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wow dude what are you doing with that 8 dollars you are up ? ....8 units after wagering about 500 units ...great job....old saying WHAT HAVE YOU DONE LATELY?Originally Posted by Grinder12000
LOL - pretty lame coming from someone that is actually LOSING money. At least we are up!
OH - here is the last 2 years of LIVE betting on the GOLD system - totally sucks to be you Joboarder
Obviously you failed at arithmetic. Or don't have a clue how to read a unit chart. Probably both. Your post says it all.
either way. I rest my case.
Uhh.. Are you seriously trying to dog by using a graph that shows a 100 percent profit in the span of two years?
you guys MADE 8 units ...THIS YEAR....it is about making money...you made * units THIS YEAR.....WOW....keep living in the past and have fun with ALL those profits this year...ROI ...what is it this year....you guys basically have doner nothing this year except break even...NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PAST.
You're obviously an idiot so I don't know why I'm bothering to reply. If you want to see short term than go ahead and lol and rofl all you want. But if anyone with any clue about investing had your mentality of "only this year matters" the 1%ers on Wall Street would have a lot less money. But go ahead living your ignorant paycheck to paycheck life constantly wondering how you can never get ahead and trolling on those who know how.
Joboarder is a get rich quick kind of guy! LOL And remember - being +8 units (which is not what we are) is better then 95% of all sports wagerers. He's whining because we are UP money! Now THAT my friends, is a true sign of a loser.
Long time lurker here but I've never followed the system. The way I see it is this: EVERYONE who gambles puts in their time to do research. But even after all that, the majority of the people are in the red. So there cannot be a discussion on ROI cuz thats just dumb. If Wallco and the crew are up 8 units only in 2 years, well f**k, at least they're up. Wallco is putting his effort to HIS system like ALL bettors do to their own. He's up while most would be down.
Still waiting for you to show something better.
It's actually +76 the past two seasons and +529 the past 8 seasons. Any way you slice it they are right, jboarder is an idiot!
Just an observation from looking at the chart - the only big time losses occur near the end of each season, when most playoff teams have been determined.
Eliminated teams give up hope, call up AAA players, etc at this point, making it very tough for Vegas to properly handicap. My guess is that we are paying too much juice on the +1.5 lines and backing an underdog that really has nothing to play for.
I'm on my cell phone viewing this so I can't see the chart very well - but maybe we stop the system for the year when X number of teams have clinched/eliminated.
Just a thought.
I was thinking that same thing JZAL. I stop playing my NFL system in week 13 for that exact reason.
my strategy. For next year was to stop early. No need to get greedy
Thats actually pretty smart I cant say that thought went through my head exactly but i've decided i'm going to avoid any bet involving carolina like the plague and maybe be a bit more picky when teams in the system have key injuries. I love wallcos system and hes done amazing work and thank him for what hes given us.
Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 107-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +13.96 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-4.90 units)
(4/12/13):
#112 Nashville (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
#113 Detroit (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#114 Columbus (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Plays
(A) 52-27
(B) 14-11
(C) 9-2
Losses: Min (-18.04 u), WAS (-23.28 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 19-15
(B) 8-7
(C) 5-2
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u), CAR(-31.57)
Games for (4/13/13):
#110 Vancouver @ Colorado (+1½) v1 (B) (3:05 pm EDT)
#111 Boston @ Carolina (+1½) v2 (B) (7:05 pm EDT)
#112 San Jose (M/L) @ Dallas v1 (B) (8:05 pm EDT)
#115 N.Y. Rangers (+1½) @ N.Y. Islanders v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#116 Tampa Bay (+1½) @ Washington v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#117 Philadelphia (+1½) @ Buffalo v2 (A) (3:05 pm EDT)
#118 Pittsburgh @ Florida (+1½) v1 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
Last edited by Wallco99; 04-13-13 at 04:18 PM.
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I decided to backtest this concept by looking at the two worst teams from the past 7 seasons. I looked at their overall W/L record, W/L vs puckline (+1.5 goals), did they have 3 puckline losses in a row? and did they have 6 puckline losses in a row? (including the 3 games prior to the last 10 of the season) Here are the results: (I suspect the formatting will not look good on a mobile device.)
