[JBEX]

delaware

R7 #4 avocado (12-1) should be a lot lower

[mrginandtonic]

I don't play (not able to financially).. even if I did it would only be small.. I just enjoy capping and the forum gives me a place to share my opinion.. if I did it would be mostly simple win and place.. think the pick 5 is an excellent bet but I enjoy picking my spots more and don't want to get to involved with races I don't like just because they're in the sequence.. should pass on more races than I do(posting) ...without getting too long winded as I've discussed in here before I think playing longshot underneath in supers and tris a good strategy.. that's where they're going to wind up most of the time if they run well.. cover with the top 2-5 horses in 1st an 2nd depending how you feel about the race.. I feel they pay more than they should over the long haul.. use steve crist's formula for calculating the fair payoffs based on odds

JBEX, although it is none of my business, I really don't understand why you don't play for real. I know that you mentioned you are not able to financially, but you can build up your bank roll with small bets. I am not a high roller, but I still enjoy placing a bet here and there where I see fit. You have so many angles that you like and that you feel you have an advantage over other players. So, why not use it to make some money?? I know you are not worse than me. If I can make a few dollars playing the ponies, I definitely think you can too. Why spend all these time figuring out what angles work and what doesn't?? The Horse Tourney site is excellent for building your bankroll. $12 buy in to win potentially $1000. EZ showed me this and I think it is excellent. With your knowledge in the game, I have no doubt you can have an immediate impact and win some prices. I am not asking to prove yourself, but as a fellow handicapper, I think it is such a waste and not to take advantage of your expertise. At the end of the day, the greatest reward is horse handicapping is still the monetary gain. Just think about it, HT may be worthwhile and even $2 WP bet can build up your roll, then you can move forward from there. That is my two cents. GL.

[JBEX]

JBEX, although it is none of my business, I really don't understand why you don't play for real. I know that you mentioned you are not able to financially, but you can build up your bank roll with small bets. I am not a high roller, but I still enjoy placing a bet here and there where I see fit. You have so many angles that you like and that you feel you have an advantage over other players. So, why not use it to make some money?? I know you are not worse than me. If I can make a few dollars playing the ponies, I definitely think you can too. Why spend all these time figuring out what angles work and what doesn't?? The Horse Tourney site is excellent for building your bankroll. $12 buy in to win potentially $1000. EZ showed me this and I think it is excellent. With your knowledge in the game, I have no doubt you can have an immediate impact and win some prices. I am not asking to prove yourself, but as a fellow handicapper, I think it is such a waste and not to take advantage of your expertise. At the end of the day, the greatest reward is horse handicapping is still the monetary gain. Just think about it, HT may be worthwhile and even $2 WP bet can build up your roll, then you can move forward from there. That is my two cents. GL.

first of all thanks for the compliment mrgnt..really don't know where I fall in the pecking order of how good but have put a lot of time into it going back over 40 years..I like the tournament concept mainly because of the low vig and from what I gather low entry fees..my only knock is having to play designated races whether it be a whole card or just parts of others..like to pick my spots although on some days I do play too many..I believe this reality applies though..if you're a really good tourney player maybe you have a 10% edge over time..so if I play at the $10 level and play the whole card which includes races I don't like on average i'll make a dollar a day for my efforts..and that's if I am good, maybe i'm not..and I could only play two a week tops..just doesn't make sense to me..as far as making small bets a similar reality applies..you can only do so much with small volume..not discouraging others just how I feel..I was a compulsive gambler for many decades ..horses,sports..never lliked casinos..I've been in control for close to 15 years now and not even tempted to get out of hand..with either of the above my main joy was the process rather than the money..no information (pp's ,newsletters) no betting..I never bet just for entertainment ..I enjoy just freestyling on here and giving my opinion ..maybe no one follows or lots follow or somewhere in between..whatever the case it's kept me more interested in the game than I would be without it..as I said the joy is in the process for me..don't miss the betting..bol with your bank and tourneys


play and pick interchangeable..always mean pick

[JBEX]

mountaineer


R9 #1 beautiful gI gi (10-1)

[Easy-Rider 66]

first of all thanks for the compliment mrgnt..really don't know where I fall in the pecking order of how good but have put a lot of time into it going back over 40 years..I like the tournament concept mainly because of the low vig and from what I gather low entry fees..my only knock is having to play designated races whether it be a whole card or just parts of others..like to pick my spots although on some days I do play too many..I believe this reality applies though..if you're a really good tourney player maybe you have a 10% edge over time..so if I play at the $10 level and play the whole card which includes races I don't like on average i'll make a dollar a day for my efforts..and that's if I am good, maybe i'm not..and I could only play two a week tops..just doesn't make sense to me..as far as making small bets a similar reality applies..you can only do so much with small volume..not discouraging others just how I feel..I was a compulsive gambler for many decades ..horses,sports..never lliked casinos..I've been in control for close to 15 years now and not even tempted to get out of hand..with either of the above my main joy was the process rather than the money..no information (pp's ,newsletters) no betting..I never bet just for entertainment ..I enjoy just freestyling on here and giving my opinion ..maybe no one follows or lots follow or somewhere in between..whatever the case it's kept me more interested in the game than I would be without it..as I said the joy is in the process for me..don't miss the betting..bol with your bank and tourneys


