1. 06-19-12 11:42 AM #106
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    only one ringer I saw listed on the odds: Said

    there aren't so many ringers that I've seen when I've been following. According to what I've read, there used to be more.
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  2. 06-19-12 11:45 AM #107
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    Just took Kahne +2700 as a longshot pick.
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  3. 06-19-12 11:46 AM #108
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    yeah very few ringers anymore

    and they dont do well anyways...

    cup regulars focus on the road courses alot more than they use to and have got alot better

    thats why they arent used much anymore
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  4. 06-19-12 11:47 AM #109
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    kasey kahne (+2700)
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  5. 06-19-12 11:51 AM #110
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    Also the ringers tend to run nationwide more at road america. Fellows runs real good there
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  6. 06-19-12 01:29 PM #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reno Paul View Post
    I will be playing Ambrose.....Doubt his odds are going to improve as of now....I'll probably throw a few more bucks on it to make up for me being asleep.
    good thing u did

    ambrose +300 now

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  7. 06-19-12 03:04 PM #112
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    ruetimann will NOT be in the #10 this weekend at sonoma

    tomy drissi (ringer) will be in the car
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  8. 06-19-12 03:25 PM #113
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    Who the hell is he Mike
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  9. 06-19-12 04:01 PM #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    ruetimann will NOT be in the #10 this weekend at sonoma

    tomy drissi (ringer) will be in the car
    Never heard of him can't believe you have any info on him mike
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  10. 06-19-12 04:23 PM #115
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    i have no clue in hell who he is...

    just read an article that said hes in #10 car
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    Better not be another Aussie V8 super car ringer
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  12. 06-19-12 05:07 PM #117
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    He is american. Races in American Le Mans Series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    He is american. Races in American Le Mans Series.

    Had not heard Of him thanks
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    never heard of him either, must be his nascar debut
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    never heard of him either, must be his nascar debut
    Evidently has run a few nationwide races, but first cup start
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  16. 06-19-12 07:45 PM #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    never heard of him either, must be his nascar debut
    Yeah, first cup start but competed in 2 other road races in Nationwide. Nothing special IMO, he is not going to figure in result.
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    i thought menard was supposed to be a good road racer....i don't see it.

    is robby racing? he could win, or take out half the field...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickie65 View Post
    i thought menard was supposed to be a good road racer....i don't see it.

    is robby racing? he could win, or take out half the field...
    He is racing and will agree on wiping out half field
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  19. 06-20-12 12:17 AM #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post

    Yeah, first cup start but competed in 2 other road races in Nationwide. Nothing special IMO, he is not going to figure in result.
    Jayski says he is the "Trans Am Champion"
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  20. 06-20-12 01:44 AM #125
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    Do you give that much rating?

    He sounds like an ok road racer, but I can't see him mixing it at the front.
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  21. 06-20-12 02:58 AM #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    Do you give that much rating?

    He sounds like an ok road racer, but I can't see him mixing it at the front.
    I don't know him. I thought Trans Am was a historic series only.
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  22. 06-20-12 03:21 AM #127
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    I think they run a modern version still with latest model corvette's, mazda's, mustangs, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickie65 View Post
    i thought menard was supposed to be a good road racer....i don't see it.

    is robby racing? he could win, or take out half the field...
    menard is terrible here
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    Menard ex formula 1 driver this race similar to formula 1 not the same speeds but because of a rd course think only a handful of drivers can win this weekend so many ringers as such
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    Menard has never done anything at sonoma OR the glen

    absolutey awful...17th best finish at sonoma and 16th at the glen are his best finishes..never even at top 15 finish at a road course


    sonoma: 17th, 21st, 22nd, and 34st...
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  26. 06-20-12 08:24 AM #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    Menard ex formula 1 driver this race similar to formula 1 not the same speeds but because of a rd course think only a handful of drivers can win this weekend so many ringers as such
    Shaun, Paul Menard has never raced in formula 1.

    He has only very limited road racing experience, and only briefly when he first got into racing. Never outside of USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    Shaun, Paul Menard has never raced in formula 1.

    He has only very limited road racing experience, and only briefly when he first got into racing. Never outside of USA.

    As usual I'm wrong again sorry guys could of swore I've seen him in f1

    Anyways don't fancy him this weekend
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    You might be thinking of Scott Speed.
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  29. 06-20-12 12:07 PM #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    You might be thinking of Scott Speed.
    Was about to say same thing.


    Speaking of F1, got any insight for Valencia this weekend Matt? Hard to go past Vettel I think?

    Also F1 related, I am going to put 10 bucks on Piquet in Nationwide this week, but probably go 3 or 4 units on McDowell... hoping he is over +1200

    Was hoping Aussie Steve Owen would be back for this race this year too... he gave it a great shake last year.
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  30. 06-20-12 01:58 PM #135
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    Couple qualifying plays for Sonoma

    Montoya -120 over Edwards

    Stewart -105 over Gordon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Couple qualifying plays for Sonoma

    Montoya -120 over Edwards

    Stewart -105 over Gordon
    those are 2 Q H2H that are tough

    totally toss ups

    ill be rotuing 4 ya
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    i was going to take a H2H in Qualifying but nne have a real advantwage this week so think ill just watch
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    i was going to take a H2H in Qualifying but nne have a real advantwage this week so think ill just watch
    Rare week you can get Johnson at + money qualifying
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    Robby Gordan v Said is probably the best quali matchup. If we can work out which one has the least crappy car before practice starts...
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    theres a good reason for the though

    newman usually Q-better than him every race at sonoma
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