[Wallco99]

The last 3 years have flown by and its been a pleasure "knowing" you. Happy New Year to you too, Wallco

Back at you 100%.

[alexknyc]

As Andy stated, they ended the favorite. They actually turned to favorite at 11:41 AM yesterday and never went back to a dog after that. M/L @ -109 was the play.

Denver the other night and now Calgary. I'm ready to turn the page on 2013.

Hope 2014 works out better for me.

[Wallco99]

Denver the other night and now Calgary. I'm ready to turn the page on 2013.

Hope 2014 works out better for me.

Don't know what the issue was with Calgary. They turned favorite 9 1/2 hours before the game started. I agree that Denver was a little rough for some who may have settled for a lower line, but Calgary was nothing out of the ordinary for an NHL close line game. Favorites switch back and forth quite frequently in these games, which is why we say to wait a little closer to game time to place your wagers until we are sure what side we are on, especially when the road team opens as a low line favorite in the NHL.

[alexknyc]

Don't know what the issue was with Calgary. They turned favorite 9 1/2 hours before the game started. I agree that Denver was a little rough for some who may have settled for a lower line, but Calgary was nothing out of the ordinary for an NHL close line game. Favorites switch back and forth quite frequently in these games, which is why we say to wait a little closer to game time to place your wagers until we are sure what side we are on, especially when the road team opens as a low line favorite in the NHL.

Can't always wait for the later line. Sometimes I have to place the bets as is.

Oh well. On to the next.

[Wallco99]

Can't always wait for the later line. Sometimes I have to place the bets as is.

Oh well. On to the next.

Sorry about that. Sometimes you win by accident that way also. Best to wait when you can though.

[cmendo2005]

Happy new year everyone best wishes for a great year with wallcos old winnings!

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 112-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +18.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.09 units)


v1 Fades
(A) 60-22
(B) 15-6
(C) 3-3
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 21-14
(B) 5-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (1/2/14):
#117 Philadelphia @ Colorado (M/L) v1 (B) (9:05 pm EST)
#118 Winnipeg @ Ottawa (M/L) v1 (A) (7:35 pm EST)
#119 L.A. Kings (+1½) @ St. Louis v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)



Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[AKell]

I been following this system for the past two years and would like to thank Wallco for sharing of it and the 1-7-5 NBA system. I like others lost on the Calgary game on the puck line because we put our plays in early. I have to do this because I work afternoons and put in my plays before I go. There is really nothing I can do about this, but I know that this has also been a blessing in the past. I did not lose the Detroit series because I got the puck line on the (C) game and they became the favorite by game time. I'm thankful that the Calgary game was just an (A) and we still have time to recover.

[cmendo2005]

Alright bad start to 2014 missing picks, but coming back strong today I can feel it!

[TwoCats]

Can't always wait for the later line. Sometimes I have to place the bets as is.

Oh well. On to the next.

I have the same problem due to time zone differences (as do other people). It is just one of those things that you have to live with.

If it looks like being a close line game, it may be better to stay away from it knowing that you will not lose anything - you just will not win anything!

[themerceny]

loving your picks. giving me a good start to my 2014!

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 114-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +20.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-2.55 units)

(1/2/14):
#117 Colorado (M/L) v1 (B) - Win
#118 Ottawa (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
#119 L.A. Kings (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss


v1 Fades
(A) 61-23
(B) 16-6
(C) 3-3
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 21-14
(B) 5-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (1/3/14):
#119 Resumes v1 (B) on 1/4/14
#120 Tampa Bay @ Calgary (+1½) v2 (A) (9:05 pm EST)



Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings arebased on FINAL lines fromScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[manchild]

I have Calgary as a play tonight

Loss 0-2 12/27
Loss 0-2 12/29
Loss 1-4 12/31

Am i missing something as to why this is not a play.

PS This is my first post but have been following for a while.
Thanx for the great system and all the hard work.

[twestacott]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 114-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +20.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-2.55 units)

(1/2/14):
#117 Colorado (M/L) v1 (B) - Win
#118 Ottawa (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
#119 L.A. Kings (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss


v1 Fades
(A) 61-23
(B) 16-6
(C) 3-3
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 21-14
(B) 5-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



There are no system plays for (1/3/14):
#119 Resumes v1 (B) on 1/4/14



Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

I am a noob to this system so crooect me if I am wrong but I think Calgary doesnt qualify for V2 because those last two losses were only by 2 goals so that covers the puck line. V2 only qualifies if the team lost 3 in a wrong and didn't cover the puck line in any of those games

[Wallco99]

I have Calgary as a play tonight

Loss 0-2 12/27
Loss 0-2 12/29
Loss 1-4 12/31

Am i missing something as to why this is not a play.