Year Team L 10 vs PL 3 PL Losses in a row? 6 PL losses in a row?
11/12 Edmonton 4-6 6-4 No No
11/12 Columbus 6-4 6-4 No No
10/11 Colorado 2-8 8-2 No No
10/11 Edmonton 2-8 4-6 No No
9/10 Toronto 4-6 7-3 No No
9/10 Edmonton 4-6 8-2 No No
8/9 TB 1-9 3-7 Yes (4 and 3) No
8/9 NYI 2-8 4-6 No No
7/8 LA 4-6 7-3 No No
7/8 TB 2-8 3-7 Yes (4 and 3) No
6/7 Phoenix 3-7 7-3 No No
6/7 Philly 2-8 5-5 No No
5/6 Pittsburgh 4-6 8-2 No No
5/6 St. Louis 1-9 5-5 No No
Total 41-99 81-59 (58%)
Here are my observations/take-aways:
1. In the past 7 seasons, the two worst teams would most likely have never cost you a V2 series loss in the last 10 games of the season because they never lost 6 games versus the puckline in a row. (I am assuming that they would have been the underdog in each of those games and therefore, you would have been betting the puckline)
2. If you need one of the two worst teams to cover the puckline in a V1 series, they have a 58% chance of doing so versus an average team. I'm not sure how they performed versus good teams or teams on a winning streak.
Sorry about the formatting. It looks worse than it did when I was typing it up.
Anyway....outside of the blah blah blah and wahhh wahhh wahhh, my system has 7 plays today, all which now and will always count. Good luck to those of us still following.
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Am I correct in assuming that we're betting the ML on San Jose ???
I think my analysis confirms that the system is still a solid play even when playing the two worst teams in the league at the end of the season. GL to all of us still following.
Yes
Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 107-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +13.96 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-4.90 units)
(4/12/13):
#112 Nashville (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
#113 Detroit (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#114 Columbus (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Plays
(A) 52-27
(B) 14-11
(C) 9-2
Losses: Min (-18.04 u), WAS (-23.28 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 19-15
(B) 8-7
(C) 5-2
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u), CAR(-31.57)
Games for (4/13/13):
#110 Vancouver @ Colorado (+1½) v1 (B) (3:05 pm EDT)
#111 Boston @ Carolina (+1½) v2 (B) (7:05 pm EDT)
#112 San Jose (M/L) @ Dallas v1 (B) (8:05 pm EDT)
#115 N.Y. Rangers (+1½) @ N.Y. Islanders v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#116 Tampa Bay (+1½) @ Washington v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#117 Philadelphia (+1½) @ Buffalo v2 (A) (3:05 pm EDT)
#118 Pittsburgh @ Florida (+1½) v1 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
Wow another b loss and a huge Pl loss on Florida, looks like this system might flush out like the NBA system. Tough night Wally, what did that b loss cost everyone?
how pathetic....first time checking this thread in over a month and i can see kenny the hater still going strong. that's one dedicated troll. it's pretty sickening if you think about it. this guy is sitting at home and consistently trolling someone he's never met. month after month every night he's sitting at home bashing a stranger. wtf
why doesn't sbr ban kenny? i clicked the "report post" link many times and nothing ever happens.
He's just a child looking for attention and hates seeing others win while he continues to lose.
Losers always hate winners
Last edited by Grinder12000; 04-14-13 at 09:57 AM.
Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 112-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +18.96 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-6.09 units)
(4/13/13):
#110 Colorado (+1½) v1 (B) - Win
#111 Carolina (+1½) v2 (B) - Win
#112 San Jose (M/L) v1 (B) - Loss
#115 N.Y. Rangers (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#116 Tampa Bay (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
#117 Philadelphia (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#118 Florida (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss
v1 Plays
(A) 54-28
(B) 15-12
(C) 9-2
Losses: Min (-18.04 u), WAS (-23.28 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 20-16
(B) 9-7
(C) 5-2
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u), CAR(-31.57)
There are no system plays for (4/14/13):
#112 Resumes v1 (C) on 4/15/13
#118 Resumes v1 (B) on 4/17/13
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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Just found your thread...very interesting. I'm not surprised that your unit count is down a little this year. We have to remember there are a lot of factors that change during a 48 game season. Teams are playing 3-4 games everyweek and injuries are piling up. Also schedules have way less cross conference play. I'm just going to watch what your doing over the rest of the season and probably lay some plays next season but keep up the good work. What your doing looks great to me!
