Morning Wallco, You're at it early today. Thanks for the nice little sweep yesterday. I parlayed the 2 together and got an even better payday. GL
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03-18-13 07:17 AM #2066
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03-18-13 09:37 AM #2067
I find it amazing how playing extra units on a chase with gut feelings wins 100% of the time. Not dissing you in particular hagball52 but all who say they won extra money playing a parlay (which is a -EV gamble but feels so good when you win)
I have never heard someone brag how they thought outside the box and lost. :-)
Sorry - I just see so many people saying how they did even better but no one ever says I really screwed up and wasted money.
Last edited by Grinder12000; 03-18-13 at 11:57 AM.
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03-18-13 01:19 PM #2068
Can't say that I have. I've only bet 12 times all season on hockey and I've gone 9-3. Most of them have been parlays on both the wins and losses. It's been profitable. I don't play high juice plays and have gravitated away from chase betting. I pick and choose my bets from the hockey and nba threads and just do my own handicapping. I praise Wallco for all the hard work he puts in on both threads. But I just do my own thing. Not trying to boast but do appreciate a good win and giving out a thanks to Wallco. The hockey thread has been good so far this year but the nba has been a disaster for most playing the chase systems but I've done well in both. Just haven't placed near as many bets.
Originally Posted by Grinder12000
I find it amazing how playing extra units on a chase with gut feelings wins 100% of the time. Not dissing you in particular hagball52 but all who say they won extra money playing a parlay (which is a -EV gamble but feels so good when you win)
I have never heard someone brag how they thought outside the box and lost. :-)
Sorry - I just see so many people saying how they did even better but no one ever says I really screwed up and wasted money.
P.S. I do have to admit that I've gotten my ass handed to me in college bball but I'm still up for the year. If I would have avoided the college sports I would be having an awesome year.Last edited by hagball52; 03-18-13 at 01:25 PM.
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03-18-13 03:35 PM #2069
yea - I think most playing the NBA chase are underwater now. I really was not trying to single you out hag. More frustration with my risk averse best friend that boast an amazing "virtual" record while I'm sweating out 30 unit plays and winning a shitload while he brags he's up 20 virtual units.the nba has been a disaster for most playing the chase systems
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03-18-13 04:50 PM #2070
Hagball is a class act. However, there are others more deserving of these comments. Originally Posted by Grinder12000
I find it amazing how playing extra units on a chase with gut feelings wins 100% of the time. Not dissing you in particular hagball52 but all who say they won extra money playing a parlay (which is a -EV gamble but feels so good when you win)
I have never heard someone brag how they thought outside the box and lost. :-)
Sorry - I just see so many people saying how they did even better but no one ever says I really screwed up and wasted money.
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03-18-13 09:00 PM #2071
I'm just gonna wait until there are 2+ C bets in one day, parlay em and throw my entire life savings at it...+EV move for sure.
I kid, I kid.
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03-19-13 05:35 AM #2072
NHL Gold
Full update later, today's plays are:
Washington (+1 1/2) (A)
Vancouver (M/L) (A)
Phoenix (+1 1/2) (A)Points Awarded:
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03-19-13 07:50 AM #2073
I did lose my 4th hockey bet yesterday. Once again I did a parlay with the 3 plays yesterday. Originally I was just going to play the Rangers and Dallas but got a little greedy at the last minute and put the Avs on there also and it cost me. I laid 2 units to win a little over 6 units. Still up though. My days of sweating out 30 unit plays are over. More power to the people who can do it but I really don't need that kind of stress. Originally Posted by Grinder12000
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03-19-13 05:30 PM #2074
Wallco.... are these V1 or V2? Originally Posted by Wallco99
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03-19-13 05:36 PM #2075
v1, v1, v2 Originally Posted by MLefty
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03-19-13 07:23 PM #2076
Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 65-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +44.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-2.35 units)
(3/18/13):
#655N.Y. Rangers (M/L)cv2 (A) - Win
#665Dallas (M/L)gv2 (A) - Win
#675Colorado (+1½)rv2 (A) - Loss
v1 Plays (Fade)
(A) 24-20
(B) 12-8
(C) 8-0
v2 Plays (Bet on)
(A) 13-10
(B) 4-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)
Games for (3/19/13):
#67 Resumes v2 (B) on 3/20/13
#68 Washington (+1½) @ Pittsburgh v1 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
#69 St. Louis @ Vancouver (M/L) v1 (A) (10:05 pm EDT)
#70 Phoenix (+1½) @ L.A. Kings v2 (A) (10:35 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.Last edited by Wallco99; 03-19-13 at 07:26 PM.
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03-20-13 12:15 AM #2077
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03-20-13 12:17 AM #2078
Awesome day. What a great finish in the Phx game!!
