[ChalkyDog]

This is the paragraph from the article:

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” Robertson told GQ. “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

I do not personally feel that he said homosexuality leads to bestiality. I feel he was saying, "here is homosexuality and it is a sin of sexual nature. Now let's morph away (move away) from homosexuality and talk about other sexual sins such as bestiality, pre-marital sex, and adultery. I believe he was listing sins, not saying homosexuality is a gateway to bestiality. If you follow that logic you are assuming he is taking homosexuality then saying it leads to something that is more depraved like bestiality (and I think any sane person would say bestiality is depraved), and then saying he is talking about something more depraved then bestiality which is adultery (which he must clearly mean this RIGHT, since it is the next topic in the sentence?). I do not feel that adultery is more depraved than having sexual acts with animals, nor do I believe that he thinks that either. So I do not feel he is saying homosexuality is a gateway to bestiality or adultery, I just feel he was discussing different sexual sins.

Let me make this clear, I as a believer in God feel that all sinners are equal. I am a straight man who has only ever felt attraction towards women, but like everyone else I lust (so that makes me a sinner) and I lie at times (so that makes me a sinner). Because of myself being a sinner, I believe I am a person living in as much sin as a gay person and I believe I am as equally "bad" as them, plain and simple. I believe that accepting Jesus as lord and savior can allow you to be forgiven of sin, but I sin everyday just like everyone else on this earth.

Chalky, I respect your opinion as a person and all I ask is you respect mine. You don't have to agree with me, but just respect my opinion as I respect yours. Also I am in no way someone who talks about my religious beliefs during the day, so I am not trying to come off as some priest.

Honestly I would much rather just talks sports, since this is a sports forum. I made my original post to express my opinion and then I was focused on the duke/ucla game tonight.

Of course, the funny thing is that whatever A&E does, doesn't affect too much. They run a successful business producing a specific good and like others have said, I highly doubt that more than a small % of the people that buy his company's duck calls are the type of people that would stop buying them because he is speaking out against homosexuality.

Finally, as I have also said, I do not like that show and could care less if it goes off TV entirely. I do not understand the show's appeal, I just do not find his argument illogical.

He did.

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

It's not a matter if you personally believe if he said it or not. He did say it. That's the fact. This once again brings to the point your belief in a nonfact clouding your judgment on the matter.

[Darkside Magick]

He do say it in the quote.....key word is morph

[bubblebuttluv]

You guys are acting ignorant now.

In no one's mind, except for you guys; does homosexuality morph into bestiality, and then morph into adultery, and then morph into a not necessarily sexual thing such as idolatry, and then morph into male prostitution, and the morph away from sex into greed and swindling (all things mentioned in those two sentences).

Your atheism is blinding your logic.

I guess I had some guys like Chalky wrong. I guess you guys are those "angry, bitter type of atheists" that love to argue.

My argument was logical and shocker, christians, of which there are billions of us, can be highly logical.

[PAULYPOKER]

Wild animals fukk each other in the ass......

Are they gonna go to Hell too?

[Darkside Magick]

He list the things that can Morph from it......he don't list it like some lineage ....lmaoooooo

[bubblebuttluv]

He list the things that can Morph from it......he don't list it like some lineage ....lmaoooooo

If that is the logic you are personally using, then that makes sense.

Any belief can "morph" into any other belief.

An atheist can start believing an what they consider to presently be fairy tales and "morph" their point of view and become a religious person.

Chalky, why don't you e-mail Mr. Robertson for clarification since you are so rapped up in this topic?

[Darkside Magick]

A Christian on a gambling site...lmaoooo...cant make this shyt up.......God going to penetrate u up...

[bubblebuttluv]

A Christian on a gambling site...lmaoooo...cant make this shyt up.......God going to penetrate u up...

As I said, I am a sinner just like everyone else...

[stevenash]

It's very simple to understand, IMO.

Try mentioning that Santa or even god is black. All fictitious characters that take on whatever race the individual wants them to be. Yet, people will argue over it. Seriously argue over it.

Try mentioning it to the demographic Duck Dynasty aims its show at, and you will see some unexplainable opinions and people getting their panties in a wad.

Not my problem.
What I don't get is why that program, which is pretty good, is on a station such as A&E

[PAULYPOKER]

As I said, I am a sinner just like everyone else...

When ya gonna quit sinning?

When ya die?

[Darkside Magick]

I am a sinner
Who's probably gonna sin again
Lord forgive me
Lord forgive me
Things I don't understand
Sometimes I need to be alone
Bytch don't kill my vibe
Bytch don't kill my vibe

[bubblebuttluv]

When ya gonna quit sinning?

When ya die?

yes.

I was taught everyone sins everyday, whether it is one small lie that you hardly think about or you are having sex with your girlfriend.

At the end of the day, ask for forgiveness and try to get better.

Unreal, PAULY is an atheist too.

I just thought you were out there with UFO's and government takeovers. I didn't know you were a Hell bound atheist, if I'm talking real.

