[JBEX]

finished

[Louisvillekid1]

Looks like they scratched the 2 in finale

[JBEX]

Looks like they scratched the 2 in finale

thanks.. I replaced with another

[JBEX]

saratoga


dirt good or fast and R1 must be on the turf


R1 #8 seaside dancer (3-1) scratched
R2 #1 zandora (7-2)
R3 #1 risky mischief (5-2)

debuter was a $350k yearling.. by elite sire out of a stakes winning mare ($493k) who ran 2nd in a 14 horse field in her debut.. wound up breaking her maiden in start #3 (still 2yo) with a huge equibase figure.. dam sire limehouse is a speed influence another positive.. guessing around 3-2 but looks tough

R6 #4 slam dunk (6-1)


have a hunch they'll be at least a couple of good runners down the road exiting this msw race.. mine $450k yearling by same sire as above (into mischief) and out of a winning grand slam mare (speed, win early).. she has produced 4 winners from as many starters including 1 stakes winner.. jose ortiz 2/3 last 60 days riding for trainer rudolphe brisset.. believe he was a mott assistant whose been on his own less than 2 years (not positive about this).. has worked well but workouts are down on my list as an important handicapping factor.. too obvious and plenty of horses with slow to moderate works win or run well first out



R8 #3 short pour (6-1)

like what she was able to do as a 2yo running on the turf.. traffic trouble in her 3yo debut off a 6 month layoff last out.. think they'll be an improved effort today with that race under her



R10 #2 andi's kitten (6-1)

R10 #7 downstream




del mar


R4 #11 navy queen (12-1) pp8

2yo fts..homebred by a way above avg debut sire and out of a stakes winning mare who has 9 winners from as many starters.. 3 of 4 that ran as a 2 yo's won.. trainer only 1/16 as a debut trainer but that horse paid around $35..7 lb winless bug rides but that will only enhance the price and have to think this might not require the most tactical ride... get out and go


R6 #1 roses for laura (6-1)

added del mar 4

[JBEX]

added R5 to above post

[JBEX]

last one I posted at dmr is R6 not 5...corrected above

[Louisvillekid1]

Maybe one day

you can teach me how to win vs cali racing

I can’t stand it

ty for sharing

even Del Mar meet

and hey , I dislike my home town racing in KY

So don’t take offense

New York circuit is where it’s at imo

[JBEX]

Maybe one day

you can teach me how to win vs cali racing

I can’t stand it

ty for sharing

even Del Mar meet

and hey , I dislike my home town racing in KY

So don’t take offense

New York circuit is where it’s at imo

I just cap and don't play as you know so i don't claim to be a winner at this game east or west coast ..as far as california I go about it the same way as I do eastern tracks..like you don't like it as much ... speed nature of santa anita and smaller fields in general probably what it is I guess ..definetly a different feel to it as far as i'm concerned

[JBEX]

lost lots of money when I did play and it's been about 15 years since I was a daily money player..I love capping regardless of the money and this forum makes it a lot more interesting for me to do it

[Easy-Rider 66]

lost lots of money when I did play and it's been about 15 years since I was a daily money player..I love capping regardless of the money and this forum makes it a lot more interesting for me to do it

Honest assessment there JBEX. Tough game. Join the club. I was holding my own on contest play (breaking about even/losing small amounts)until last year to year and a half. Now on a really bad run. Can not hit broad side of a barn capping or tailing. Anyway too bad tournament play was not really around in your day of gambling as it does help mitigate the negative aspects of the game. The sharks are swimming JBEX, and they are scoring those coins. Guess players like you and I will have to settle for small scores etc. GL.

[JBEX]

Honest assessment there JBEX. Tough game. Join the club. I was holding my own on contest play (breaking about even/losing small amounts)until last year to year and a half. Now on a really bad run. Can not hit broad side of a barn capping or tailing. Anyway too bad tournament play was not really around in your day of gambling as it does help mitigate the negative aspects of the game. The sharks are swimming JBEX, and they are scoring those coins. Guess players like you and I will have to settle for small scores etc. GL.

as I've said before i just enjoy the process and basically cannot change that.. if you were to just stick to WP bets at the big tracks I believe it's 16-17% take out.. it'll never be 10 for most players with a rebate but I would guess a reasonable volume (but still high) might get you to 13-14%..i think at that point you might just accept takes a little higher than contest play and stick to simple WP bets.. jmo and others may feel differently.. got no skin in the game but of course like to pick well over time

[Easy-Rider 66]

as I've said before i just enjoy the process and basically cannot change that.. if you were to just stick to WP bets at the big tracks I believe it's 16-17% take out.. it'll never be 10 for most players with a rebate but I would guess a reasonable volume (but still high) might get you to 13-14%..i think at that point you might just accept takes a little higher than contest play and stick to simple WP bets.. jmo and others may feel differently.. got no skin in the game but of course like to pick well over time

Get your drift, but the sharks have gravitated to contest play IMO. Chance to win upwards of 30K. Lockdown games so players can not chase at the end. Feeders to win your way into the big games for much less. And I know you rarely post ex bets, but along with w/p those are my personal fav. Anyhow GL JBEX posting here. I understand the Game has beaten both of us down to a certain degree, but we like it nonetheless.

