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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Yeah, there are still some open around these parts.
    There used to be one in a strip mall near me but that recently closed.

    We were coming back from Fenway a few years back, we had the munchies and figured a quick buffet was the way to go. Big mistake.
    The food was putrid, the so called hot buffet was luke warm, the soup tasted like kitty cat urine...

    What I remember the most was some manatee type housewife smuggling roasted beef slices into a doggy bag and stuffing it into her handbag.

    The place even gave white trash people a bad name.

    Never again, now if I want white trash dinner we'll go to Cracker Barrell.
    At least they make a mean meatloaf and country fried steak.
    When did craker barrel become a restaurant? In my day (oh shit im sounding like my dead grand dad) it was a place to buy cheeses off the highway

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayLA View Post
    When did craker barrel become a restaurant? In my day (oh shit im sounding like my dead grand dad) it was a place to buy cheeses off the highway
    https://www.crackerbarrel.com/menu

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I guess it took a while to get to south florida

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    Anyway when I think of crackers I think of
    Stale kracker on youtube

    https://youtu.be/N_xsM7Whf7Y


    I'm going to post a play here to make this all useful

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayLA View Post
    Anyway when I think of crackers I think of
    Stale kracker on youtube

    https://youtu.be/N_xsM7Whf7Y



    I'm going to post a play here to make this all useful

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    No Shrimp Left Behind!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post


    No Shrimp Left Behind!!!!

    WhoooWeeeh!
    Money my dude

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    That's money

    Put that on a kracker

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    So check this out, from my office.

    This is what would happen if you bet the same unit on every UNDER or ever OVER this NFL Season.

    The first game of the season went UNDER and they haven't looked back. This does not count tonight's UNDER...




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    Despite the UNDERS killing it record wise, in 7 of the 15 weeks the average game score has been higher than the average closing Total line...



    Season to date the average closing Total is 44.6 while the average final score has been 44, but notice the median final score is 1.5 points lower than the median closer...

    2022 Season Hm Score Rd Score Total Lines Scores Hm Spread
    All games
    Avg 22.9 21.2 44.6 44.0 -1.5
    Med 23.0 20.5 44.5 43.0 -2.5


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    Notice week 16, this upcoming week, in the bar chart above. We are facing the lowest Totals this season.

    There is some wind out there, but there is also some cold this week.

    Here are some NFL weekly averages, including this upcoming week. The red and blue lines are just the tops of the bar graph above, the green line is wind.

    The yellow line is temperature and is represented by the right side axis...




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    Here's the breakdown of that Table above showing the 2022 Season so far. I already posted the Full Season and UNDER record.

    Now we'll add all the Weather games (non roofed dome) and further break those down into Wind at 12+ mph, 15+mph, and games with an average temp of 40 degrees or less, the cold games, and the average home spreads.

    Notice that, this season, when the wind is 15+ mph the Home Scores separate, as well as the home point spreads...


    UND Record 2022 Season Hm Score Rd Score Total Lines Scores Hm Spread
    123-100-1 All games
    Avg 22.9 21.2 44.6 44.121 -1.5
    Med 23.0 20.5 44.5 43.0 -2.5
    116-92-1 All Weather
    Avg 23.2 20.9 44.5 44.105 -1.5
    Med 23.0 20.0 44.5 42.0 -2.5
    23-13 Wind 12+ mph
    Avg. 21.8 18.9 43.6 40.7 -2.3
    Med 21.0 21.0 42.8 40.5 -3.0
    6-5 Wind 15+
    Avg 24.2 17.1 44.4 41.3 -3.8
    Med 23.0 17.0 44.5 43.0 -3.5
    14-11 40 Deg or Less
    Avg 21.0 21.0 43.8 42.0 -2.4
    Med 20.0 23.0 43.5 44.0 -3.0


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    Here are this week's games, Total lines, expected temps and expected winds, including tonight's game with NY and Jax, where there were high winds and the game ended UNDER.

    High winds and low temps give us some low totals, especially in Cleveland, that looks to lead in both extremes this week...

    Hm Team Rd Team Odds Temp Wind
    New York Jets Jacksonville Jaguars 36.5 48 17
    San Francisco 49ers Washington Commanders 37.5 61 4
    New England Patriots Cincinnati Bengals 41.5 20 13
    Kansas City Chiefs Seattle Seahawks 49.5 13 13
    Chicago Bears Buffalo Bills 39.5 9 22
    Carolina Panthers Detroit Lions 43.5 27 11
    Tennessee Titans Houston Texans 35.5 19 11
    Cleveland Browns New Orleans Saints 32.5 9 26
    Pittsburgh Steelers Las Vegas Raiders 38.5 12 15
    Dallas Cowboys Philadelphia Eagles 46.5 34 2
    Baltimore Ravens Atlanta Falcons 35.5 19 15
    Arizona Cardinals Tampa Bay Buccaneers 40.5 59 2
    Miami Dolphins Green Bay Packers 50.5 56 9
    Indianapolis Colts Los Angeles Chargers 45.5 15 5
    We did not get into what happens when we combine wind and cold and what happens when we regress these things, to seean effect on the line and results, with more historical data than just this season. That is for another time.

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    I love it...
    I'm on my phone on my couch Kay Vee Bee. Cant see all the graphs right. I'll check that out in my office asap.

    So what you're saying is......we should look for overs to Bet, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayLA View Post
    I love it...
    I'm on my phone on my couch Kay Vee Bee. Cant see all the graphs right. I'll check that out in my office asap.