PS This is my first post but have been following for a while.
Thanx for the great system and all the hard work.

Yes they are. I have them on my spreadsheet but have their next game listed as 1/6/14, I overlooked tonight's game somehow. Add them in as play #120.

[Wallco99]

I am a noob to this system so crooect me if I am wrong but I think Calgary doesnt qualify for V2 because those last two losses were only by 2 goals so that covers the puck line. V2 only qualifies if the team lost 3 in a wrong and didn't cover the puck line in any of those games

I must correct your spelling of the word "correct". And please don't quote my plays in your posts. Because today, there was a game added late, now you went ahead and quoted my plays before the addition and now the most recent list of plays in this thread is the incorrect one. So once again, please do not quote the plays. Thanks.

[KennyM10]

Wallco how did that -260 favorite pan out? You have time to insult someone but not post the result?

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 114-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +20.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-5.02 units)

(1/3/14):
#120 Calgary (+1½) v2 (A) - Loss


v1 Fades
(A) 61-23
(B) 16-6
(C) 3-3
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 21-15
(B) 5-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (1/4/14):
#119 Columbus (+1½) @ St. Louis v1 (B) (8:05 pm EST)
#120 Resumes v2 (B) on 1/6/14
#121 Carolina (+1½) @ N.Y. Islanders v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#122 N.Y. Rangers (+1½) @ Toronto v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#123 Ottawa @ Montreal (M/L) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#124 Washington (+1½) @ Minnesota v2 (A) (8:05 pm EST)



Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[Philanthropist]

Wallco how did that -260 favorite pan out? You have time to insult someone but not post the result?

Probably felt like +15 units on the season.

^p^

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 116-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +22.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 4 (-15.03 units)

(1/4/14):
#119 Columbus (+1½) v1 (B) - Loss
#121 Carolina (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#122 N.Y. Rangers (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#123 Montreal (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
#124 Washington (+1½) v2 (A) - Loss


v1 Fades
(A) 63-24
(B) 16-7
(C) 3-3
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 21-16
(B) 5-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (1/5/14):
#119 Resumes v1 (C) on 1/7/14
#120 Resumes v2 (B) on 1/6/14
#123 Resumes v1 (B) on 1/8/14
#124 Resumes v2 (B) on 1/9/14
#125 Nashville (+1½) @ Carolina v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#126 Vancouver (+1½) @ Anaheim v2 (A) (8:05 pm EST)


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 118-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +24.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 4 (-15.03 units)

(1/5/14):
#125 Nashville (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#126 Vancouver (+1½) v2 (A) - Win


v1 Fades
(A) 64-24
(B) 16-7
(C) 3-3
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 22-16
(B) 5-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (1/6/14):
#119 Resumes v1 (C) on 1/7/14
#120 Calgary (+1½) @ Colorado v2 (B) (9:05 pm EST)
#123 Resumes v1 (B) on 1/8/14
#124 Resumes v2 (B) on 1/9/14
#127 Calgary (+1½) @ Colorado v1 (A) (9:05 pm EST)



Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[Greg242]

I cant find the A bet for #120 that is the B bet today. Can anyone help me find the date somehow my records must have got messed up. Thanks

[Cutler'sThumb]

I cant find the A bet for #120 that is the B bet today. Can anyone help me find the date somehow my records must have got messed up. Thanks

Check post #3725. It was a play that slipped thru the cracks, but was caught before game. I'm frankly impressed that this doesn't happen more often based how much work it is to keep up with both filters. Thanks again for your hard work and willingness to share Wallco!

[Greg242]

Check post #3725. It was a play that slipped thru the cracks, but was caught before game. I'm frankly impressed that this doesn't happen more often based how much work it is to keep up with both filters. Thanks again for your hard work and willingness to share Wallco!

Ah ok I see now. Thank you

[cambertos]

Check post #3725. It was a play that slipped thru the cracks, but was caught before game. I'm frankly impressed that this doesn't happen more often based how much work it is to keep up with both filters. Thanks again for your hard work and willingness to share Wallco!

kiss ass !

