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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy View Post
    49ers win Super Bowl +1000
    Patriots win Super Bowl +850
    Giants wont make playoffs -240
    Vikins wont make playoffs -800
    I think your better bet would be Eagles to win division at -125.

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    Cowboys not making the playoffs is good value to me. That Cowboys defense is going to be absolutely dreadful with all the injuries and suspensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWoodstick View Post
    Cowboys not making the playoffs is good value to me. That Cowboys defense is going to be absolutely dreadful with all the injuries and suspensions.
    That is what I played at about -230, before it jumped up to -400.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwil125 View Post
    That is what I played at about -230, before it jumped up to -400.
    That's excellent value. Good work. -360 now on 5dimes.

    Wanted to hear about your opinion on teasers Nunya. Are they mathematically an acceptable method of wagering on the NFL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWoodstick View Post
    That's excellent value. Good work. -360 now on 5dimes.

    Wanted to hear about your opinion on teasers Nunya. Are they mathematically an acceptable method of wagering on the NFL?
    NFL teasers should be the majority profit-center for any professional bettor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    NFL teasers should be the majority profit-center for any professional bettor.
    Really? I thought teasers were for chumps? Please drop a knowledge bomb on me, kind sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdeal View Post
    Really? I thought teasers were for chumps? Please drop a knowledge bomb on me, kind sir.
    The way most people play teasers are for chumps.

    Football scoring is non-linear and allows for all sorts of interesting situations to develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    The way most people play teasers are for chumps.

    Football scoring is non-linear and allows for all sorts of interesting situations to develop.
    As in teasing past the zero for favorites who should win outright?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwil125 View Post
    As in teasing past the zero for favorites who should win outright?
    Teasing through the zero is almost always a huge mistake.

    I'll give a good example of a teaser though. A typical 6pt -110 teaser leg is th equivilant of betting -241 (if you're not sure why, you should think about it for a moment). Occasionally the market will price a -6.5 favorite at something like -280/+250. Taking favorite -.5 is the same as taking it straight up (for the same reasons why teasing through the zero is a mistake.)

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    Best books for teasers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omalley21 View Post
    Best books for teasers?
    Locals, or tiny books that no one is talking about.

    Most books are actively fighting against profitable teasers now, which creates another subset of profitable teasers in its own right.
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    I noticed last night that sportsbook didnt offer teasers anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omalley21 View Post
    I noticed last night that sportsbook didnt offer teasers anymore.
    You sure? Possibly they just don't offer them to you anymore. They cut me off from all teasers and parlays last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    lol,


    some people got tennis added so worth a shot. Just open live chat and tell em you'd like to add a request for the contest and they will transfer you, wont be tony tho.
    sweet, got em in

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    sweet, got em in

    Nice! Unfortunately already placed my pick for the day. Mind posting what the lines are?

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    Date Game Number Team Spread Total
    07:00 PM
    Fri 09/05/14
    1003 Mousasi/Souza goes 5 round distance <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16504" type="radio"> pk
    1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16505" type="radio"> pk
    07:00 PM
    Fri 09/05/14
    1133 Overeem wins by TKO/KO <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16501" type="radio"> pk
    1134 Any other result <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16502" type="radio"> pk
    07:00 PM
    Fri 09/05/14
    1237 Mitrione/Lewis starts round 2 <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16498" type="radio"> pk
    1238 Fight won't start round 2 <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16499" type="radio"> pk
    07:00 PM
    Fri 09/05/14
    1301 Chiesa/Lauzon over 2½ rounds <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16495" type="radio"> pk
    1302 Chiesa/Lauzon under 2½ rounds <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16496" type="radio"> pk
    07:00 PM
    Fri 09/05/14
    1401 Lentz/Oliveira goes 3 round distance <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16492" type="radio"> pk
    1402 Fight won't go 3 round distance <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16493" type="radio"> pk
    07:00 PM
    Fri 09/05/14
    1601 Laquinta wins by 3 round decision <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16489" type="radio"> pk
    1602 Not Laquinta by 3 round decision <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16490" type="radio"> pk
    07:00 PM
    Fri 09/05/14
    1901 Soriano/Skelly goes 3 round distance <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16507" type="radio"> pk
    1902 Fight won't go 3 round distance <input name="btnradio" id="0" title="Spread" value="16508" type="radio"> pk
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    Nvm

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    I'm not seeing the mma lines in the contest... Pulled them all down at 7 damn.

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    i took army undr 60 n contest. real line is 52. didnt even look at the rest of lines after that 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Teasing through the zero is almost always a huge mistake.

    I'll give a good example of a teaser though. A typical 6pt -110 teaser leg is th equivilant of betting -241 (if you're not sure why, you should think about it for a moment). Occasionally the market will price a -6.5 favorite at something like -280/+250. Taking favorite -.5 is the same as taking it straight up (for the same reasons why teasing through the zero is a mistake.)

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    Wish I would've seen this live, I'd have had some questions:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...ker_at_bovada/

    Best quote:

    "I'm an avid gambler and I always wanted to work in sports gambling- how did you get in your position?<form action="http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2fhbw3/i_am_pat_morrow_the_head_nfl_oddsmaker_a t_bovada/#" class="usertext" id="form-t1_ck98a0sdgb" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-size: small;">One stupid question (maybe) what are the restrictions on betting for you since you are an oddsmaker?


