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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    You are correct, I have Buffalo series starting on 16th, however, it is tonight. I use VegasInsider to get ALL teams schedules. This game is not even on the list. Don't know if this is some makeup game or something.
    I think it's the game that got snowed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexknyc View Post
    I think it's the game that got snowed out.
    I thought that was vs. The Ranges. There has not been a line for this game all day. I have no idea what's going on with this play. If they play the game, and scoresandodds.com has an OFFICIAL line at some point, then this will be an (A) bet. Otherwise, tomorrow's game will be the (A) bet as I had originally planned. Vey bizarre, game all of a sudden appears, and no open line as of now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    I thought that was vs. The Ranges. There has not been a line for this game all day. I have no idea what's going on with this play. If they play the game, and scoresandodds.com has an OFFICIAL line at some point, then this will be an (A) bet. Otherwise, tomorrow's game will be the (A) bet as I had originally planned. Vey bizarre, game all of a sudden appears, and no open line as of now.
    Youre right. It was a Rangers-Sabres game snowed out. Don't know why I thought it was Ottawa.

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    What is also odd is www.vegasinsider.com don't have the lines for this game or even listed. First I ever seen that. But scoresandodds does have it, but no odds despite its less then an hour from faceoff. (again weird)

    But good old 5 dimes, has the game at -142 Ottawa. So I'm going for it ML.

    (Perhaps one team just found there self in the other teams area, and they stuck there head out of the bus and said "You guys want to play".)

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    It is odd. They never posted a line, and I think the game wasn't even listed on the upcoming games on Buffalo's team page. But it is a game, and the books did post lines. Weird.

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    Even if Buffalo loses, they'll probably be underdogs every game so the juice won't be too bad as taking PLs. So ill chase to 4 games. I don't see Buffalo winning 7 SU games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slanina View Post
    I've lost so many ML games on shootouts this year (outside system). I knew where this was going when they tied it 3-3. Oh well.
    This is from yesterday's Kings game. Here we are again today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slanina View Post
    This is from yesterday's Kings game. Here we are again today.
    We all know how that shootout is gonna end!

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    Not sure how the Ottawa game will count, but if they would had won tonight, the chase would be over for me. But since they was the favorite and lost in OT, I'm going to chase it to (C) or (D), if necessary.

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    Anaheim/Toronto game tomorrow is almost even money. Man I'm not sure if I'm ready for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3568 View Post
    It is odd. They never posted a line, and I think the game wasn't even listed on the upcoming games on Buffalo's team page. But it is a game, and the books did post lines. Weird.
    Yes, but we have no official lines on scoresandodds.com, so Buffalo (fade) officially starts (A) bet tomorrow, 12/16/14.

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    This game between the Sens/Sabres at the First Niagara Center was NOT a regularly scheduled game. They were originally scheduled to play Feb. 20 but has to be moved up to Dec. 15 because the Rangers/Sabres will now play on Feb. 20 instead. The original Rangers/Sabres game was cancelled on Nov. 21 due to that massive snowstorm.

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2014-15 System to date: 73-3 (fin. series)
    Systemprofit/loss: +13.45 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 3 (-11.86 units)

    v1 Fades
    (A) 40-15
    (B) 7-7

    (C) 4-2
    Losses: TB (-17.77 u), MON (-27.08 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 12-12
    (B) 10-1

    (C) 0-1
    Losses: DAL (-14.70 u)



    Games for (12/16/14):
    #75 Anaheim (M/L) @ Toronto v1 (C) (7:35 pm EST)
    #77 Resumes v2 (B) on 12/17/14
    #78 Anaheim @ Toronto (+1½) v1 (B) (7:35 pm EST)
    #80 Buffalo @ Winnipeg (M/L) v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)
    #81 Columbus @ Detroit (M/L) v1 (A) (7:35 pm EST)
    #81 Columbus @ Detroit (M/L) v2 (A) (7:35 pm EST)
    #83 N.Y. Rangers @ Calgary (+1½) v1 (A) (9:05 pm EST)



    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L if the team we are betting on is the M/L favorite or in games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line (+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules and backtest can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Yes, but we have no official lines on scoresandodds.com, so Buffalo (fade) officially starts (A) bet tomorrow, 12/16/14.
    If it helps, the Bet365 line was Ottawa ML -340, which I played. I think the lack of odds at scoresandodds.com yesterday is somewhat irrelevant at this point and only becomes important if the series eventually fails (in which case an A Bet ML at -140 will be good enough for the stats). I'm playing the official A Bet as a B Bet and I will stop at the official B Bet if necessary. Hopefully, this will iron out in the next 2 games anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev the Brit View Post
    If it helps, the Bet365 line was Ottawa ML -340, which I played. I think the lack of odds at scoresandodds.com yesterday is somewhat irrelevant at this point and only becomes important if the series eventually fails (in which case an A Bet ML at -140 will be good enough for the stats). I'm playing the official A Bet as a B Bet and I will stop at the official B Bet if necessary. Hopefully, this will iron out in the next 2 games anyway....
    I didn't see the line on that game, but I can't believe they were a -340 favorite. You really got a bad line on that game. Did you play the alternate (+1 1/2) line? If you did, then you won the bet, otherwise you just way overpaid for that loss. Official system (A) bet starts with today's game vs. Winnipeg as I stated in post #4552, well before the game started. I don't ever remember this happening before. As you said, hopefully today's game makes it all moot anyway.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 12-16-14 at 08:07 AM.

