1. #1681
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    Can anyone tell me the odds that the islanders (C) bet hits?

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    I got. -220. +1 1/2

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    One play across all systems, and it's a -220 c play. Get hype people!

    edit: bah! and didn't get in at -220 last night and the best I can find is -235. Probably going to just wait and end up getting in at like -260
    Last edited by noveggies; 02-21-13 at 10:34 AM.

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    Why would it go from -220 to -240 when the team they are playing is the favorite at home and hot... Dont quite get this. Unless its from all the C bet action...

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    wtf - HELP me out here - SBR all of a sudden does not have past M/L and P/L lines starting 2011,11,19 all fields are blank which makes my Wallco immersion FUBR - anybody know where I can get puck lines for LAST year NHL??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    wtf - HELP me out here - SBR all of a sudden does not have past M/L and P/L lines starting 2011,11,19 all fields are blank which makes my Wallco immersion FUBR - anybody know where I can get puck lines for LAST year NHL??

    Hope I dont get the insta ban for this, lol dont see why I would but try here

    covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nhl/teams/teams.html

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    Hope I dont get the insta ban for this, lol dont see why I would but try here
    Not seeing the puck line anywhere - plus since SBR dropped the "ball" with past lines I can't see why they would complain about finding a work around.

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    The A game records combined are a terrible 14 - 17 get used to the outrageous -300 puckline C games at 50 units to win 1. This is a very high risk shell game with one or two losses for any dumb enough to be risking 40-70 units on a C game to win 1 single unit.
    If this sounds to you like it is, dumb and eventual washing out of your funds you should be smart enough never to be approaching the set up here of an air bettor that himself is a fraud not risking 50 units to win one on these C games. Word of caution how does it feel having just about every single series losing the A game and immediately being super high risk?

    His NBA system is down 30 units on a -400 game yesterday he told people to risk 60 units to win. A loss would have put the fantasy bettors down 100 units in total! It won so he is able to minus one single unit off his massive losses.
    Last edited by KennyM10; 02-21-13 at 01:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyM10 View Post
    The A game records combined are a terrible 14 - 17
    45% win rate on A games

    Quote Originally Posted by KennyM10 View Post
    Word of caution how does it feel having just about every single series losing the A game and immediately being super high risk?
    So is it 45% win rate or "just about every" series losing the A game?

    People following wallco's systems are aware of how they are doing and that a lot of money gets put into play on 3 PL plays... going to be about 22-23 units tonight. What I don't get is what you are trying to do? If you really feel that wallco is doing a disservice to the community, then offer some commentary about his picks/strategy as to why it won't work over the long haul. If you just don't like him, then stop reading his threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    So I'm reliving the 2011-12 Wallco NHL experience and taking down numbers and stats to get the feel of the system (which is what I do) and man - you guys had a rough beginning didn't you. holy crap.
    From 62-6 and down about 30u to 118-6 and up about 20u at the all star break. It's giving me a panic attack just reading it

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    Problem solved - SBR changed the way they did dates and I did not catch it (I bet they did not know it either).
    NOPE - guess not - the date they have and the games do not match! damn it
    Last edited by Grinder12000; 02-21-13 at 05:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalogester View Post
    Can anyone tell me the odds that the islanders (C) bet hits?
    50%, only two teams are playing.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 02-21-13 at 05:14 PM.

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    Update - I'm about halfway through the 10-11 season and the average number of units played per day is 11.15 with a standard deviation of 9.91 which shows that TYPICALLY you are betting between 1.24 units and 21.06 units on a daily bases!

    That one day we had this year with 65+ units in play was an anomaly as even 40 is very rare.

    and I have not gotten to the good part of the system yet. Back to REAL work. :-(

    Can anyone tell me the odds that the islanders (C) bet hits?
    at -230 it's 69.7%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    wtf - HELP me out here - SBR all of a sudden does not have past M/L and P/L lines starting 2011,11,19 all fields are blank which makes my Wallco immersion FUBR - anybody know where I can get puck lines for LAST year NHL??
    ScoresandOdds.com, that is what ALL system backtesting was done from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    50%, only two teans are playing.
    Ha.

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    #722 - Golden State Warriors ML (-440)
    Header: Phoenix (17-36) @ Golden State (30-23)
    Sport: NBA
    Ticket #: 69874273
    Accepted: 02/20/13 10:07 PM (EST)
    Scheduled : 02/20/13 10:35 PM (EST)
    Risk/Win: $7,374.40/$1,676.00
    Outcome: Win
    Final Score: Golden State Warriors 108-98 over Phoenix Suns


    I'm pretty sure I'm placing the big wagers as well as the small ones. The trolls need to get a clue.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 02-21-13 at 05:29 PM.
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    Odds never got better. In @ -240, I don't understand how they set the odds on the PL sometimes, but in the end it doesn't matter, I guess. GL everyone!