    So what you're saying is......we should look for overs to Bet, right?
    That's a tough one. I'd like to say "look at these low lines, must be an overreaction" and we could see some OVERs this week in those games but this might not be the best week to try to hit OVERs.

    We're talking cold and wind, to an extreme, in those games. It's the NFL, so the Cleveland/NewOrleans game just might go OVER...LMAO.

    What about the home teams in those windy games though?

    Those home scores are a TD better than road scores when the wind is high, at least this season.

    Then again, high winds tonight and the road team won.

    Then again, again, it was an NFL Thursday night game. Classic NFL.

    I think we need to look at a this in a little more detail, have any of these lines moved too far? Is there a home team with moneyline value?

    We're going to have dive in, and dig deeper...


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    I for one appreciate you sharing all of this KVB
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    Cash Chinese cuntball over

    This thread is good luck for me.

    Cheers fellas

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayLA View Post
    Cash Chinese cuntball over

    This thread is good luck for me.
    I don't trust anything that bleeds for three days straight and lives.

    And yes, this thread radiates good karma, I think KVB's green buds are mainly responsible for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Here are this week's games, Total lines, expected temps and expected winds, including tonight's game with NY and Jax, where there were high winds and the game ended UNDER.

    High winds and low temps give us some low totals, especially in Cleveland, that looks to lead in both extremes this week...

    Hm Team Rd Team Odds Temp Wind
    New York Jets Jacksonville Jaguars 36.5 48 17
    San Francisco 49ers Washington Commanders 37.5 61 4
    New England Patriots Cincinnati Bengals 41.5 20 13
    Kansas City Chiefs Seattle Seahawks 49.5 13 13
    Chicago Bears Buffalo Bills 39.5 9 22
    Carolina Panthers Detroit Lions 43.5 27 11
    Tennessee Titans Houston Texans 35.5 19 11
    Cleveland Browns New Orleans Saints 32.5 9 26
    Pittsburgh Steelers Las Vegas Raiders 38.5 12 15
    Dallas Cowboys Philadelphia Eagles 46.5 34 2
    Baltimore Ravens Atlanta Falcons 35.5 19 15
    Arizona Cardinals Tampa Bay Buccaneers 40.5 59 2
    Miami Dolphins Green Bay Packers 50.5 56 9
    Indianapolis Colts Los Angeles Chargers 45.5 15 5
    We did not get into what happens when we combine wind and cold and what happens when we regress these things, to seean effect on the line and results, with more historical data than just this season. That is for another time.

    Thanks KVB for all the info good stuff.like the snow that Tony Montana
    Gets!! Not sure on his last name

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    So check this out, from my office.

    This is what would happen if you bet the same unit on every UNDER or ever OVER this NFL Season.

    The first game of the season went UNDER and they haven't looked back. This does not count tonight's UNDER...




    closing pinnacle lines? looking at some of the openers might be a little skewed because they are released so early nowadays for NFL in advanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Here's the breakdown of that Table above showing the 2022 Season so far. I already posted the Full Season and UNDER record.

    Now we'll add all the Weather games (non roofed dome) and further break those down into Wind at 12+ mph, 15+mph, and games with an average temp of 40 degrees or less, the cold games, and the average home spreads.

    Notice that, this season, when the wind is 15+ mph the Home Scores separate, as well as the home point spreads...


    UND Record 2022 Season Hm Score Rd Score Total Lines Scores Hm Spread
    123-100-1 All games
    Avg 22.9 21.2 44.6 44.121 -1.5
    Med 23.0 20.5 44.5 43.0 -2.5
    116-92-1 All Weather
    Avg 23.2 20.9 44.5 44.105 -1.5
    Med 23.0 20.0 44.5 42.0 -2.5
    23-13 Wind 12+ mph
    Avg. 21.8 18.9 43.6 40.7 -2.3
    Med 21.0 21.0 42.8 40.5 -3.0
    6-5 Wind 15+
    Avg 24.2 17.1 44.4 41.3 -3.8
    Med 23.0 17.0 44.5 43.0 -3.5
    14-11 40 Deg or Less
    Avg 21.0 21.0 43.8 42.0 -2.4
    Med 20.0 23.0 43.5 44.0 -3.0


    what is the purpose of sharing this information? what insights are we supposed to gleam from looking at single season statistics like that? how are you using this information? you reference historical data in the next post, maybe that is where the real insights are gleamed from. Maybe to get us thinking about variables like wind and temps and how that impacts the line setting and how we can use that in our forecasting/betting strategies

    saw in the later post you said we need to "dive deeper". I guess you are commenting on the need for further analysis beyond what was originally posted, I guess that answers my question kind of

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    I take Tiger whiskers daily.
    Couchgrass and crampbark, you know, I think that's what killed Curly.

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    Do you use hot water in the shower?

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    Eight degrees right now at 9am.
    Wind Chill is negative ten degrees.

    Yes Daggles, there is significant shrinkage.






    [IMG]2022-12-24[/IMG]

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Do you use hot water in the shower?
    What is this word shower 🚿 you speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Eight degrees right now at 9am.
    Wind Chill is negative ten degrees.

    Yes Daggles, there is significant shrinkage.






    [IMG]2022-12-24[/IMG]
    11 degrees here now. Going to be a cold 🥶 game later today!!!!

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    ^
    Up to nine degrees now.

    Surprised you guys are a little warmer in Boston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    ^
    Up to nine degrees now.

    Surprised you guys are a little warmer in Boston.
    We were at 7 degrees at 7am we up to 9 now also! I'm in the south for gods sake!

    Yesterday morning we were at 5 degrees at 7am! Holy crap!!

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