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People are getting anxious trying to predict plays and double check the plays I have posted. Just sit back and enjoy the system, I will take care of the rest. I have never missed a post yet so there is no need to believe I will start now.Originally Posted by kvngr
Ok.I was confused to but if I'm correct if the Ducks win tonight the play is PL Yotes on Friday.BOL Wallco99.Cheers
Just wanted to say thanks for all this work you put into your posts and system. Its amazing how accurate you are.
Thank you for the kind words. But I only have one gaurantee....there WILL be losses as well.Just wanted to say thanks for all this work you put into your posts and system. Its amazing how accurate you are.
I was looking for a good way to get into the NHL, great system and posts! Thanks bruh
Great start Wallco. Outstanding system.
Best part about winning is it keeps the Trolls out
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 5-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +5.00 units (fin.series)
Current open series: 0
(10/16/13):
#5 N.Y. Rangers (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
v1 Plays
(A) 3-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0
Losses: None
v2 Plays
(A) 2-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0
Losses: None
Games for (10/17/13):
#6 Detroit @ Colorado (M/L) v1 (A) (9:05 pm EDT)
#7 San Jose @ Dallas (+1½) v1 (A) (8:35 pm EDT)
#8 Detroit (+1½) @ Colorado v1 (A) (9:05 pm EDT)
#9 St. Louis(+1½) @ Chicago v1 (A) (8:05 pm EDT)
#10 Carolina (+1½) @ Toronto v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#11 Columbus (+1½) @ Montreal v1 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #2446 and #2447.
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Oh heavy day
A heavy day is when you have 6 "C" bets. LOL.
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The picks with teams +1 1/2, there's way too much juice. So you guys just risk a lot more $ ?
Great start to the year!
Sometimes I'll throw them in a parlay to reduce the juice and take the loss if the other part of the parlay loses and the team wins. Just starting out again this year and bankroll is small so I'm going that route today.
round robin is the way to play it.
Thanks Wallco99 great job
When there's a conflict the rules say to play both, but on a practical front, does that really make sense? Do some of you take one side or the other and hope for the best, then perhaps pick up the B bet?
Yesterday had ANA one system and CAL other system. It is very amazing how many times the favorite literally wins by 1 run and you end up winning both bets. Parlay it with a huge favorite if you want, just make sure they really are a huge favorite! Maybe pick a 20pt favorite in basketball or football and do a two team parlay with that team and all six bets today. I am personally just playing it how it is. Have a couple systems with overlap today, so LETS GET IT! About 25 units at risk today with all the systems.
good luck!
It's up to you what to bet on, but like J.M. Disciple said, with so many games winning by one goal, there's a good chance the favorite could win by one and you win both bets. Even if that doesn't happen, you're guaranteed at least one win. But ultimately, it's your bankroll, so it's your decision.
No, don't skip. One goal games are very common in hockey, so winning both sides happens frequently, and there is zero chance of losing both. Also, there may not be a "B" bet that you speak of, so you could miss out on BOTH units.
Last edited by Wallco99; 10-17-13 at 02:19 PM.
Way too much juice. None of us have the bankroll to bet 2 or more C bets at once. We definitely can't play all of these games tonight.
Make your unit size smaller than. Idk why you would speak for everyone when you say none of us have the bankroll to make two c bets at once. Some times it takes high juice to make a winning system. I always advocate using the labby so your C bets are not as big. Google it.
Holy Cow Wallco, Carolina just BLEW that for you. That was BS...
I don't have to google the labby. That may work for some people... you are right there. However, I was commenting on this system. Sounds more like martingale than labby. Correct me if I am wrong.
Not trying to be a hater; just pointing out the obvious. This system (played as stated) isn't possible for the average/typical player. You need to be extremely discipline and have a large bankroll... regardless of unit size.
Most guys here only bet with one book or only local. They are already behind.
Max loss is like 40 units. make your unit size .5% and there is no problem.
There have been 3 "C" games in a night and I remember one night with 60 units Being wagered. I think it was a sweep.