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    Is there a reason you guys prefer scores and odds to do backtesting over covers? I was backtesting some stuff and just used covers, since it was easier to copy and paste things into a spreadsheet from there. Scores and odds (and sbr) make it difficult to do that as far as I can tell unless I'm missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noveggies View Post
    Is there a reason you guys prefer scores and odds to do backtesting over covers? I was backtesting some stuff and just used covers, since it was easier to copy and paste things into a spreadsheet from there. Scores and odds (and sbr) make it difficult to do that as far as I can tell unless I'm missing something.
    Yes, scoresandodds has puck line odds for hockey and run line odds for baseball. It is the only site to offer this.

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    We lost our c bet before it eben started.. this is pathetic. should have just took montreal m/l paid way better too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalogester View Post
    We lost our c bet before it eben started.. this is pathetic. should have just took montreal m/l paid way better too.
    You dont have the gut for gambling my friend.

    Have you considered Tiddly Winks as a second alternative?

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    Here is the beauty of the +1 1/2. We already won, and the overtime hasn't even started yet. Gotta love hockey!

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    Undefeated!

    WELL DONE WALLCO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalogester View Post
    We lost our c bet before it eben started.. this is pathetic. should have just took montreal m/l paid way better too.
    Sounds like you forgot the newest and most air-tight system for this season: team that goes down 2-0 will win SU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleku View Post
    You dont have the gut for gambling my friend.

    Have you considered Tiddly Winks as a second alternative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalogester View Post
    We lost our c bet before it eben started.. this is pathetic. should have just took montreal m/l paid way better too.
    Sorry to hear that you were on Montreal -1 1/2, otherwise you would be joining the rest of us winners. And -150 and -240 both pay the SAME if you win.

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    I literally pumped my fist knowing this was a W when I saw Montreal up 2-0. Thought the game would be over by now when I checked before watching Game of Thrones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noveggies View Post
    I literally pumped my fist knowing this was a W when I saw Montreal up 2-0. Thought the game would be over by now when I checked before watching Game of Thrones.
    Game of Thrones started tonight?!?!

    Dammit!

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    Worst thing on my SS is that a Vann fade, NJD Fade, and SJ follow ended up -1.8u, 0u, and -.65u because I was out of town and didn't put the numbers in correctly, otherwise this is a pretty green SS. Thanks wallco!

    Quote Originally Posted by Maleku View Post
    Game of Thrones started tonight?!?!

    Dammit!
    Season 2 -- watching the blu rays I bought tuesday. For what it's worth, they are crazy cheap during release week, if you want to own them, it's only 30 bucks and it'll probably never be that cheap again. 25 bucks if you are in a city with a Fry's.



    EDIT: oh, and look at that, the team that was down 2-0 ended up winning in OT. How "weird"

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    LOL DAMNIT

    I turned on the Islanders game to watch OT and when the Islanders scored I started freaking out and almost woke up my 2 year old...then I came back here and realized it was +1.5...

    P.S. the GWG was siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick, look for replays folks.

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    Really quiet at Kenny's tonight..... I like it. Congrats on another series close and W Walco!
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    Quote Originally Posted by noveggies View Post
    Sounds like you forgot the newest and most air-tight system for this season: team that goes down 2-0 will win SU.
    Except for TB tonight

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    WHAT??? game of thrones was tonight? Gotta get HBO tomorrow..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleku View Post
    You dont have the gut for gambling my friend.

    Have you considered Tiddly Winks as a second alternative?


    All in parlay. No gut?
    Stake Refund Win Acc. Odds Status
    Feb 21,2013 12:27 400.00 0.00 843.08 +111 Processed

    1 College Basketball Lines Utah v Colorado Feb 21, 2013 21:00 Colorado -1000 Yes 50 - 60
    2 College Basketball Lines South Alabama v Middle Tennessee St Feb 21, 2013 19:00 Middle Tennessee St -1799 Yes 50 - 85
    3 College Basketball Lines UL Monroe v Western Kentucky Feb 21, 2013 19:00 Western Kentucky -800 Yes 57 - 75
    4 College Basketball Lines Georgia v Arkansas Feb 21, 2013 18:00 Arkansas -720 Yes 60 - 62
    5 NHL Lines New York Islanders v Montreal Canadiens Feb 21, 2013 18:35 New York Islanders +1½ -240 Yes 4 - 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalogester View Post
    All in parlay. No gut?
    Stake Refund Win Acc. Odds Status
    Feb 21,2013 12:27 400.00 0.00 843.08 +111 Processed

    1 College Basketball Lines Utah v Colorado Feb 21, 2013 21:00 Colorado -1000 Yes 50 - 60
    2 College Basketball Lines South Alabama v Middle Tennessee St Feb 21, 2013 19:00 Middle Tennessee St -1799 Yes 50 - 85
    3 College Basketball Lines UL Monroe v Western Kentucky Feb 21, 2013 19:00 Western Kentucky -800 Yes 57 - 75
    4 College Basketball Lines Georgia v Arkansas Feb 21, 2013 18:00 Arkansas -720 Yes 60 - 62
    5 NHL Lines New York Islanders v Montreal Canadiens Feb 21, 2013 18:35 New York Islanders +1½ -240 Yes 4 - 3
    This isn't a sign of guts sonny... this is mere panic and desperation.

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