[Slimpickens]

Knowing sportsbook.ag they will have the odds reposted in about a half hour or so. Very interested too see how the odds shift.

[5mike5]

And thanks.

Plenty of times early plays don't pan out. Lol. Mostly on favs but either way u less I use 1 as a cover ill addon bets. I usually don't keep maxing on openers more than 1-2 times u less I just love them. And those are usually favs not longshot early plays

Only matters if they win though. But either way I look at it I was betting both no matter what, so I saved money either way and will a lot more so there's no down side really. But will addon for sure still on. Both

[Slimpickens]

17/1 is where I started on him.

20/1 on Edwards.


rolled the dice on a few and paid off. Still gonna bet them more but I'm gonna get a great # on big play. Won't be using either for my cover either which I do sometimes if early play turns out awful or just bet at worse odds sometimes and let it roll with my gut

That a great price on Joey. No way he see's double digit odds. Probably will be 3rd choice now.

[Jmac926]

That a great price on Joey. No way he see's double digit odds. Probably will be 3rd choice now.

Agree jj,brad,joey,khane top 4 id say

[5mike5]

That a great price on Joey. No way he see's double digit odds. Probably will be 3rd choice now.

Those 2 and kahne were my openers this week. All I have so far. I think for this week it worked out pretty great odds wise.

I mean Carl Edwards has 2 wins here and 3 straight top 5 finishes here at Las Vegas. Opening @ 20-1 was WAY off imo so no way I wasn't taking that.

Joey lolano was just my gut sleeper this week and liked what he opened at too

[5mike5]

Agree jj,brad,joey,khane top 4 id say

I think Edwards will be top 4-5 easily as well.

if not I think any1 is crazy to leave him off here @ 12/1 or worse range

[Jmac926]

After qualifying this race seems more wide open than i had thought coming into this week. other than jj,brad and probably joey, i dont think any one else should be single digits.

[5mike5]

I honestly though Logano should have opened worse. It's no like he's been very strong here but that wasn't at Penske and he really tore these cookie cutters tracks in cup most of last season. Without looking his best finish is 6th or 7th so he hasn't finished even top 5 but only 5-6 races here in cup I think total

[Jmac926]

I honestly though Logano should have opened worse. It's no like he's been very strong here but that wasn't at Penske and he really tore these cookie cutters tracks in cup most of last season. Without looking his best finish is 6th or 7th so he hasn't finished even top 5 but only 5-6 races here in cup I think total

I think it has more to do with he only has 2 cup wins more than anything. I dont count that first win he had at NH lol he had a 34th place car that day

[WolverineFan]

Im coming from NC bout hour half away..I been comin to both races for many years now

[Slimpickens]

Gotta love Sportsbook.ag. They open there odds with minimal changes. Only big change I see is Bowyer at 8-1. Edwards still 20-1. Kenseth is still 8-1 but that has to change. Kahne is up to 12-1.

[5mike5]

I think it has more to do with he only has 2 cup wins more than anything. I dont count that first win he had at NH lol he had a 34th place car that day

Yeah but he got about 10x better when he made the move to Penske last year. I think he wins multiple races this season alone. Was like a totally different driver. Best season he's had by far and I look for even better of a season this year

[5mike5]

Im coming from NC bout hour half away..I been comin to both races for many years now

That's cool.

Wish we we could have met up b4 but I didn't know any other guys were going. Maybe this august

[uncle vinny]

Gotta love this race. Mgm has no clue...3 over 10 -130. They have owner prop and penski in field. And hendri k + 180. I come every year for the money making oppurfinityz....lets get that fall race

[5mike5]

After qualifying this race seems more wide open than i had thought coming into this week. other than jj,brad and probably joey, i dont think any one else should be single digits.

yep this race always looks wide open going into Sunday...

=big paydays usually

[5mike5]

when i go to Vegas, nascar is the 1 sport i still bet offshore because 99% of the time the odds are so much better...not to mention the over whelming -Ev for the options they offer offshore, that vegas never offered...they have got some better, but its still not up to par with offshore....at least not most offshore places but especially dimes

[SubjectMatterExp]

Vinny can you sneak a pic of the posted board for nascar at mgm and post? Id like to show a guy i play poker with

[uncle vinny]

when i go to Vegas, nascar is the 1 sport i still bet offshore because 99% of the time the odds are so much better...not to mention the over whelming -Ev for the options they offer offshore, that vegas never offered...they have got some better, but its still not up to par with offshore....at least not most offshore places but especially dimes

Matchups and props..agree win odds very bad. As they should be

[uncle vinny]

Vinny can you sneak a pic of the posted board for nascar at mgm and post? Id like to show a guy i play poker with

Who u want

[SubjectMatterExp]

Just the whole light board

[5mike5]

Nothing like the ol' sportsbook light board. Nothing better when u arrive and walk through the doors and see it. Lol. At least I always like it

[5mike5]

Knowing sportsbook.ag they will have the odds reposted in about a half hour or so. Very interested too see how the odds shift.

Hey slim.

Meant to ask ask up this a few weeks ago. I happened to watch a new TV series and thought about you, because I know u love the ponies. Have u caught the show called " horseplayers" yet?