[ChalkyDog]

To the people who think his sentiment is acceptable because it is in the bible, my point is ignorance is ignorance - no matter the medium. Just because it was written thousands of years ago, doesn't make it any less ignorant.

So, those who agree with this guy, are by definition as equally ignorant, and it being in the bible does not make it any less acceptable.

Once again, why are you people picking and choosing which part of your sacred book are acceptable? The bible is filled with shit that are beyond stupid that have been caste aside. In time, this stupidity on homosexuality will also pass.

So, either realize it - or stand athwart history yelling stop. It's your choice, just don't be shocked when your choice gets criticized.

[BetsandBeer]

a guy named bubblebutluv talking like hes a christian to a gambling forum

recite your favorite 3 verses........thought so


either you gamble and fuk bubble buts or you dont pal. choose your path

[muldoon]

I just thought you were out there with UFO's and government takeovers. I didn't know you were a Hell bound atheist, if I'm talking real.

Can't he just accept Jeebuz on his death bed and cut the line to the cloud party?

[CarpeDime]

a guy named bubblebutluv talking like hes a christian to a gambling forum

recite your favorite 3 verses........thought so


either you gamble and fuk bubble buts or you dont pal. choose your path

no, i think the way it works is, if you are an atheist, you will burn in hell, even if you don't do many bad things in life

but if you claim to be a Christian, you will go to Heaven no matter what you do in life, as long as you keep saying you are a Christian and apologize later

so it's cool, if you are a Christian, you can literally do anything you want - lie, cheat, steal money, beat people up, whatever, but as long as you say you are a Christian, you will still go to Heaven in the end

so if you are Christian, you get the best of both worlds - on Earth you can steal as much as you want, and live a phat life, and you will still go to Heaven

but if you are an atheist, you get the worst of both worlds, because anything you do, Christians can slam you for, and even if you do way way less bad things than Christians do, you STILL end up in hell in the end anyway

wow, what a system

[Kermit]

My guess is that his suspension is just smoke and mirrors to appease the people that are bitching. This way the pissed off people will not protest A&E and then when they bring him back, if anyone bitches they can say that he was punished.

[PAULYPOKER]

yes.

I was taught everyone sins everyday, whether it is one small lie that you hardly think about or you are having sex with your girlfriend.

At the end of the day, ask for forgiveness and try to get better.

Unreal, PAULY is an atheist too.

I just thought you were out there with UFO's and government takeovers. I didn't know you were a Hell bound atheist, if I'm talking real.

I was brought up as an Trinity Lutheran,Sunday school,catechism,confirmed the whole works.....

[ChalkyDog]

My version of hell consists of being surrounded by a bunch of confused and judgmental Bible thumpers for eternity.it scares the living s*** out of me and quite honestly I'd rather go to the Christian hell,because at least id be surrounded by good people.

[muldoon]

I actually thought this quote would have caused more of a ruckus for him

"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once," he told GQ. "Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field. ... They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, 'I tell you what: These doggone white people' -- not a word!
"Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues," GQ quoted Robertson as saying.

[bubblebuttluv]

a guy named bubblebutluv talking like hes a christian to a gambling forum

recite your favorite 3 verses........thought so

either you gamble and fuk bubble buts or you dont pal. choose your path

What's up Smoke?

[BetsandBeer]

no, i think the way it works is, if you are an atheist, you will burn in hell, even if you don't do many bad things in life

but if you claim to be a Christian, you will go to Heaven no matter what you do in life, as long as you keep saying you are a Christian and apologize later

so it's cool, if you are a Christian, you can literally do anything you want - lie, cheat, steal money, beat people up, whatever, but as long as you say you are a Christian, you will still go to Heaven in the end

so if you are Christian, you get the best of both worlds - on Earth you can steal as much as you want, and live a phat life, and you will still go to Heaven

but if you are an atheist, you get the worst of both worlds, because anything you do, Christians can slam you for, and even if you do way way less bad things than Christians do, you STILL end up in hell in the end anyway

wow, what a system

being gay is 100% genetic. look at the feminine hands of transexuals. little girly hands even if they are 6'5

being a totally straight southern pastor with a deep voice and big strong hands is also genetic. why that guy is so consumed with the tranny is beyond me. maybe they feel the need to make the world as pure as possible and not just give up......but most ppl are just confused either way and dont know if being gay is wrong or right why would God make a f\*g or a pedo thats a pretty ****** up curse.

but really their are many many other issues like underage sex, drugs, inequality to superfocus on fags like so many churches do is pretty unfair. they cant help it. and that ones with the lisps that are forced into hetero marriages are hilarious

[Seaweed]

People are so ignorant that don't understand the TRUTH, and do not attempt to. Cultural relativism is destroying society.

[greenhippo]

You guys are acting ignorant now.

In no one's mind, except for you guys; does homosexuality morph into bestiality, and then morph into adultery, and then morph into a not necessarily sexual thing such as idolatry, and then morph into male prostitution, and the morph away from sex into greed and swindling (all things mentioned in those two sentences).

Your atheism is blinding your logic.

I guess I had some guys like Chalky wrong. I guess you guys are those "angry, bitter type of atheists" that love to argue.