Another nice night for systems. JM goes 2-0, nhl home system (with filters) goes 2-0, and gold goes 4-2. *should of been 5-1, but were not here to play what IFs. Going to add 5 more units to my roll and up 11 units on the week.
Hopefully wallco has some plays tomorrow, other two systems have nothing until Saturday.
JM what ya tailing and following for nba starting soon!!
AWESOME systems and recordkeeping Wallco ...thanks for all your hard work and effort , continued success always !!!
Going to labby JM system, chase110, and if I can find someone posting JDwarrior plays I will follow him as well. If i had more time during work I would follow Solaman's half system as well, but cant always check half time scores while I am at work. Almost anything I follow will be based on the labby. Those are only two NBA systems I will be following for now unless I discover another one someone has back tested. Plenty of hockey action so far and its crushing! ABSOLUTELY LOVING HOCKEY SEASON! I am not a hockey fan, but these systems keep putting money in my pockets I am going to have to buy some shark tickets.
How come you labby and don't just do the abc?
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 9-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +9.00 units (fin.series)
Current open series: 2 (-3.41 units)
(10/17/13):
#6 Colorado (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
#7 Dallas (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#8 Detroit (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#9 St. Louis (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#10 Carolina (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#11 Columbus (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss
v1 Plays
(A) 7-2
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0
Losses: None
v2 Plays
(A) 2-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0
Losses: None
Games for (10/18/13):
#6 Resumes v1 (B) on 10/19/13
#11 Resumes v1 (B) on 10/19/13
#12 Phoenix (+1½) @ Anaheim v1 (A) (10:05 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #2446 and #2447.
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I have a question regarding the profits and losses for the system..
Wouldn't somebody who bet all 6 games last night be showing a net loss for the night if they bet the same amount of money for each game? I'm basing this off of the odds that were being given for the games. The 5 P/L games went off in the -200 to -245 range (give or take, depending on which sportsbook you use). Winning 4 of them probably wouldn't have been enough to offset the losses on the other 2 games.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. I have enjoyed using the system thus far. I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Thanks..
I netted a .20 unit win last night. Chase systems are about recapturing your losses, so you will have some down nights even without any C bet losing.
The system won 4 and lost 2 last night. Wins are always one unit each, and losses can vary depending on your book. Walco's post above shows -3.41 units on the open series, both of which occurred last night, which means the net for last night was 4 - 3.41 = +0.59 units. One of the losses was a M/L loss, so that's probably why it's still positive.
You can have ROI of +5% or -5% placing exactly the same wagers for a period of time... depending on which sportsbook you use
i am not going to clutter this thread with a bunch of labby stuff. Its just a matter of comfort. It makes A B and C more equal to each other rather than increasing and risking up to 40 units on a series. Quick example of a -250 chase.
A) $250 to win $100
B) $875 to win $350
C) $3062 to win $1225
Of course not all these series are -250 juice; this is just an example. Now lets break it down to how I run my labby.
starting labby lines:
A) 50-50-50-50
B) 50-50-50-50
C) 50-50-50-50
A) loses $250 to win $100
New lines:
A) 65-65-65-65-65
B) 81-81-81-81
C) 50-50-50-50
B Loses $405 to win $162
New Lines:
A)65-65-65-65-65
B) 105-105-105-105-105
C) 101-101-101-101
C loses: $505 to win $202
Total loss $1160. Just little over 11.5 units. Compared to a -250 martingale chase ($4,187) over 41 units.
Obviously I do not recover all my losses from A and B with one bet, but its lower risk overall and could mean lower profit throughout the season if system goes undefeated. I just prefer a slow and steady profit rather than a roller coaster ride. As grinder said he has seen two C-bets in the same day where total risk was around 60 units. Maybe I will only have like 10 units at risk that day instead. For me labby is a lot less stressful. Of course its a little more work managing your lines, but I like it. There are many different variations of the labby. If you need more info just search for ON3's MLB thread and there are plenty of examples in there. It is very similar.
Sorry wallco, I will let this be the first and last labby post for this thread for this season. I know NBA last season or season before was pages of this stuff.
Good Luck and lets add another unit with PHO tonight looking promising at (-235).
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