Tommygunn - actually the system was AWESOME until Carolina sucked everything out of it with huge losses in the last 2 and 6 seconds last week. We all felt the schedule was actually a bonus.
I think about 50 units were lost in the last week from Carolina.
Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 112-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +18.96 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-6.09 units)
v1 Plays
(A) 54-28
(B) 15-12
(C) 9-2
Losses: Min (-18.04 u), WAS (-23.28 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 20-16
(B) 9-7
(C) 5-2
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u), CAR(-31.57)
Games for (4/15/13):
#112 Dallas @ Chicago (M/L) v1 (C) (8:05 pm EDT)
#118 Resumes v1 (B) on 4/17/13
#119 Minnesota (M/L) @ Calgary v2 (A) (9:05 pm EDT)
#120 Columbus @ Colorado (+1½) v1 (A) (9:05 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
Last edited by Wallco99; 04-15-13 at 05:02 PM.
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Not sure Minnesota we can get +1.5 LOL
Wallco,
Thanks for a great season! I love this system. Do you have or recommend an MLB system to learn about and follow? Thanks in advance.
Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 115-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +21.96 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.70 units)
(4/15/13):
#112 Chicago (M/L) v1 (C) - Win
#119 Minnesota (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#120 Colorado (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Plays
(A) 54-28
(B) 15-12
(C) 9-2
Losses: Min (-18.04 u), WAS (-23.28 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 20-16
(B) 9-7
(C) 5-2
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u), CAR(-31.57)
Games for (4/16/13):
#118 Resumes v1 (B) on 4/17/13
#121 Tampa Bay (+1½) @ Winnipeg v1 (A) (8:05 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 116-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +22.96 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.70 units)
(4/16/13):
#121 Tampa Bay (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Plays
(A) 56-28
(B) 15-12
(C) 10-2
Losses: Min (-18.04 u), WAS (-23.28 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 21-16
(B) 9-7
(C) 5-2
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u), CAR(-31.57)
Games for (4/17/13):
#118 Montreal (+1½) @ Pittsburgh v1 (B) (7:05 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 116-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +22.96 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-8.45 units)
(4/17/13):
#118 Montreal (+1½) v1 (B) - Loss
v1 Plays
(A) 56-28
(B) 15-13
(C) 10-2
Losses: Min (-18.04 u), WAS (-23.28 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 21-16
(B) 9-7
(C) 5-2
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u), CAR(-31.57)
Games for (4/18/13):
#118 Resumes v1 (C) on 4/19/13
#122 Florida (+1½) @ N.Y. Rangers v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#123 Washington (+1½) @ Ottawa v1 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
#124 Tampa Bay @ Montreal (M/L) v2 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 117-4 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +23.96 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-10.80 units)
(4/18/13):
#122 Florida (+1½) v2 (A) - Loss
#123 Washington (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
#124 Montreal (M/L) v2 (A) - Win
v1 Plays
(A) 56-29
(B) 15-13
(C) 10-2
Losses: Min (-18.04 u), WAS (-23.28 u)
v2 Plays
(A) 22-17
(B) 9-7
(C) 5-2
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u), CAR(-31.57)
Games for (4/19/13):
#118 Pittsburgh @ Boston (M/L) v1 (C) (7:05 pm EDT)
#122 Resumes v2 (B) on 4/20/13
#123 Resumes v1 (B) on 4/20/13
#125 Nashville (+1½) @ Chicago v1 (A) (8:35 pm EDT)
#126 Nashville (+1½) @ Chicago v2 (A) (8:35 pm EDT)
#127 N.Y. Rangers (M/L) @ Buffalo v1 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#128 Edmonton (+1½) @ Colorado v2 (A) (9:05 pm EDT)
#129 Pittsburgh @ Boston (M/L) v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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Probably no Boston games tonight - Boston is still in total lock down and there are no workers at Fenway or . . wherever thay play Hockey (The garden?).
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