My argument was logical and shocker, christians, of which there are billions of us, can be highly logical.

From what I read the Duck Dynasty guy does think that.

[ChalkyDog]

You guys are acting ignorant now.

In no one's mind, except for you guys; does homosexuality morph into bestiality, and then morph into adultery, and then morph into a not necessarily sexual thing such as idolatry, and then morph into male prostitution, and the morph away from sex into greed and swindling (all things mentioned in those two sentences).

Your atheism is blinding your logic.

I guess I had some guys like Chalky wrong. I guess you guys are those "angry, bitter type of atheists" that love to argue.

My argument was logical and shocker, christians, of which there are billions of us, can be highly logical.

I can find numerous examples of Christians, all the way up to federal judges who use this idea of homosexuality leading to bestiality. Hell, Arizona and their bible thumping conservative legislature introduced a bill last year based loosely on this same logic. It was a bill that banned hybrid breeding. Man/pig Man/donkey type shit. I am not joking.

I can find numerous christian's who used the same bestiality red herring in the interracial marriage debate.

Only two things remained consistent with both debates, Conservative's and Christians were trying to oppress fellow human's based on nothing else than ignorance found in some sacred book that was written thousands of years ago.

[Cuse0323]

I enjoy the use of the word ignorant these days.

[andywend]

it takes a special kind of deuchebag to tell another human being what he is supposed to like and how he is supposed to act

Liberal assholes like you to continue to ignore the 1st amendment when the speech isn't politically correct. If he was sticking up for the gay community, you would be praising him.

[andywend]

I was thinking the same thing about A&E.

Season 5 starts next month, are they going to edit out Phil?

This is the only reality show I watch.

The 90% of the population that is not gay needs to boycott the network. Lets start doing what those slimy democrats do as it seems to work.

[andywend]

Another ignorant opinion from a bible thumping loon. Only thing shocking is it took this long for him to say this kind of dumbshit.

His homosexuality is a gateway to bestiality is a clear Republican bible thumping talking point.

People like you really make me sick. If homosexuals kept their depraved acts behind closed doors as opposed to having gay pride parades every other weekend, then nobody would have a problem with them. Do you really think its natural for 2 men to be pumping each other's anuses and French kissing each other? You're a young liberal democrat and your views will change once you become older and wiser.

[stevenash]

The 90% of the population that is not gay needs to boycott the network. Lets start doing what those slimy democrats do as it seems to work.

There is a petition page on Facebook that is already a mile long.

Funny, the actor gets fired for saying pretty much what the Pope said that earned him man of the year honors.

Liberals aren't going to be happy until they get both the first and second amendments abolished.

[swordsandtequila]

Liberal assholes like you to continue to ignore the 1st amendment when the speech isn't politically correct. If he was sticking up for the gay community, you would be praising him.

Um, the first amendment protects freedom of expression from government interference. Last I knew A&E wasn't the government. Robertson wasn't arrested. He wasn't jailed. His property wasn't confiscated. Nobody's taking away his right to free speech, but free speech is a two-way street. You have the right to say dumb sh*t, others have the right to call you on it. Don't like it keep your mouth shut. Simple. The network is covering it's ass from potential sponsor backlash. Bottom line is all they care about. The rest is fodder for conservative nitwits to get their panties in a bunch. This isn't about ideals, it's about money.

[rkelly110]

The 90% of the population that is not gay needs to boycott the network. Lets start doing what those slimy democrats do as it seems to work.

90% of the population agrees with Phil, it's the 10% that has a problem with what he said.

I agree with you, most of us don't want to see their gayness or hear about their anal adventures. (eh, crap on your dick, carpedime)

[Kermit]

People like you really make me sick. If homosexuals kept their depraved acts behind closed doors as opposed to having gay pride parades every other weekend, then nobody would have a problem with them. Do you really think its natural for 2 men to be pumping each other's anuses and French kissing each other? You're a young liberal democrat and your views will change once you become older and wiser.

And not only that but they have these Gay equal rights parades just to show how unequal that they really are and throw it in the regular folk's faces. this is completely unnecessary. If they want to be Gay, no problem, but we don't need this shit and our children don't need to be confused as to what it is all about.

[RubberKettle]

HAHAHA Duck Dynasty will leave A&E and join another network. Congratulations A&E you were relevant for about 3 seasons, but now its back to showing reruns of staged storage wars.

You must fully embrace gays or you are infringing on the way they live, you're racist sexist and a bigot... What a fukn joke this whole thing is.

[rkelly110]

And not only that but they have these Gay equal rights parades just to show how unequal that they really are and throw it in the regular folk's faces. this is completely unnecessary. If they want to be Gay, no problem, but we don't need this shit and our children don't need to be confused as to what it is all about.

I had an operation and was in the hospital waiting to be discharged when those slime balls were out front flittering
around in a parade, like your picture. One of them looked up at me, 7 floors up, looking out my window and waved.
I flipped him off. It's shit like that that disgusts us and why we can't take them serious. Other than that, I could care less
about their pole smoking ways.