1. #1716
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    2012-13 System to date: 31-0 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +31.00 unitsL(fin. series)
    Current open series: 0

    (2/21/13):
    #29
    N.Y. Islanders (+1½) v1 (C) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 11-12
    (B) 8-4

    (C) 4-0

    v2 Plays
    (A) 3-5
    (B) 2-3

    (C) 3-0


    Games for (2/22/13):
    #32 San Jose (+1½) @ Chicago v1 (A) (8:35 pm EST)


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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    Game of thrones does not start until march 31. WHEW. You guy scared me. Sorry Wallco but the best show on TV and some mentioned it last night.

    Excellent game last night. Pick lines are a love hate thing. Love the fact the overtimes are auto wins, hate having to pay for it though.
    Last edited by Grinder12000; 02-22-13 at 06:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    Game of thrones does not start until march 31. WHEW. You guy scared me. Sorry Wallco but the best show on TV and some mentioned it last night.

    Excellent game last night. Pick lines are a love hate thing. Love the fact the overtimes are auto wins, hate having to pay for it though.
    I wouldn't mind paying for them if it wasn't for wanting to put my head through a wall when an empty netter bones it. I guess not being able to lose OT games makes up for it over the long haul, but those empty netters certainly feel worse IMO.

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    Puck Line wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Puck Line wins.
    Wallco you really need to get yourself a woman.

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    Puck line wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyM10 View Post
    Wallco you really need to get yourself a woman.
    Why would he need one? ... he seems to have you as his little bitch following him around wherever he goes.

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    2012-13 System to date: 32-0 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +32.00 unitsL(fin. series)
    Current open series: 0

    (2/22/13):
    #32 San Jose (+1½) @ Chicago v1 (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 12-12
    (B) 8-4

    (C) 4-0

    v2 Plays
    (A) 3-5
    (B) 2-3

    (C) 3-0


    Games for (2/23/13):
    #33 Toronto (M/L) @ Ottawa v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)**

    ** Keep an eye on this close line game for possible switch to (+1½) line by game time if Toronto becomes the dog.


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 02-23-13 at 05:18 AM.
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    It seems to be moving in the opposite direction - Toronto becoming more of a favorite. It's still pretty close, though.

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    Was I the only one that was able to get Toronto at +1.5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleku View Post
    Was I the only one that was able to get Toronto at +1.5?
    Never saw it like that anywhere. wallco goes by the scoresandodds close anyway, so the series should continue. Maybe you can double up!

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    2012-13 System to date: 32-0 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +32.00 unitsL(fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.20 units)

    (2/23/13):
    #33 Toronto (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 12-13
    (B) 8-4

    (C) 4-0

    v2 Plays
    (A) 3-5
    (B) 2-3

    (C) 3-0


    Games for (2/24/13):
    #33 Resumes v1 (B) on 2/25/13
    #34 Carolina (+1½) @ N.Y. Islanders v2 (A) (7:05 pm EST)


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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    For any of you that are relatively new to the Wallco Gold this is the 2nd year of LIVE play - here are both years put together on a graph.

    That drop near the end is a tragic empty netter C game on the very last game of the season worth about 19 units I believe


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    For any of you that are relatively new to the Wallco Gold this is the 2nd year of LIVE play - here are both years put together on a graph.

    That drop near the end is a tragic empty netter C game on the very last game of the season worth about 19 units I believe

    I am not sure where on the graph was the end of last season, but we ended +65 units last year.

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    There was some weirdness on game 196 as there were two and not really an update at the end so I think I was off a couple units. Last year ended at that cliff near the 331 game mark.

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    Weird thing is you could have made more money last year flat betting and upping your bets kelly style.

    A chase is good for taking an inferior bet picking system and making MORE of a profit they you normally would, like this year (so far). I'm going to work on something - NOT cutting anything down unless you hot 62% this year also LOL

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    oh look, down 2-0 and about to win SU. If only I could get the Kings (basketball) to be as cooperative as these hockey players are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    Weird thing is you could have made more money last year flat betting and upping your bets kelly style.

    A chase is good for taking an inferior bet picking system and making MORE of a profit they you normally would, like this year (so far). I'm going to work on something - NOT cutting anything down unless you hot 62% this year also LOL
    Nothing is being changed in here. System works fine, not interested in kelly, labby, compounded daily interest or any other strategies. Thanks for the research, but if we are going to re-invent my wheel, please do it in an alternate thread. Thanks.
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    sigh . . no no - sorry - did not mean to sound like JMD and start talking about a compounded double reverse labby LOL I could be wrong actually as I did not take into account the lines. I was just surprised at the 62% win rate BUT - not ATS so half of my thing was correct. I did not mean to insinuate say "inferior " was a bad thing - bad choice of words.

