1. #4341
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Yes, and Buffalo decides to show up today. A day late of course!
    mental! Couldnt believe Winnipeg beat the blackhawks yesterday. Blackhawks were $4.20 (aus betting), 320anerican I think.

    Winnipeg had scored 3 goals in 3 games, winning two of them! bloody hell

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    hi everyone

    ok, im new here but if i got the system, today it should be a b bet against st louis so i should play the rangers +1.5 today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha mm View Post
    ok, im new here but if i got the system, today it should be a b bet against st louis so i should play the rangers +1.5 today

    dafuq?! did you read todays plays? come on man

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    like I said before, im new here, and just read the system he uses i was trying to find out if i got it the way it is, havent gone through all the posts here just the way the system works

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha mm View Post
    ok, im new here but if i got the system, today it should be a b bet against st louis so i should play the rangers +1.5 today
    See Post #4339 for today's plays. Fading STL was play #15 and we won the A bet when COL covered the PL. That chase is over so there is no B bet against STL today.
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    thanks!

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2014-15 System to date: 15-0 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +15.00 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 3 (-4.73 units)

    v1 Fades
    (A) 4-5
    (B) 2-2

    (C) 2-0
    Losses: None

    v2 Plays
    (A) 3-6
    (B) 4-0

    (C) 0-0
    Losses: None


    Games for (11/4/14):
    #16 Pittsburgh @ Minnesota (M/L) v1 (B) (8:05 pm EST)
    #17 L.A. Kings @ Dallas (M/L) v2 (B) (8:35 pm EST)
    #18 L.A. Kings (+1½) @ Dallas v2 (B) (8:35 pm EST)
    #19 Pittsburgh (+1½) @ Minnesota v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)
    #20 Toronto @ Arizona (M/L) v1 (A) (9:05 pm EST)



    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L if the team we are betting on is the M/L favorite or in games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line (+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules and backtest can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
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    Was going over some numbers for October for hockey based on covers closing lines. Favorites are 90-59 (60%) not counting the games that are -105 on both sides. So if we are playing favorites -150 or higher we would probably be up very little.

    Not sure what you can take from this stat but thought it would be helpful in some way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    Was going over some numbers for October for hockey based on covers closing lines. Favorites are 90-59 (60%) not counting the games that are -105 on both sides. So if we are playing favorites -150 or higher we would probably be up very little.

    Not sure what you can take from this stat but thought it would be helpful in some way.
    That's what I was doing during the MLB season....backtesting NHL I was able to make a formula that I was able to input different lines, etc. and in NO way (that I remember) are you able to just play a certain dog/fav Money Line and expect to be up at the end of the year. Filters are needed..etc etc, blah blah
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn View Post
    That's what I was doing during the MLB season....backtesting NHL I was able to make a formula that I was able to input different lines, etc. and in NO way (that I remember) are you able to just play a certain dog/fav Money Line and expect to be up at the end of the year. Filters are needed..etc etc, blah blah
    Just wished my book offered to let me buy half a point on the total even if the juice is -200. The labby really destroys the over 5 and over 4.5 in hockey.

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    Missed todays games but was able to get ARZ -1.5 (-194) and Min +2.5 (+242) live bets. Hopefully Min can score at least once currently down 3-0. pit line at -2.5 was just way too expensive at -384 live right now. Waiting to see if i can still get Lak and Dal if the juice is not too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    Missed todays games but was able to get ARZ -1.5 (-194) and Min +2.5 (+242) live bets. Hopefully Min can score at least once currently down 3-0. pit line at -2.5 was just way too expensive at -384 live right now. Waiting to see if i can still get Lak and Dal if the juice is not too high.
    Why (-1 1/2)? Pretty risky for that high juiced amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Why (-1 1/2)? Pretty risky for that high juiced amount.
    Just thought they would hold them off since they were already up 2-0 when I bet it. Turn out I was wrong on all the hockey games I bet today. Just wrong side of every thing. I took Dal ML as well but I had a bad feeling about it since Lak had the momentum after the 2nd period with more shots on goal. Wanted to play the system as closely as possible though.