    </form>





    [–]Bovada_Oddsmaker[S] 9 points <time title="Thu Sep 4 20:23:21 2014 UTC" datetime="2014-09-04T20:23:21+00:00" class="">1 day ago</time>
    <form action="http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2fhbw3/i_am_pat_morrow_the_head_nfl_oddsmaker_a t_bovada/#" class="usertext" id="form-t1_ck990pvdml" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-size: small;">I kind of fell into it. I had been wagering on sports from a very young age with medium levels of success. While I always thought that I just "got sports", having a mathematical background helped me quantify what I was seeing, and then eventually, what and how I was betting.
    Because there isn't often a 'Help Wanted' sign when it comes to these positions, I'd recommend familiarizing yourself with the ins and outs of excel, programming and intense mathematics. Then go out and start crushing books. The best way to get noticed by sportsbooks is to go and take their money."


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    Shit, the job offers should be rolling in by now, then shouldn't they>?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Locals, or tiny books that no one is talking about.

    Most books are actively fighting against profitable teasers now, which creates another subset of profitable teasers in its own right.
    Teased colts/saints.
    Last edited by omalley21; 09-06-14 at 07:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omalley21 View Post
    Teased colts +9 -130 to +16 and its still -110 haha.
    That's another one.

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    Actually -105 at dimes wow, didn't even use 5d for teasers until you mentioned that.
    Last edited by omalley21; 09-06-14 at 07:51 PM.

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    I was wrong Sportsbook does allow teasers still just gotta select parlay card now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    A typical 6pt -110 teaser leg is th equivilant of betting -241 (if you're not sure why, you should think about it for a moment).
    isnt it -262?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    isnt it -262?
    I was unclear in what I MEANT to say. I mean the breakeven point for a 6 point teaser leg is equivalent to -241, the vig-free line.

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    Some longshots I like (at sportsbook):

    Gerald McCoy defensive player of the year +5000

    The Bucs D is gonna be great this year and McCoy is an absolute monster, borderline unblockable.

    Dominique Easley +6000 defensive rookie of the year.

    The Seahawks wanted Easley in round 1 but Belichick snagged him at 29 before they could. He was projected to be a top 10 pick but injuries dropped his stock. Patriots secondary improved a ton with Revis and Browner, which will result in more coverage sacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    What’s Ahead for Rory:
    With Rory’s run of success every poor round is apt to be magnified beyond proportions. Even great players play poorly some days. Rory’s expected to have a round as bad as Thursday’s only around once every 25 rounds, so this is likely as poor as we’re apt to see him play for awhile. What’s important isn’t really this round, but how he’s had success so far this year. Rory emerged as a star and won his first two majors in 2011 and 2012 while being wholly dependent on his driver/irons for success. He was the best in the world on those long shots in 2011-12, while his putting was average or a bit worse. Last year, his driving was wild and he lost a lot his long game that had made him great. This year, the driving is as good as ever and his irons are great, but what’s really different is his success with the putter. He’s jumped to 21st on Tour in putting, gaining about half a stroke from putting compared to the last few seasons. Over this latest run of wins his putter has been nuclear hot (+1.20 strokes vs. the field). That’s been enough to take him from one of a group of 3-4 elite players to the best in the world.
    The problem is putting is hugely random. Players putt well above their talent level for months and then regress. Up until July, McIlroy had putted at +0.16 strokes gained for the season and slightly below average for his career. Since then he’s at +1.20 strokes gained. This post deals with the small sample randomness involved with putting; nothing McIlroy is doing on the greens indicates to me that he’s going to sustain the level of putting that won him two majors in the last month. When his putting returns to his career norms, he’ll still be the best player in the world, but as more of a 1A to Sergio, Adam Scott, and Justin Rose than the next Tiger/Jack that he’s been made out as the last few weeks. His long game (driving/approach shots) is the best in the world largely because he’s in another universe off the tee. When Tiger was dominant for a decade he combined the best long game in the world with top ten putting; nothing Rory has done shows that he’s capable of putting that well for the long haul.
    McIlroy’s Strokes Gained per Shot Link tournament since 2011. His putting surge in the last few months is obvious.
    As advertised.

    http://www.pga.com/news/golf-buzz/ro...secutive-day-0
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    5Dimes $50 prizes as of 9-10

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    -Philips SBT75 Bluetooth Wireless Portable Speaker (White)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumdeal View Post
    5Dimes $50 prizes as of 9-10

    -Olympus Stylus VG-180 16-Megapixel 5X 26mm Wide Optical Zoom 2.7 Inch LCD - Black
    -Philips SBT75 Bluetooth Wireless Portable Speaker (White)
    -Apple iPod shuffle 2GB Space Gray (4th Generation) NEWEST MODEL
    -TIMEX Ironman 30-Lap Women's Mid-Size Watch by Timex
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    -High Sierra Vex Backpack
    -Jabra TOUR Bluetooth In-Car Speakerphone - Retail Packaging - Black
    -Sennheiser HD 419 Headphones, Black
    Odd how much they seem to change them.

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    Ryan Palmer wins Tour Championship +5000 at 5d

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Ryan Palmer wins Tour Championship +5000 at 5d
    fyi, same price at sportsbook

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    fyi, same price at sportsbook
    Should I hit the Max button just to get a laugh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Should I hit the Max button just to get a laugh?
    lol $4, but at least its playable. not one of these 50 cent slaps in the face.

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