy. Personally I suspect you're nothing but a wannabe thug. That's my read.

Regardless of your opinion. We felt that a rule was broken. The violator asked us to go to arbitration. We agreed and let him pick the arbitrator. He didn't like the results. We are still seeking a solution for him. AND... even though he lost the first arbitration we are willing to go another arbitrator. This point seems to be lost. That's why I keep repeating it.

I have treated your questions with respect and responded to them all. We are researching the rights of a barred player in regards to his winnings and we stand ready to go to arbitration again. While you have a right to your opinion this positioin has not changed. We will inform SBR Forums when we have a decision.

[cloverfield]

I really hope everyone understands that even if 20 licensed arbitrators and 15 experts rule against Cory.. All of his followers will still say its rigged and never end their "crusade".

Cory will NEVERRRRRRR return the initial deposits for another arbitration. He's counting his lucky stars he even got that back. He's just hoping Heritage breaks and gives him the winnings. He's got nothing to lose at this point.

[raydog]

i still want to know how they got 30k deposits mixed up with 19k deposits ... shame on you son for dragging your mother into your whoreshit

[MonkeyF0cker]

I really hope everyone understands that even if 20 licensed arbitrators and 15 experts rule against Cory.. All of his followers will still say its rigged and never end their "crusade".

Cory will NEVERRRRRRR return the initial deposits for another arbitration. He's counting his lucky stars he even got that back. He's just hoping Heritage breaks and gives him the winnings. He's got nothing to lose at this point.

That's wrong on so many levels. There is no way that I'd put my deposits back into risk with a UK arbitrator either. I don't care if I thought I had a lock solid case. There's a reason they're trying to use a UK arbitrator. There's a reason they're requiring him to put his deposits back into play. And it's not out of charity or righteousness as they want you to believe.

[MonkeyF0cker]

i still want to know how they got 30k deposits mixed up with 19k deposits ... shame on you son for dragging your mother into your whoreshit

Probably because the people who supposedly didn't monitor the action in their casino kept giving the player updates on their coin in action in the casino.

[boatboatboat]

So let's assume Heritage agrees to allow Cory to not return the deposits and go to a UK arbitrator , and the UK abritrator rules against Cory.

Does he than demand a 3rd arbritrator, and than a 4th, and than a 5th................until he finaly gets a ruling 100% in his favor?

Cory, if you want ANOTHER person to rule on your case, than IMO you need to return the deposits, and start back at square 1.

[MonkeyF0cker]

So let's assume Heritage agrees to allow Cory to not return the deposits and go to a UK arbitrator , and the UK abritrator rules against Cory.

Does he than demand a 3rd arbritrator, and than a 4th, and than a 5th................until he finaly gets a ruling 100% in his favor?

Cory, if you want ANOTHER person to rule on your case, than IMO you need to return the deposits, and start back at square 1.

He is at square one - minus some ridiculous transaction charges.

[Squared Box]

Regardless of your opinion. We felt that a rule was broken. The violator asked us to go to arbitration. We agreed and let him pick the arbitrator. He didn't like the results. We are still seeking a solution for him. AND... even though he lost the first arbitration we are willing to go another arbitrator. This point seems to be lost. That's why I keep repeating it.

I have treated your questions with respect and responded to them all. We are researching the rights of a barred player in regards to his winnings and we stand ready to go to arbitration again. While you have a right to your opinion this positioin has not changed. We will inform SBR Forums when we have a decision.

Let's be clear. You closed the account, took all the money, and said tough luck. Don't act like she had much of a choice in asking for arbitration; that was her only option to get her money back.

Seriously Heritage, how can you not realize how shady you look in this?

[prop]

So we didn't freeroll the player and are giving the money to charity. But we also want an opportunity for this charity to win his money too if we're going to give her a chance to get paid. So A) lost over $20K in casino with no opportunity to win. B) Heritage now is okay with the possibility arbitrator will rob the player's deposits too. Not satisfied with the freeroll are looking for a win (but oh wait somehow by some wacky definition, this wasn't a freeroll). Freak really confusing here. Only thing I can think of is they really like a specific charity and are eager to donate. Wonder when they'll be mentioning which charity they've selected and if they'll provide concrete proof of the donation or not?

[raiders72001]

Outside of cory, I haven't seen anyone complain about Heritage that plays at Heritage. The guy with the most complaints plays in Vegas and isn't all that familiar with offshore rules.

[raydog]

So we didn't freeroll the player and are giving the money to charity. But we also want an opportunity for this charity to win his money too if we're going to give her a chance to get paid. So A) lost over $20K in casino with no opportunity to win. B) Heritage now is okay with the possibility arbitrator will rob the player's deposits too. Not satisfied with the freeroll are looking for a win (but oh wait somehow by some wacky definition, this wasn't a freeroll). Freak really confusing here. Only thing I can think of is they really like a specific charity and are eager to donate. Wonder when they'll be mentioning which charity they've selected and if they'll provide concrete proof of the donation or not?

now you are just being a clown with your hatred towards the heritage guy... they paid the first request after the first royal was hit, so you guys theory on a free roll has been thrown out of the window already...if they knew it was cory, they wouldnt have paid the first payout...seriously, you are letting emotions get in the way of basic comprehension...

[prop]

now you are just being a clown with your hatred towards the heritage guy... they paid the first request after the first royal was hit, so you guys theory on a free roll has been thrown out of the window already...if they knew it was cory, they wouldnt have paid the first payout...seriously, you are letting emotions get in the way of basic comprehension...

WTF are you talking about. Getting freerolled is having money at risk that can only be lost with no opportunity to win. It is still a freeroll regardless.

But sure. There's now some evidence the freeroll wasn't "intentional". It is still a freeroll. Now asking him to stake his deposits over disputed winnings.. there is now intent.

[raydog]

WTF are you talking about. Getting freerolled is having money at risk that can only be lost with no opportunity to win. It is still a freeroll regardless.

they gave him a payout...what are you missing? there was never a free roll...how are they free rolling someone that they made a payout to?

[HedgeHog]

Outside of cory, I haven't seen anyone complain about Heritage that plays at Heritage. The guy with the most complaints plays in Vegas and isn't all that familiar with offshore rules.

I've certainly been treated very well there. Regardless how this casino case is resolved, funds are extremely safe at Heritage. The fate of a habitual scammer doesn't change this in the least.