[cmendo2005]

Alright doubling down on Calgary I like it!

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 120-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +26.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-12.56 units)

(1/6/14):
#120 Calgary (+1½) v2 (B) - Win
#127 Calgary (+1½) v1 (A) - Win


v1 Fades
(A) 65-24
(B) 16-7
(C) 3-3
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 22-16
(B) 6-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (1/7/14):
#119 St. Louis @ Edmonton (+1½) v1 (C) (9:35 pm EST)
#123 Resumes v1 (B) on 1/8/14
#124 Resumes v2 (B) on 1/9/14
#128 Boston (+1½) @ Anaheim v1 (A) (10:05 pm EST)



Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[KennyM10]

Damn I must stop in at the very worst times, another series loss and another -350 loser?

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 120-5 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +1.39 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-6.84 units)

(1/7/14):
#119 Edmonton (+1½) v1 (C) - Loss
#128 Boston (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss


v1 Fades
(A) 65-24
(B) 16-7
(C) 3-4
Losses: VAN (-24.04 u), LAK (-26.60 u), PIT (-29.63 u), STL (-25.52 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 22-16
(B) 6-9
(C) 8-1
Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



Games for (1/8/14):
#123 Ottawa @ Colorado (M/L) v1 (B) (9:35 pm EST)
#124 Resumes v2 (B) on 1/9/14
#128 Resumes v1 (B) on 1/9/14



Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

[cmendo2005]

Yeah what a shock a troll only showing up when he turns out right once in a blue moon how odd.

[skyscrapers]

Sometimes I wonder what really is going on (or not going on) in the brain of a troll.
Whatever it is it should be classified as a mental health illness and should seek professional advice.

[HowardRoark]

If i may offer my humble opinion here. I think this is a good system, but maybe it could use a small refinement (which i will be applying myself from now on): I suggest the use of some sort of filter to try and minimize losses. For example if we're fading a team, say St Louis like we just did, then we can take a look at the 3 teams that they will be facing next, in our case it was LAK, CBJ, and EDM. STL is better than all 3 teams in every category that matters: overall record, at home, away, last 10, and goal differential.
What i will do from now on is look at these statistics and only play the series if the team we're fading is worse or equal than at least 2 of the 3 teams being faced, in at least 2 categories out of 3 (overall record, last 10, and goal differential). And if its a chase then the team we're chasing should be better or equal than at least 2 of the next 3 teams, and by better i mean have better stats in 2 out of those 3 categories i mentioned.
I know this would reduce the number of plays that qualify, but i think there would be fewer loses and so it would still be profitable.

I'd like to hear your opinion on this idea.

[Mako-SBR]

If i may offer my humble opinion here. I think this is a good system, but maybe it could use a small refinement (which i will be applying myself from now on): I suggest the use of some sort of filter to try and minimize losses. For example if we're fading a team, say St Louis like we just did, then we can take a look at the 3 teams that they will be facing next, in our case it was LAK, CBJ, and EDM. STL is better than all 3 teams in every category that matters: overall record, at home, away, last 10, and goal differential.
What i will do from now on is look at these statistics and only play the series if the team we're fading is worse or equal than at least 2 of the 3 teams being faced, in at least 2 categories out of 3 (overall record, last 10, and goal differential). And if its a chase then the team we're chasing should be better or equal than at least 2 of the next 3 teams, and by better i mean have better stats in 2 out of those 3 categories i mentioned.
I know this would reduce the number of plays that qualify, but i think there would be fewer loses and so it would still be profitable.

I'd like to hear your opinion on this idea.

Cool cool, so you've backtested and have 5+ years of data for us to see how your refinement plays out?

If not, then...

For the rest of us: There's no need for a refinement of a system that is backtested nearly a decade. Stick to it as is, take the ups with the downs. This is gambling, anything can happen. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Yes, you're going to have entire down seasons, it's happened before. But it's not the norm.

This isn't a system for those without smart bankrolling, and large reserves.

[HowardRoark]

no of course i dont have the backtests. Actually i wouldn't even know how to do that, since I would need to see the standings at the day that each series began.
But i'd be curious to see, and willing to do it too. Any tips on how i could get a database of all the nhl results for the last 5 years?

[chris86]

The smart people who use this system will evaluate every play and avoid any high risk plays. The rest of the sheeple here can blindly follow the system and lose money unnecessarily by making high risk losing bets.