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03-20-13 03:13 AM #2079
Was an interesting ending for sure but forced a push sadly on my end. Originally Posted by DANO74
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03-20-13 05:43 AM #2080
Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 68-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +47.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-2.35 units)
(3/19/13):
#685Washington (+1½)cv1 (A) - Win
#695Vancouver (M/L)gv1 (A) - Win
#705Phoenix (+1½)rv2 (A) - Win
v1 Plays (Fade)
(A) 26-20
(B) 12-8
(C) 8-0
v2 Plays (Bet on)
(A) 14-10
(B) 4-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)
Games for (3/20/13):
#67 Dallas @ Colorado (M/L) v2 (B) (9:35 pm EDT)
#71 Tampa Bay @ Toronto (M/L) v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
#72 Minnesota @ Detroit (M/L) v1 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
#73 Chicago @ Anaheim (M/L) v1 (A) (10:05 pm EDT)
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.Last edited by Wallco99; 03-20-13 at 05:56 AM.
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03-20-13 10:40 AM #2081
Why would you have pushed? Did you parlay two together and bet one straight up like some other people like to do here? Originally Posted by Milsaps
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03-20-13 10:47 AM #2082
He bet the total Originally Posted by dalogester
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03-20-13 05:08 PM #2083
I'd like to remind all that are profiting from Wallco that the little gold coin is like paying him for his work (also called bribing for coming back next year). Let's keep rewarding him for increasing our books.
Rod
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03-20-13 05:17 PM #2084
like it four of five games have plays tonight!
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03-20-13 11:34 PM #2085
Profitable night again. Thanks Wallco!!
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03-20-13 11:39 PM #2086
Nice Wins tonight Wallco great job.
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03-21-13 05:36 AM #2087
you are by far the best handicapper on this forum. great plays! keep it up!
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03-21-13 06:01 AM #2088
Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 71-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +50.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.45 units)
(3/20/13):
#67 Colorado (M/L)v2 (B) - Win
#71 Toronto (M/L) v2 (A) - Win
#72 Detroit (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
#73 Anaheim (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Plays (Fade)
(A) 27-21
(B) 12-8
(C) 8-0
v2 Plays (Bet on)
(A) 15-10
(B) 5-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)
Games for (3/21/13):
#72 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/23/13
#74 Boston (M/L) @ Ottawa v1 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
#75 Dallas (**) @ L.A. Kings v1 (A) (10:35 pm EDT)
** Denotes line not available at time of post.
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.Points Awarded:
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03-21-13 08:30 AM #2089
You excited for opening day, wallco?
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03-21-13 06:55 PM #2090
If you are speaking of MLB then, YES, it is my favorite sport. If you are referring to game 1 of the NHL playoffs, then YES to that as well. Originally Posted by thes0vereign
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03-21-13 11:54 PM #2091
Another profitable night! Great job Wallco!
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03-22-13 01:40 AM #2092
Do you run any baseball systems like this hockey? Great job again last night wish I would of played. Originally Posted by Wallco99
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03-22-13 04:54 AM #2093
Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 73-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +52.84 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.45 units)
(3/21/13):
#74 Boston (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
#75 Dallas (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Plays (Fade)
(A) 29-21
(B) 12-8
(C) 8-0
v2 Plays (Bet on)
(A) 15-10
(B) 5-5
(C) 4-1
Losses: NJ (-20.16 u)
There are no system plays (3/22/13):
#72 Resumes v1 (B) on 3/23/13
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.Points Awarded:
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03-22-13 09:08 AM #2094
Some how I feel cheated there are no plays. LOL
for any baseball fans. I'm reading a great new book called. Trading Bases. A Wall Street trader uses his analytical skills in gambling on baseball. Lots of saber metrics.
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03-22-13 09:58 AM #2095
this looks like another good read. john Patrick's Sports Betting: Proven Winning Systems for Football, Basketball, and Baseball [Paperback] Originally Posted by Grinder12000
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03-22-13 10:06 AM #2096
LOL John Patrick. Sorry - this guy is 100% clueless!! seriously, I've written essays on this guys snake oil books. you should see his Craps book. All he does is sell books with no real knowledge. It might be a good read but I would never ever do anything he suggests! Sorry Jonny - now coming after YOU but this guy has been around for decades selling books. His poker books are a riot. He even has a how to win at Slot Machines book.
I BELIEVE he does have a clue in money management which is 80% of sports betting but even that had holes.
WITH THAT SAID
How many games are NHL teams playing this year compared to a normal year ?? Do they normally play 70? 80?
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03-22-13 10:13 AM #2097
The regular season is usually 82 games, this year they'll play 48 Originally Posted by Grinder12000
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03-22-13 12:02 PM #2098
Yeah did a quick search on amazon about gambling systems... reviews looked good. I never read it myself. Originally Posted by Grinder12000
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03-23-13 09:38 AM #2099
Thanks - I was thinking I was getting it mixed up with the NBA.The regular season is usually 82 games, this year they'll play 48
Jonny - truly I was not in any way cutting you or anybody down for buying a John Patrick book. Every book I have on gambling (about 50) has SOME tidbit that is useful. Especially when it comes to money management which is the key to sports gambling (be conservative is a huge thing as it is the long run (lifetime)).
BUT John Patrick is basically a snake oil salesmen who only sells books.
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03-23-13 10:13 AM #2100
No offense taken, can you recommend any good books for starters like myself? would like to be in this for the long run if I can make a few bucks. thanks man Originally Posted by Grinder12000
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