play and pick interchangeable..always mean pick

Sounds like JBEX you are all in or all out as for as gambling goes. Your call for what works best for you. I understand you have lost your fair share when playing this great game. Now you just post. No worries. I have also a losing playing, and that is why I value the SBR point system. Keeps some skin in the game without getting hurt coin wise. I also play Horse Tourneys which is legal in my state, and can play for as little as $3 for an eight race contest. Again some skin in the game. But sounds like you have waved the white flag in trying to beat the basically for most unbeatable game. GL moving forward.

[JBEX]

Sounds like JBEX you are all in or all out as for as gambling goes. Your call for what works best for you. I understand you have lost your fair share when playing this great game. Now you just post. No worries. I have also a losing playing, and that is why I value the SBR point system. Keeps some skin in the game without getting hurt coin wise. I also play Horse Tourneys which is legal in my state, and can play for as little as $3 for an eight race contest. Again some skin in the game. But sounds like you have waved the white flag in trying to beat the basically for most unbeatable game. GL moving forward.

just enjoy picking.. playing for small stakes does not excite me.. the mathematics bear that out imo

[Easy-Rider 66]

just enjoy picking.. playing for small stakes does not excite me.. the mathematics bear that out imo

Yeah each to his own. For me I enjoy the small stakes and then take a shot in a bigger contest if I can score in a small game. Build upon something one rung of the ladder at a time. Sounds like you were a heavy hitter back in your day. I was too at times with sports. But learned a hard lesson. You have this thread of over 250,000 views and that is your skin. No worries. Some posters have stated they appreciate the work you do and that is good. But for me I can not take it too seriously if you do not have some stake other than just making picks. But that is just my little opinion. Again each to his own. BOL.

[JBEX]

Yeah each to his own. For me I enjoy the small stakes and then take a shot in a bigger contest if I can score in a small game. Build upon something one rung of the ladder at a time. Sounds like you were a heavy hitter back in your day. I was too at times with sports. But learned a hard lesson. You have this thread of over 250,000 views and that is your skin. No worries. Some posters have stated they appreciate the work you do and that is good. But for me I can not take it too seriously if you do not have some stake other than just making picks. But that is just my little opinion. Again each to his own. BOL.

you're entitled to your opinion as is everybody else in here..just gonna keep doing what I've been doing..bol

[Easy-Rider 66]

you're entitled to your opinion as is everybody else in here..just gonna keep doing what I've been doing..bol

[JBEX]

at prarie meadows a fox ran about 5 feet onto the track from the outer rail on the clubhouse turn..as the field approached him he retreated rapidly lol

[mrginandtonic]

first of all thanks for the compliment mrgnt..really don't know where I fall in the pecking order of how good but have put a lot of time into it going back over 40 years..I like the tournament concept mainly because of the low vig and from what I gather low entry fees..my only knock is having to play designated races whether it be a whole card or just parts of others..like to pick my spots although on some days I do play too many..I believe this reality applies though..if you're a really good tourney player maybe you have a 10% edge over time..so if I play at the $10 level and play the whole card which includes races I don't like on average i'll make a dollar a day for my efforts..and that's if I am good, maybe i'm not..and I could only play two a week tops..just doesn't make sense to me..as far as making small bets a similar reality applies..you can only do so much with small volume..not discouraging others just how I feel..I was a compulsive gambler for many decades ..horses,sports..never lliked casinos..I've been in control for close to 15 years now and not even tempted to get out of hand..with either of the above my main joy was the process rather than the money..no information (pp's ,newsletters) no betting..I never bet just for entertainment ..I enjoy just freestyling on here and giving my opinion ..maybe no one follows or lots follow or somewhere in between..whatever the case it's kept me more interested in the game than I would be without it..as I said the joy is in the process for me..don't miss the betting..bol with your bank and tourneys


play and pick interchangeable..always mean pick

Fair enough. But still, if I were to put in all these effort in handicapping and I feel I have advantage; I would play to get some of my losses back. Since the tuition fees have been paid over the year, now it's time for the rewards. GL

[JBEX]

Fair enough. But still, if I were to put in all these effort in handicapping and I feel I have advantage; I would play to get some of my losses back. Since the tuition fees have been paid over the year, now it's time for the rewards. GL

thanks

[JBEX]

saratoga


R4 #4 indian pride (2-1)

chad brown debuter (wish it were someone else just to get a better price)..speed,win early pedigree and out of an extremely productive dam..besides today have a hunch this is going to be a good one down the road


