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03-09-14 07:50 AM #421
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pigpenII gave 5mike5 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.
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03-09-14 07:57 AM #422
That mac over Vickers was one of the 4 H2H's I was looking at closely.
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03-09-14 07:59 AM #423
Let's get the racing started! Originally Posted by 5mike5
goodluck buddy
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03-09-14 07:59 AM #424
yeah at +odds i loved it... Originally Posted by pigpenII
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03-09-14 08:11 AM #425
i still cant figure these bowyer odds out..baffling to me...WAY WAY off
all i can see is he did well on 1-lap practice sheets...
but his 10-lap averages werent there at all....
guess they see him on 1-lap practice charts and think oh wow hes great
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03-09-14 08:18 AM #426
I've been scratching my headon that one too. 3rd favorite at the greek. Really???? Originally Posted by 5mike5
i still cant figure these bowyer odds out..baffling to me...WAY WAY off
all i can see is he did well on 1-lap practice sheets...
but his 10-lap averages werent there at all....
guess they see him on 1-lap practice charts and think oh wow hes great
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03-09-14 08:22 AM #427
tied for 4th @ the moment at dimes, but he should drop alot... Originally Posted by pigpenII
theres NO BASIS for it at all, besides the 1-lap practice sheets he was top 5 most all of them....
that wouldnt even help his GWC chances
bookd are just clueless, thats why they need us to set their prices right for them
he finished 2nd like 5-6 years ago and not a top 5 since...so its not previuos success here eitherLast edited by 5mike5; 03-09-14 at 08:26 AM.
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03-09-14 08:25 AM #428
just goes to show what i say all the time...
1-lap practice sheets books REALLY pay attention to them...and they are USELESS unless u maybe bet qualifying cause thats all they are is qualifying runs most of the time
and so does joe "im clueless" non nascar fan public
only thing that even matters a little is 10-lap averages, and even that depends on the racetrack cause at least ur keeping ur speed for a little bit of a distance...
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03-09-14 08:31 AM #429
jimmie +475 now at dimes, he creeping to other books now....
thats how much u can lose not being there when they post...over a point down on the race fav already since dimes posted
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03-09-14 08:46 AM #430
I heard bowyer's car bounced around the least when going from the apron up the track Originally Posted by 5mike5
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03-09-14 08:48 AM #431
Why has Logano dropped since qualifying? Something I'm missing? I thought betting him early was a smart move...oh well.
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03-09-14 08:49 AM #432
it was a GREAT move betting him early? i did Originally Posted by pigpenII
he was +1700 on openers (well think +1500 @ greek)
now hes +950!
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03-09-14 08:51 AM #433
At least I have Edwards at a good price. Originally Posted by pigpenII
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03-09-14 08:51 AM #434
well thats not THAT big a deal, still doesnt validate the odds...not even close Originally Posted by GP
and thats def. not the reason the books dropped him like a rock from +3000 or whatever he started at
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03-09-14 08:52 AM #435
Didn't realize. Got started looking at odds late. I took him +1000 before qualifying and can get him at +1200 now. Originally Posted by 5mike5
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03-09-14 08:53 AM #436
yeah 20/1 on openers was the best value of the week... Originally Posted by pigpenII
even yesterday +1800 i even psted that was insane great odds for him here
wins, 3 straight top 5 finishes
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03-09-14 08:54 AM #437
oh srry i thought u meant begining of the week Pig... Originally Posted by pigpenII
just add a few bucks and make up the diff...wouldnt take much...if it even makes that big a differnce to ya...
still not that bad though...hell we all miss early bets every week...thats why i had to add to kahne, i bet him +975 early, and added at +1300 already and he may still drop....but logano/edwards plays made up for that and much more
considered using him as cover if the #s work out but doubt i will unless i add another driver or something and #s still work out to where any of my plays payoff
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03-09-14 08:54 AM #438
I guess Iwill just have to add to it. lol Originally Posted by pigpenII
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03-09-14 08:57 AM #439
yeah i would, funny i posted that above just now Originally Posted by pigpenII
Last edited by 5mike5; 03-09-14 at 09:24 AM.
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03-09-14 09:10 AM #440
I read that the last four times that JJ's had the fastest 10-lap practice speed, he's won the race.
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03-09-14 09:23 AM #441
Final roster
Jimmy +600
Kasey k +1400
Edwards +1600
Harvick +1400
Decided no cover in the end
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03-09-14 09:40 AM #442
Boy - I couldn't disagree with this guy more.