[Louisvillekid1]

Nothing wrong with that jbex

i love handicapping

cliche but journey > destination

nothing more fulfilling than this sport

it’s really takes a special type of handicapper

But imo if you can’t read a form

ill never trust that person betting other sports

this is more of our past time than baseball

this truly separates handicappers

I digress my rant lol ,

[Louisvillekid1]

Get your drift, but the sharks have gravitated to contest play IMO. Chance to win upwards of 30K. Lockdown games so players can not chase at the end. Feeders to win your way into the big games for much less. And I know you rarely post ex bets, but along with w/p those are my personal fav. Anyhow GL JBEX posting here. I understand the Game has beaten both of us down to a certain degree, but we like it nonetheless.

I’m sure your correct on the contest

is it like fantasy

like fan duel eske ?

Ive been in some handicapping tournaments at borgata or casinos

but not how you play

reason I ask

because fan duel or draft kings would be missing out on such

[Easy-Rider 66]

I’m sure your correct on the contest

is it like fantasy

like fan duel eske ?

Ive been in some handicapping tournaments at borgata or casinos

but not how you play

reason I ask

because fan duel or draft kings would be missing out on such

They are many different type of contests. Most popular on Horse tourneys is pick and Pray, You pick one primary and one alternate. You get credit for w/p monies, Once the gates open 1st race of the contest no changing the picks. Caps of $42 for win and $22 for Place. Check out the site LKID> any other questions hit me back.

[JBEX]

saratoga

R1 #2 get smokin (8-1)

bad bunch.. castellano riding an $11k yearling purchase for an avg trainer who's 1/53 with debut horses?? bottom of ped a little interesting.. 1 winner from 1 starter and was a halfway decent horse going by dpi.. that one was a turf winner


R3 #6 bahamian prince (4-1)

according to the maiden stats look like the sire is new.. but he's (the sire) by gone west who retired a long time ago.. very strange?? even at $40k this one cost a decent amount for the specs.. dam sire posse is a speed influence.. thought enough to ship up here off monmouth works and they bring along paco lopez


R4 #2 eighty seven north

finally right level, surface and jockey come together.. two favorites scratched so ml means sht




R5

#3 lune lake (20-1)

don't get ml?? her turf sprints not bad at all except for her last race.. but that was from the 12 post


#5 tradeable (15-1)



R9 #8 rocketry (9-5)

R10 #4 wacky pal (5-1)

like his effort vs open company (today ny breds) at gulfstream in his debut.. 7th (12 horse field) by a little less than 5 lengths but put up a good figure.. also had to break from the rail in a 12 horse field.. first race off the layoff (3yo debut) comment "saw off 3/16 th" so I'll excuse that.. last race battled on the front end held very well to finish 3rd with a decent figure.. castellano for saez, nice middle post and je very good 3rd off the layoff



del mar


R5 #4 naughty tiger (8-1)
R6 # 6 unapologetic (5-2)
R7 #3 flying flirt (20-1)

[JBEX]

made a switch a couple of minutes after I posted.. R5 I have #5 tradeable replacing #7 galadriel's light.. have #3 which I originally posted also (2 horses that race)

[Louisvillekid1]

Glad to see you on Bahamian prince

4/1 would be a steal

[JBEX]

Glad to see you on Bahamian prince

4/1 would be a steal

yeah.. he'll probably get bet.. probably a bad sign in the high single digits

[Louisvillekid1]

Idk

would have to be sharp money

public doesn’t respect NJ shippers

especially firsters

shit, Jason Servis made a living off that very thing

[JBEX]

Idk

would have to be sharp money

public doesn’t respect NJ shippers

especially firsters

shit, Jason Servis made a living off that very thing

tough read.. looking at it again I think the ml maker gave him a lot of respect making him 4-1 considering pletcher and the two who ran decent already.. not a Lukas fan but he's never been this low

[Louisvillekid1]

Good points

[JBEX]

finished saratoga.. be out for a while.. gl all

[JBEX]

added last 3 @ del mar

[JBEX]

saratoga


R1 #6 go get that (6-1)
R1 #7 smidge (12-1)



R2 #3 cool as you like (9-5)
R3 #3 light in the sky (3-1)
R4 #7 appealing briefs (10-1)

have to try and beat servis #1 who claimed his horse three back and he ran a lifetime best figure on the turf at 8 years old in his next start (at least on the brisnet's) ..give me a break !!