    Anyways hopefully I can wake up early enough to place the bets in the morning. Wasn't able to today. I had the games inputted into my excel sheet also since you posted them night before. Just wanted to wait until morning to see how the lines adjust. Oh well onto tomorrow!

    Thanks as always for the early postings.

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    2014-15 System to date: 18-0 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +18.00 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 2 (-8.94 units)

    (11/4/14):
    #16 Minnesota (M/L) v1 (B) - Loss
    #17 Dallas (M/L) v2 (B) - Loss
    #18 L.A. Kings (+1½) v2 (B) - Win
    #19 Pittsburgh (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
    #20 Arizona (M/L) v1 (A) - Win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 6-5
    (B) 2-3

    (C) 2-0
    Losses: None

    v2 Plays
    (A) 3-6
    (B) 5-1

    (C) 0-0
    Losses: None


    Games for (11/5/14):
    #16 Resumes v1 (C) on 11/6/14
    #17 Resumes v2 (C) on 11/6/14
    #21 N.Y. Islanders (+1½) @ Anaheim v2 (A) (10:35 pm EST)


    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L if the team we are betting on is the M/L favorite or in games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line (+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
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    Not much excitement tonight, but tomorrow will be fun/interesting. Will be our first (C) on V2.

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    Definitely will be interesting...worried about the Jets hosting Pitt. Pens have been DOMINATING lately scoring what 18 straight goals until the Wild's garbage time goal last night? Hopefully Winny can keep it close. Hey how about we're gonna be FADING the CANES?!!? Whodathunkit!

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    Is there a JM Hockey Thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imotiv8 View Post
    Is there a JM Hockey Thread?
    From Post # 4313
    I ran it for part of the season but got tired of the trolls. This season I wont even have time to even try and attempt to run a thread.

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2014-15 System to date: 19-0 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +19.00 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 2 (-8.94 units)

    (11/5/14):
    #21 N.Y. Islanders (+1½) v2 (A) - Win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 6-5
    (B) 2-3

    (C) 2-0
    Losses: None

    v2 Plays
    (A) 4-6
    (B) 5-1

    (C) 0-0
    Losses: None


    Games for (11/6/14):
    #16 Pittsburgh @ Winnipeg (+1½) v1 (C) (8:05 pm EST)
    #17 Nashville @ Dallas (M/L) v2 (C) (8:35 pm EST)
    #22 Calgary (+1½) @ Tampa Bay v1 (A) (7:35 pm EST)
    #23 Calgary @ Tampa Bay (M/L) v1 (A) (7:35 pm EST)
    #24 New Jersey (+1½) @ St. Louis v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)
    #25 Pittsburgh (M/L) @ Winnipeg v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)
    #26 Edmonton (+1½) @ Boston v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)


    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L if the team we are betting on is the M/L favorite or in games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line (+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
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    I knew about the 2 (C)'s tonight didn't realize there would be so many (A)'s. Should make for an awesome/interesting NHL night!!
    Last edited by bald_guy; 11-06-14 at 08:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bald_guy View Post
    I knew about the 2 (C)'s tonight didn't realize there would be so many (A)'s. Should make for an awesome/interesting NHL night!!

    (After I figure out how many units for both (C)'s is on the line tonight with both (C)'s (with the odds I got) will post the results to this message)
    One of the C's is a low money line play, the other is a mid 200's P/L play. Shouldn't be too bad for having two C's the same night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    One of the C's is a low money line play, the other is a mid 200's P/L play. Shouldn't be too bad for having two C's the same night.
    By my humble calculations (will vary some depending on the lines):
    #16 9.68 units risk tonight
    #17 8.39 units risk tonight
    Total C Risk for tonight: 18.07

    Not too bad for (C) bets. However, both together equals nearly our profit to date (19 units).

    So, will be an interesting night. Very much looking forward to it. Its the chase part that makes me like this system so much.

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    Nice PKing for WINNNYYY!! ..what a game!!!