All about like 5-6 fellas that handicap horses and play in horse racing handicapping tournaments across the country @ the big parks?

[uncle vinny]

Not smart enough to take pic..

[SubjectMatterExp]

What da fuk?

[uncle vinny]

What da fuk?

Im old dude..got a samsung 2 days ago..thats wtf

[Slimpickens]

Hey slim.

Meant to ask ask up this a few weeks ago. I happened to watch a new TV series and thought about you, because I know u love the ponies. Have u caught the show called " horseplayers" yet?

All about like 5-6 fellas that handicap horses and play in horse racing handicapping tournaments across the country @ the big parks?

Yep, I have seen the 1st 5 episodes thus far. I enjoy it. I never have been that big on playing big money tournaments like those guys do.

Speaking of horse racing if you guys are near a tv at 7pm EST should tune in to watch the Santa Anita Handicap which will be shown on fox sports 1. The 1st and 2nd place finishers of the Breeders Cup Classic Mucho Macho Man and Will Take Charge will meet as well as Game on Dude the favorite in the Breeders Cup classic. Should be a terrific race featuring the best horses Dirt horses in the US.

[SubjectMatterExp]

What model samsung? I got a little side prop with him but need the proof and nothing better than someone at a casino in vegas getting me the pic

[5mike5]

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[5mike5]

Yep, I have seen the 1st 5 episodes thus far. I enjoy it. I never have been that big on playing big money tournaments like those guys do.

Speaking of horse racing if you guys are near a tv at 7pm EST should tune in to watch the Santa Anita Handicap which will be shown on fox sports 1. The 1st and 2nd place finishers of the Breeders Cup Classic Mucho Macho Man and Will Take Charge will meet as well as Game on Dude the favorite in the Breeders Cup classic. Should be a terrific race featuring the best horses Dirt horses in the US.

Remind me and I'll bet a longshot or 2 for fun with $5 bucks or something on them. I like watching a big race a few times a year.

i just put a reminder on my TV for it too

[Slimpickens]

Remind me and I'll bet a longshot or 2 for fun with $5 bucks or something on them. I like watching a big race a few times a year.

i just put a reminder on my TV for it too

Here is a link to the pp's of the race if anyone wants to check them out. One of the 3 I mentioned earlier are extremly likely to win. Not a great race to take a longshot IMO. But you never know.

http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_vi...param3=1504458

[homervdoh]

Idk if this is the right forum for this but what percentage of your bets do you guys make prior to practice/qualifying and what % on race day? I never bet anything prior to the day of the race and im sure its costing me a little but betting before they unload always feels like trying to look into the future without a crystal ball

[reigle9]

17/1 is where I started on him.

20/1 on Edwards.

kahne +975.

Why don't you post them after you have your bets in? I was all excited to follow the nascar threads this year but it seems kind of pointless.

[5mike5]

Why don't you post them after you have your bets in? I was all excited to follow the nascar threads this year but it seems kind of pointless.

becuase last year it killed the odds if I even mentioned I was gonna play somebody. Ill post then early and see what happens next week from Bristol, but it was starting to cost me $. The book knew people were following them and they over adjusted. That's why most talk off forum about their openin plays. I always post my roster on raceday though.

U can ask any1 in the thread. It killed odds if I posted my bet early for rest of the week til sessions. The odds would never rebound to bet them again b4 practices. It was significant too. They aren't dumb after the way we had crushed the books for years. They drop bad enough when I make a bet anytime.

But everybody knew my early plays via text messages. Or u can just PM me is be happy to tell u. Not like I'm keeping them secret.

But I never know really til I see openers who I will take early from all my notes I just have a short list to look at from prior career and recent track success and go from there. Then I wait til after session and raceday odds post

[5mike5]

Idk if this is the right forum for this but what percentage of your bets do you guys make prior to practice/qualifying and what % on race day? I never bet anything prior to the day of the race and im sure its costing me a little but betting before they unload always feels like trying to look into the future without a crystal ball

I personally have no %. It all depends on the particular racetrack and the opening odds. Sometimes I'll bet 3 or 4 most of my lineup early if the odds are really good imo and have a lot of early value. Sometimes I won't bet but maybe 1 driver early. It is always a roll of he dice. But I usually add more max bets in them anyways but getting best # early always saves $ and makes u alor more of they win. U can always add if there are better odds later.

I don't consider it a crystal ball at all of odds are good and u know ur fonna bet them anyways. And like I said u can always add more $ of odds get better to make up the diff. Really its trial and error and not the same strategy for anybody.

Justikw his week I took 3 early did amazing on 2/3 but kahnes odds will be later this weekend than I bet early. So ill either add on or maybe use him as a cover if it works out. Just all depends on raceday and how many drivers I add and odds and total investment ect ect

[5mike5]

Here is a link to the pp's of the race if anyone wants to check them out. One of the 3 I mentioned earlier are extremly likely to win. Not a great race to take a longshot IMO. But you never know.

http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_vi...param3=1504458

I'm sure ur right about the longshot but gives me a reason. To watch the race. Ill root for ur plays too. Just not way I would even out much on a horse race. I'm clueless about them