R6 #3 moonachie (4-1)

fts ...expensive for pedigree


R7 #5 jazzique (5-1)

fts..homebred with classy european bloodlines top and bottom ..chad brown..field is deep in talent

[JBEX]

month >=8 and team =Yankees and LGS and SGS =3 and streak >=2 and line <=-200 and season >=2009

nyy
august +
last game
3 game series
streak >=2 (wins)
favorite >=200
2009



10-0 o/u (3.75)
9-1 (-1.5) (-138) (4.80) it's 6.30 avg straight up margin

nyy 9.6 /opp 3.3

very few unearned runs for nyy..besides the one 3 run game (nyy) the 9 others averaged 10.3/rpg with the lowest being 7


nyy team total over 5 (-120)
nyy -1.5 (-130)

[Louisvillekid1]

Didn’t know you capped sports

Good luck today

[JBEX]

Didn’t know you capped sports

Good luck today

thanks.. just using the sdql.. personnel know very little

[JBEX]

added 6 7

[Louisvillekid1]

month >=8 and team =Yankees and LGS and SGS =3 and streak >=2 and line <=-200 and season >=2009

nyy
august +
last game
3 game series
streak >=2 (wins)
favorite >=200
2009



10-0 o/u (3.75)
9-1 (-1.5) (-138) (4.80) it's 6.30 avg straight up margin

nyy 9.6 /opp 3.3

very few unearned runs for nyy..besides the one 3 run game (nyy) the 9 others averaged 10.3/rpg with the lowest being 7


nyy team total over 5 (-120)
nyy -1.5 (-130)

Came through with the TT In 5

Looking to sweep

[Louisvillekid1]

saratoga


R4 #4 indian pride (2-1)

chad brown debuter (wish it were someone else just to get a better price)..speed,win early pedigree and out of an extremely productive dam..besides today have a hunch this is going to be a good one down the road


R6 #3 moonachie (4-1)

fts ...expensive for pedigree


R7 #5 jazzique (5-1)

fts..homebred with classy european bloodlines top and bottom ..chad brown..field is deep in talent

You picked 3 huge ones

Excellent

[Louisvillekid1]

That 7th race was nuts

[JBEX]

thanks..yeah everything was on target today inclung the baseball..they were all impressive maiden wins with the last one of a different running style..didn't realize moonachie was parcells (makes sense)and know he races under august dawn farm..he's named a couple of his horses after players(carthon,bavaro)and they seem to wind up being halfway decent runners..have to keep an eye out for that in the future

[JBEX]

month >=8 and DAY and starter =Zack Greinke and season >=2013 and line <=-120 and total >=7

greinke
aug +
day games
favorite >=120
total >=7
2013

5-0
2-1
1-0
7-2
10-8
2-1
1-0
4-3
4-3
5-2
6-2 (this year)
4-1


tb team total under 3.5

[JBEX]

baseball play above



saratoga

R1 #5 irish danzing (4-1)

nyb maiden specials (2yo)

todd's got a $340k yearling purchase firster #4 more glitter (2-1) so be no value with him especially vs ny breds.. mine expensive for the pedigree, jose ortiz rides and solid works


R2 #4 ides of arch (15-1)

R3 #6 tayler's the boss (6-1)

blinkers on seems to have helped in her last 3 starts.. exits much tougher ny bred claimer to try 20k n2L.. bad trainer and jockey will only help the price.. jockeys avg win price in sprint races is a shade over $40 and that's from a good sample of 10 wins


R4 #6 lundqvist (8-1)



R5 #2 bronxville (5-1)


R6 #9 pink freud (5-1)


R7 #8 saratoga beauty (9-2)



R10 #6 freudycatfever (12-1)

[JBEX]

put up the total

[JBEX]

added 6 7

[JBEX]

finished

[Louisvillekid1]

Your red hot

I think they want that 4 on turf

[JBEX]

should just stick to newbies lol

[Louisvillekid1]

Originally I was on your pick here in the 3rd, this one is tough to figure ... ended up singling him tho. Hoping refinds that early form 2nd off break... then I’m deep in the 4th looking for a price.

[Louisvillekid1]

Actually hoping Luis wins 3 in a row

[JBEX]

my big knock on the favorite is he wasn't a nothing horse last year to make this kind of drop.. I know pletcher good on the drop but think the 6 is a good price largely because of the jt combo

[JBEX]

didn't even realize miranda had another horse.. wins at 36-1..unbelievable

[Louisvillekid1]

Yep terrible not having that one

Tried to steal a single instead of taking advantage of what the field really was

2 prob wins if doesn’t leap outta the gate

[JBEX]

I missed that.. I'm pretty conservative with saying "I would have" but this one really a good longie.. they probably shared a van ride up here

[Louisvillekid1]

I hear ya , I’m pretty mad at myself

Live n learn I suppose

Pretty much used the 6 to setup to setup the 3