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    Seems Dallas is the favorite in the last 3 games, yet never win the game. Shame they wasn't the underdog tonight.

    O well, there is going to be some (C)'s slip through. Congrats on the Pitt game.

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    Looks like I missed a good night. Depending on the juice I think should be a winning night...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    Looks like I missed a good night. Depending on the juice I think should be a winning night...
    (sorry, math was wrong before. Only took loss on (c).)

    Should be 4 units won, approx 13.84 loss.
    Last edited by bald_guy; 11-07-14 at 08:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bald_guy View Post
    Seems Dallas is the favorite in the last 3 games, yet never win the game. Shame they wasn't the underdog tonight.

    O well, there is going to be some (C)'s slip through. Congrats on the Pitt game.
    Exactly my thought...Why in the world was Dallas favored tonight?? Nashville 8-3-2 and Dallas struggling to do anything right.

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    2014-15 System to date: 23-1 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +8.30 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 2 (-3.14 units)

    (11/6/14):
    #16 Winnipeg (+1½) v1 (C) - Win
    #17 Dallas (M/L) v2 (C) - Loss
    #22 Calgary (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss
    #23 Tampa Bay (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
    #24 New Jersey (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
    #25 Pittsburgh (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
    #26 Edmonton (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss

    v1 Fades
    (A) 9-7
    (B) 2-3

    (C) 3-0
    Losses: None

    v2 Plays
    (A) 4-6
    (B) 5-1

    (C) 0-1
    Losses: DAL (-14.70 u)


    Games for (11/7/14):
    #22 Resumes v1 (B) on 11/8/14
    #26 Resumes v1 (B) on 11/10/14
    #27 Columbus (+1½) @ Carolina v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)


    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


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    System rules and backtest can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
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    Thank you very much for the points everyone. Very generous.

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    winner!

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    2014-15 System to date: 24-1 (fin. series)
    Systemprofit/loss: +9.30 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 2 (-3.14 units)

    (11/7/14):
    #27 Columbus (+1½) v1 (A) - Win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 10-7
    (B) 2-3

    (C) 3-0
    Losses: None

    v2 Plays
    (A) 4-6
    (B) 5-1

    (C) 0-1
    Losses: DAL (-14.70 u)


    Games for (11/8/14):
    #22 Tampa Bay @ Columbus (+1½) v1 (B) (7:05 pm EST)
    #26 Resumes v1 (B) on 11/10/14
    #28 San Jose @ Dallas (+1½) v2 (A) (8:05 pm EST)
    #29 Pittsburgh @ Buffalo (+1½) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
    #30 N.Y. Islanders (M/L) @ Arizona v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)


    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L if the team we are betting on is the M/L favorite or in games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line (+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules and backtest can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 11-08-14 at 04:36 PM.
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    Keep an eye in the Dallas play everyone. Looks like it might end up being +1.5

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    This wasn't a day to remember. On to the next.

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2014-15 System to date: 25-1 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +10.30 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 4 (-12.24 units)

    (11/8/14):
    #22 Columbus (+1½) v1 (B) - Loss
    #28 Dallas (+1½) v2 (A) - Loss
    #29 Buffalo (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss
    #30 N.Y. Islanders (M/L) v1 (A) - Win

    v1 Fades
    (A) 11-8
    (B) 2-4

    (C) 3-0
    Losses: None

    v2 Plays
    (A) 4-7
    (B) 5-1

    (C) 0-1
    Losses: DAL (-14.70 u)


    Games for (11/9/14):
    #22 Tampa Bay @ Detroit (M/L) v1 (C) (6:05 pm EST)
    #26 Resumes v1 (B) on 11/10/14
    #28 Resumes v2 (B) on 11/11/14
    #30 Resumes v1 (B) on 11/11/14


    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L if the team we are betting on is the M/L favorite or in games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line (+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules and backtest can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 11-09-14 at 12:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slanina View Post
    This wasn't a day to remember. On to the next.
    Yeah, that was a rough one. Hopefully Detroit can pull our asses ot of the fire tomorrow.

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