1. #1191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Most likely. I may take a little break before I start up. Haven't decided yet. But it will be there at some point. Usually not too many plays at the beginning anyway, if any at all. Plus, I am testing a few more angles.
    A break? Come on you have only lost around 80 units the last two weeks with the wallow minus every -400 play system! Why quit now , this is laughable thanks.

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    Kenny your laughable. What about +68 units dont you understand? 0% chance you have won 68 units betting NHL this year. You add nothing to this forum,you just make the same tired comments over and over again. Get out of your mommys basement and get on with your pathetic miserable life.There I fed the troll.

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    Final Tally: +68.77 units

    Excellent season, yet again for NHL Gold. Congrats to all who followed along. And to the haters, , this system kicks ass. Only two losses since December 8, pretty freaking awesome since there were over 200 plays this season. And to those of you who bashed when we were 40 units down, a double for you. For the rest of you,
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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2011-12 System to date: 64-3 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +8.26 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 2 (-20.42 units)

    (4/10/12):
    #68 Sacramento (+9) (B) - Loss
    #69 Philadelphia (M/L) (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 41-28
    (B) 10-18

    (C) 10-7
    (D) 3-3

    V2 Plays
    In production


    Games for (4/11/12):
    #64 Minnesota (**) @ Denver (D) (9:05 pm EDT)
    #68 Sacramento (**) @ New Orleans (C) (8:05 pm EDT)

    ** Denotes line not available at time of post


    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

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    Another losing night take a break already. Oh and be a man and post the odds and the risk reward on your upcoming c d and e bets! Let everyone see your cannot lose system st work fluffer boy.

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    God this is brutal!!!!! Just go through the alphabet until you finally win a game do not worry about the odds or risk. Wallow hang it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyM10 View Post
    Another losing night take a break already. Oh and be a man and post the odds and the risk reward on your upcoming c d and e bets! Let everyone see your cannot lose system st work fluffer boy.
    Did your D bet win tonight too???

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyM10 View Post
    God this is brutal!!!!! Just go through the alphabet until you finally win a game do not worry about the odds or risk. Wallow hang it up.
    The D bet won.

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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2011-12 System to date: 65-3 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +9.26 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-8.26 units)

    (4/11/12):
    #64 Minnesota (+8) (D) - Win
    #68 Sacramento (+3) (C) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 41-28
    (B) 10-18

    (C) 10-8
    (D) 4-3

    V2 Plays
    In production


    Games for (4/12/12):
    #68 Resumes (D) on 4/13/12
    #62 Detroit @ Charlotte (**) (A) (7:05 pm EDT)

    ** Denotes line not available at time of post


    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

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    Nice 24 point loser. Hilarious what is the risk on the "f" bet. All your belongings to win 1 unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyM10 View Post
    Nice 24 point loser. Hilarious what is the risk on the "f" bet. All your belongings to win 1 unit?

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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2011-12 System to date: 65-3 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +9.26 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 2 (-9.36 units)

    (4/12/12):
    #70 Charlotte (+5½) (A) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 41-29
    (B) 10-18

    (C) 10-8
    (D) 4-3

    V2 Plays
    In production


    Games for (4/13/12):
    #68 Sacramento (+14) @ Oklahoma City (D) (8:05 pm EDT)
    #70 Charlotte (+15½) @ Miami (B) (7:35 pm EDT)



    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 04-13-12 at 09:00 PM.

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    The system that as you called it refused to lose is burying everyone now. What a joke two more massive whippings and another d loss. Will you give back all the winnings. Seriously how many units have you lost these last two weeks. Oh and who is dumb now? Ha ha glad you are getting completely torched.

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    Running Late . Will post update later.

    Tonight:
    Golden State +11 (A)

    This is the last play of the season

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    Thanks Wallco!

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    Just post how many units you finished down with the d loss the other night I need a good laugh!

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    wallco did you ever check this NHL seasons result without this martinguel system? if you are winning long term on your bets why start risking a shit load on some plays ? you risk to loose alot insteed of just flat betting which is alot safer!

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    NHL Gold Final Tally: +68.77 units

    Excellent season, yet again for NHL Gold. Congrats to all who followed along. Only two losses since December 8, pretty freaking awesome since there were over 200 plays this season.

    No need to change a good thing

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    Wallco Chase 110 – Official Rules

    Find a team that has lost three consecutive games (both S/U and ATS). Play a four game chase on that team to win (A) (B) (C) or (D). If a team is a favorite in any of the games, play the M/L, if the team is a dog in any of the games play the point line (-110). WE DONOT BUY POINTS IN THIS SYSTEM and we do not care if teams were favorites or dogs in the games before the four game chase starts. The only time we would buy points is if your team is a favorite by 1-3 points, and buying down to -1/2 is cheaper than the M/L. Other than that, we are always playing M/L and (-110). I use ScoresandOdds.com as official play site. If ScoresAndOdds.com has the game listed as a win, then the series is over. You may have had a different line then them and lost the game, if this is the case, the decision is yours whether or not to continue, but the game will be deemed a win at that point. ALL PUSHES ARE SEEN AS A NO-PLAY. We will treat those games as if they were never played and just skip them. So if your (B) bet is a push, your next bet will be a (B) bet. This system has not been back tested for pre-season or playoffs, this is for regular season only.