    The genius thing about this is it takes wjhat might be a -EV betting system into a winning system. I hope it lasts a few years. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    sigh . . no no - sorry - did not mean to sound like JMD and start talking about a compounded double reverse labby LOL I could be wrong actually as I did not take into account the lines. I was just surprised at the 62% win rate BUT - not ATS so half of my thing was correct. I did not mean to insinuate say "inferior " was a bad thing - bad choice of words.

    The genius thing about this is it takes wjhat might be a -EV betting system into a winning system. I hope it lasts a few years. Well done.
    All good. You actually quoted the exact guy I was thinking of when I was reading your first post. I am just tired of the other threads where there are a select few people constantly trying to change the systems and strategies that are being posted in those threads, when the systems already being posted are successful and are working just fine the way they are. I just want to keep things the way they are in here, that's all. Suggestions of othere ways to play it and different possible criteria are better served in PM's, as to not confuse anyone, and start a barage of questions about things that are not even related to the system. This system is pretty simple and I would like to keep it that way. Thanks.

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    2012-13 System to date: 33-0 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +33.00 unitsL(fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.20 units)

    (2/24/13):
    #34 Carolina (+1½) v2 (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 12-13
    (B) 8-4

    (C) 4-0

    v2 Plays
    (A) 4-5
    (B) 2-3

    (C) 3-0



    Games for (2/25/13):
    #33 Montreal (M/L) @ Ottawa v1 (B) (7:35 pm EST)
    #35 Anaheim (+1½) @ L.A. Kings v1 (A) (10:35 pm EST)
    #36 Anaheim @ L.A. Kings (M/L) v1 (A) (10:35 pm EST)


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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    Thanks Wallco!

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    Hey Wallco, isn't Toronto a b bet v1 instead of Montreal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrk77 View Post
    Hey Wallco, isn't Toronto a b bet v1 instead of Montreal?
    No, sheet is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    No, sheet is correct.
    Ok thanks

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    Hey Wallco love the thread. Do u do something similar for baseball? Would it work? Thx man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spankmythighs View Post
    Hey Wallco love the thread. Do u do something similar for baseball? Would it work? Thx man.
    I tried a backtest and it failed miserably. I did find an MLB system that performed great on a backtest, but the one year we ran it live it bombed, mostly because I added a v2 system to it midway through the season which ended up being the majority of the lost money that year.

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    Wallco do you cap any other sports? I apologize for asking without searching. (I know not baseball )

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    God dam Ottawa wins again in shootout

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicktran808 View Post
    God dam Ottawa wins again in shootout
    I messed up and bet the +1.5 on the first period and won it lol

    12-3 on these bets not counting the 3 game chase as a series, just looking at my transactions, but one of those losses was my blues vs avs bet.

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    Jesus, this betting system is fascinating, just reading the thread. I do not watch hockey, but I was just reading about betting systems out of curiosity and stumbled upon this. Has anyone followed this for a long period of time? How has it worked for you?

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    Nevermind my previous post, I just read about 30 pages of this thread, this is one of the best designed systems I have ever seen. Sincerely impressed Wallco, I'll be on it next season.

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    2012-13 System to date: 34-0 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +34.00 unitsL(fin. series)
    Current open series: 2 (-6.47 units)

    (2/25/13):
    #33 Montreal (M/L) v1 (B) - Loss
    #35 Anaheim (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss
    #36 L.A. Kings (M/L) v1 (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 13-14
    (B) 8-5

    (C) 4-0

    v2 Plays
    (A) 4-5
    (B) 2-3

    (C) 3-0



    Games for (2/26/13):
    #33 Resumes v1 (C) on 2/28/13
    #35 Resumes v1 (B) on 2/27/13
    #37 Buffalo (+1½) @ Tampa Bay v2 (A) (7:35 pm EST)
    #38 Winnipeg @ N.Y. Rangers (M/L) v2 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
    #39 Boston @ N.Y. Islanders (+1½) v1 (A) (7:35 pm EST)


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 02-26-13 at 05:18 PM.
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    Series 37-- Is Buffalo a (B) bet? When was the (A) bet?

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