R5 #1 tactical pursuit (6-1)
R6 #4 here comes your man (3-1)


R7 #3 english bee (9-2)
R8 #7 backyard heaven (6-1)
R9 #1 olendon (6-1)

back euro-class,jv to irad, 1st lasix and blinkers on.. more acclamated to surroundings.. fact he lost to favorite last out will only help price


R10 #5 taralucci (8-1)
R10 #8 fika (8-1)



del mar


R3 #1 cash for cass (4-1)
R4 #6 challah (10-1)
R5 #6 clear to close (2-1)


enough c's for ya

[JBEX]

finished

[Louisvillekid1]

Get em today

think the 7 is must use in 5th

[JBEX]

saratoga


R1 #6 go get that (6-1)
R1 #7 smidge (12-1)



R2 #3 cool as you like (9-5)
R3 #3 light in the sky (3-1)
R4 #7 appealing briefs (10-1)

have to try and beat servis #1 who claimed his horse three back and he ran a lifetime best figure on the turf at 8 years old in his next start (at least on the brisnet's) ..give me a break !!


R5 #1 tactical pursuit (6-1)
R6 #4 here comes your man (3-1)


R7 #3 english bee (9-2)
R8 #7 backyard heaven (6-1)
R9 #1 olendon (6-1)

back euro-class,jv to irad, 1st lasix and blinkers on.. more acclamated to surroundings.. fact he lost to favorite last out will only help price


R10 #5 taralucci (8-1)
R10 #8 fika (8-1)

breaks the track record with this horse

[JBEX]

Get em today

think the 7 is must use in 5th

thanks..know you like the finger lakes shippers spotted reasonably and englehart.. looks good except that hernandez is a terrible route rider .. on the other hand this might not require a real skillful ride..bol

[JBEX]

added del mar 3-5

[JBEX]

saratoga


R1 #5 brewmeister (4-1)

loaded with big pedigree 1sters but mine is exp for the specs so always stick with that


R2 #5 verve's humor (15-1)


R3 #9 glory road (4-1)

exact same reason as R1


R4 #3 patriot drive (8-1)



R6 #3 up and onward (15-1)


$600k firster by tapit out a grade 1 winning mare (1st foal) who broke her maiden first out.. hennig very profitable with maidens and first time starters



R8 #6 please flatter me (15-1) test stakes grade 1


mountaineer


R8 #4 plus que parfait (7-2) west virginia derby grade 3

[JBEX]

added a couple

[JBEX]

R11 #1 elenzee (8-1)



del mar


R10 #8 dulverton darling (5-1)

[JBEX]

del mar 10 above

[JBEX]

saratoga


R1 #4 daphne moon (2-1)

$525k 2yo auction purchase and definitely a bunch for the pedigree.. $25k stallion and lone starter from the dam won a little over $100k with 2 wins from 7 starts including winning her debut at the keeneland fall meet.. also worth noting #5 lucky dime (4-1) is a half to monster mitole and the dam has produced two other winners besides (3/3)..trained by mott whose having a great meet


R4 #7 sparkling sky (4-1)

$650k yearling purchase makes her debut going 2 turns on the turf.. dam won debut by 9 at arlington park.. pletcher with jose ortiz.. chad has two expensive fts (4,5) and kimmel also has one (3)..shug has a firster also with a nice pedigree (2) but not as good as the one's I just mentioned


R6 #8 tribecca (6-1)
R8 #9 ascender (20-1)


R9 saratoga derby

looking for something different than the locals who ran well

#6 kadar (30-1)

missed by a neck and was coming in his first try stateside last race .. today only his 4th career start and cost $836k so hoping he might be something special.. jose ortiz aboard this time.. realize I said looking for something other than locals who ran well but the difference with this one is he did it in an allowance race and not a stakes like the other's


#7 cape of good hope (15-1)

aiden o'brien, big pedigree who ran fairly well vs solid European company.. only 16 day gap between his euro race two back and his debut in this country last out (kinda quick).. has had about a month to rest off that and should be a lot fresher and maybe more relaxed.. his worst race over there was the race 2 back and that was the only off turf (soft) he'd run on