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    cgy is -1.5 not +1.5 right on all the sites there fav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bardown View Post
    cgy is -1.5 not +1.5 right on all the sites there fav.
    same as Toronto there fav at -1.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by bardown View Post
    cgy is -1.5 not +1.5 right on all the sites there fav.
    Not on the one that counts. Check again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bardown View Post
    same as Toronto there fav at -1.5
    Not on the one that counts. Check again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    I didn't see the line on that game, but I can't believe they were a -340 favorite. You really got a bad line on that game. Did you play the alternate (+1 1/2) line? If you did, then you won the bet, otherwise you just way overpaid for that loss. Official system (A) bet starts with today's game vs. Winnipeg as I stated in post #4552, well before the game started. I don't ever remember this happening before. As you said, hopefully today's game makes it all moot anyway.
    The "-340" was a typo. I actually got -140 (as indicated later in my message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev the Brit View Post
    The "-340" was a typo. I actually got -140 (as indicated later in my message.
    Ahh, yes, I see that now. Glad you weren't robbed as I thought.

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    Calgary and Toronto are going to be game time decisions on lines for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewcrew2k View Post
    Calgary and Toronto are going to be game time decisions on lines for sure.
    I have put all rules aside and played both Anaheim and Toronto at +1 1/2. Any 1 goal game is good, non 1 goal game, not so good.

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    How are se playing Toronto game if the odds are exactly same on both teams?

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    I took a chance and grabbed the Ducks -110 last night for the C bet, hoping they'd be a bigger favorite today. They're not, and they might not even be favorites come game time, but I'm stuck with that bet. So Ana ML and Tor PL it is for me, and I'm really hoping for a 3-2 Anaheim win! Not sure I'll try to anticipate the line movement overnight again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    I have put all rules aside and played both Anaheim and Toronto at +1 1/2. Any 1 goal game is good, non 1 goal game, not so good.
    What got into you Wallco lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    I have put all rules aside and played both Anaheim and Toronto at +1 1/2. Any 1 goal game is good, non 1 goal game, not so good.

    I did the same thing. Glad I'm not the only one laying the juice.

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    well, for what its worth id say its the right thing to do, anaheim is on a roll but 12 of their last 14 wins have been by 1 goal and has only lost 3 games (away) for 1+ against penguins sharks and blues so id say its the best way to go both +1.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    I have put all rules aside and played both Anaheim and Toronto at +1 1/2. Any 1 goal game is good, non 1 goal game, not so good.
    That's find of funny as I was seriously considering doing this very thing. Think its due to its such an important game (C on the line) and fact its suppose to be such a close matchup. Good Luck everyone. +1.5 + 1.5.

    The units ended up being 30.09 (C) for Ducks and surprising only 7.20 (B) for the leafs.
    Last edited by bald_guy; 12-16-14 at 05:02 PM.

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    Looks like the system play will be the puckline too without a dramatic line change. Will need a few beer before watching the game tonight lol. GL everyone!

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    I'm not sure if I can watch this game. I did +1.5 on both teams. Anaheim was -295 and Toronto was -320. Sweet Mary.

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    So if i want to tail this system then i sould just bet on all the A games because they are the start of the three game series? Sry if this has been asked a million times already

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    This is gonna be a hard one to watch for sure. Not liking my Anaheim bet at all, wish I had thought of taking both PL last night instead of stupidly taking Anaheim -110. At least I tell myself I'm in line for a 19 unit loss instead of a 36 unit loss had I taken both PLs... But yeah, I'm gonna kick myself big time if the Leafs win by 1...
    Only good thing is that I got Toronto +1.5 at -300.
    Maybe I'll just watch the Habs game!
    GL everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipshipley View Post
    So if i want to tail this system then i sould just bet on all the A games because they are the start of the three game series? Sry if this has been asked a million times already
    Correct. If you're just starting the system today, ignore the B and C bets today. Only play the A bets as they're the beginning of a new series.

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    Post #4563 needs changed as Toronto are -118 favorites. Even if its going to be changed to PL/PL, still needs changes as its backwards now. This is according to scores and odds. On 5 dimes they are nearly even.
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