NASCAR heads to Vegas on Sunday
By: Brian Graham
StatFox.com
The NASCAR circuit stays on the West Coast as the teams travel north from Phoenix to Sin City for Sunday's Kobalt 400. Las Vegas Motor Speedway is a 1.5-mile, D-shaped oval track completed in 1996. It was built with bankings measuring a hefty 20° on turns, and 9° banking on the frontstretch and backstretch, which are both exactly 3,330 feet (0.63 miles). The speedway is always rocking with a seating capacity exceeding 250,000 fans, and Matt Kenseth is the defending champion of this race.
Drivers to Watch
Tony Stewart (25/1) - Two poor starts to the 2014 season have certainly affected Stewart's odds in this race from last year when he went off at a much more chalky 8-to-1 price. However, this is a driver that has a pair of top-2 finishes at this track over the past three years, placing second in 2011 before winning the race in 2013. He actually has eight top-7 finishes in 15 starts in Las Vegas, and with odds that aren't likely to be this favorable again, now is the time to put your largest wager on Stewart, who is our pick to win Sunday's race.
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03-09-14 09:42 AM #443
guy is a moron....dont mind betting him as a longshot or something...
but ur largest wager? thats a joke
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03-09-14 09:48 AM #444
Im liking Brad K do it again today
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03-09-14 09:50 AM #445
Exactly - Why in the world would you recommend this to readers following you???? He also recommended a 1 unit play on Burton. Not sure I would want to do a full unit on that one too. Originally Posted by 5mike5
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03-09-14 09:53 AM #446
Wow I just don't see it. Wouldn't suprise me I guess. But those odds on him are god awful imo. Id have to parlay him winning with a h2h or something. Originally Posted by WolverineFan
GL though buddy he can do it for sure. Maybe I should look to a parlay with him!Last edited by 5mike5; 03-09-14 at 09:57 AM.
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03-09-14 09:55 AM #447
Guy is completely clueless. U need to stop reading that whole site. If they let him do their NASCAR write-ups they all have to be terrible Originally Posted by pigpenII
Last edited by 5mike5; 03-09-14 at 10:00 AM.
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03-09-14 10:03 AM #448
These guys are using some better logic:
PredictionsBob Pockrass: Carl Edwards.
Edwards has a win and two fifth-place finishes in his last three Cup races at Vegas. He knows how to get around the place. This will be the weekend that Roush Fenway shows that it has a handle on the new aero rules, and with the help of solid pit calls from crew chief Jimmy Fennig, Edwards will wind up in victory lane.
Jeff Owens: Jimmie Johnson. It’s tempting to pick Kenseth to repeat or Hamlin to regain his momentum, but no one has been better over the years at Las Vegas than Johnson. And giving him and crew chief Chad Knaus seven hours to figure out a track or a new rules package is asking for trouble. Plus, Kobalt Tools is one of Johnson’s sponsors, so Jimmie haters and conspiracy theorists already have their fingers poised above their keyboards, ready to strike.
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03-09-14 10:04 AM #449
Nice name by the way Bob.
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03-09-14 10:07 AM #450
Ur right I like his opinion much better. LOL Originally Posted by pigpenII
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03-09-14 10:30 AM #451
No media member puts more effort into covering NASCAR than Bob Pockrass. He received NASCAR's media award last year. He's one of the most knowledgeable, too.
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03-09-14 10:34 AM #452
Las Vegas Motor Speedway Loop Data Stat Leaders (2005-2013, 9 Races)*
*Fastest Early in a Run*Fastest Late in a RunAvg. Running Position1. Jimmie Johnson1. Carl Edwards1. Jimmie Johnson - 9.62. Kyle Busch2. Ricky Stenhouse Jr.2. Jeff Gordon - 10.03. Matt Kenseth3. Dale Earnhardt Jr.3. Kyle Busch - 10.34. Greg Biffle4. Matt Kenseth4. Greg Biffle - 10.75. Jeff Gordon5. Jeff Gordon5. Carl Edwards - 11.6Laps in Top 15*Quality Passes*Driver Rating1. Kyle Busch - 19041. Kyle Busch - 3581. Jimmie Johnson - 112.32. Jeff Gordon - 18702. Carl Edwards - 3442. Jeff Gordon - 103.83. Jimmie Johnson - 18253. Jeff Gordon - 3343. Tony Stewart - 103.44. Carl Edwards - 17684. Jimmie Johnson - 3114. Greg Biffle - 103.05. Greg Biffle - 17545. Tony Stewart - 2985. Kyle Busch - 102.8
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03-09-14 10:36 AM #453
I jus think he gonna b sneaky fast today..like mo them penske fords hav right now..wish he woulda quil bad so get better odds..lol
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03-09-14 10:37 AM #454
Are you him? Originally Posted by rob
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03-09-14 10:42 AM #455
I hate these west coast races damn it..im ready go..cant wait till next week for the high banks of Bristol!!!
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