    Bet Structure (for 4 game chase)

    Chase 110 is definitely profitable. For each series loss in a four game chase @ (-110), you need 18.44 series wins to be even.) In a chase system, assuming your initial wager is 1 unit, if you lose your (A) bet, your (B) bet will be your losses of (A) bet + 1 unit. So if (B) wins, your profit will be 1 unit. Same for (C) and (D). Recoup all previous losses + 1 unit. Any time a series wins, you will have profited 1 unit. So, for example, if my system is 70-0, I would be up 70 units, it can't be more than that, because our game odds are always (-110) or lower, unless you are risking more than one unit per bet. If you lose four consecutive bets: (A) (B) (C) and (D), you cumulative loss will be 18.44 units (assuming all four games were played at (-110) and betting to win one unit, slightly more if there was a M/L in one of the games). Another thing, if (A) (B) (C) or (D) wins, the series is over at that point, and system gets a win, the remaining games in the series do not get played. Here are four examples, winning the (A) bet is obvious, so I will skip that one:

    Unit size = $100


    Win (B) bet
    (A) - Risk 110 to win 100 -
    Loss (-110)
    (B) - Risk 231 to win 210 -
    Win (+210)
    Net result: 210 -110 = +100 (+1 unit)

    Win (C) bet
    (A) - Risk 110 to win 100 -
    Loss (-110)
    (B) - Risk 231 to win 210 -
    Loss (-231)
    (C) - Risk 485 to win 441 -
    Win (+441)
    Net result: 441 - 231 - 110 =+100 (+1 unit)

    Win (D) bet
    (A) - Risk 110 to win 100 -
    Loss (-110)
    (B) - Risk 231 to win 210 -
    Loss (-231)
    (C) - Risk 485 to win 441 -
    Loss (-485)
    (D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 -
    Win (+926)
    Net result: 926 - 485 - 231 - 110 =+100 (+1 unit)

    Lose (D) bet (series loss)
    (A) - Risk 110 to win 100 -
    Loss (-110)
    (B) - Risk 231 to win 210 -
    Loss (-231)
    (C) - Risk 485 to win 441 -
    Loss (-485)
    (D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 -
    Loss (-1018)
    Net result: -1018 - 485 - 231 - 110 = -1844 (-18.44 units)

    ** Note: These bet structures are based on all games being played at -110 odds. Amounts could be a lot larger if M/L losses are in the mix.

    Series Filters

    Head to Head Filter: If a team loses three straight games (ATS and S/U), check that team’s schedule to see who their next four opponents are. If one of these teams is a team that is already being played in Chase 110, skip wagering on the new team until the first team has concluded their series. This is to avoid possibly betting on both sides of a game deep in a series (B-D bets). If at that point, the new team has continued their losing streak, you may then pick up your (A) bet on that team, and begin your four game chase. If two teams qualify at the same time, and are scheduled to play each other at some point in their next four games, the team whose potential four game chase would end sooner will be the play. However, if these two teams are scheduled to face each other in their respective (A) bets, this game will be played, taking the (M/L) on the favorite and (-110) on underdog. There is a chance you can win both ends of the bet, and no chance you can lose both, since one team will win. The risk/reward only seems favorable when teams are facing each other in their (A) bets, all other scenarios are just too risky. You may play all teams that qualify, regardless of who their next four opponents are and just take your chances. However, this isn’t recommended. This filter was created to eliminate a possible (D) bet disaster. The wins and losses for the season will be calculated using this filter.

    When to play: Chase 110 will be played from day 1 of regular season. As the season winds down, when a team qualifies for a play (three losses ATS and S/U), make sure that team has at least four games remaining on their schedule. If not, that team doesn’t qualify. Results were based on a four game chase, so less than four games to play would lessen your chances of victory. Basic rule of thumb, if the losing streak starts in the last six games of a season, there is no way that team will qualify. If some pushes occur, it may go back a few more games.

    ** I haven’t had a chance to rebacktest the system to see how the 1-3-5 could be implemented, or what affect not playing M/L on favorites would have. I know there were more losses by playing favorites against the spread, but the extra income we would make by playing my 1-3-5 method could, possibly, more than offset them. I will check as soon as I get some free time. But for now, M/L is the play on favorites.


    System Backtest (2003-2012)

    2011-12(75-5) **Strike shortened season**

    (A) 46-31
    (B) 11-20
    (C) 10-10
    (D) 5-5

    Total loss : -20.63 units

    2010-11(85-0)

    (A) 47-38
    (B) 23-15
    (C) 9-6
    (D) 6-0

    Total profit : +85 units


    2009-10 (88-4)

    (A) 63-29
    (B) 11-18
    (C) 10-8
    (D) 4-4

    Total profit : +11.5 units

    2008-09 (86-6) THE BAD SEASON.Three losses involving large M/L.

    (A) 48-44
    (B) 20-24
    (C) 13-11
    (D) 5-6 (four of these won on next bet, too risky to play).

    Total loss : -51 units

    2007-2008 (86-3)

    (A) 58-31
    (B) 18-13
    (C) 6-7
    (D) 4-3

    Total Profit : +30 units

    2006-07 (101-1)

    (A) 64-39
    (B) 23-16
    (C) 11-5
    (D) 4-1

    Total Profit : +77.25 units


    2005-06 (92-3)

    (A) 61-34
    (B) 17-17
    (C) 10-7
    (D) 4-3

    Total Profit : +26 units

    2004-05 (80-3)

    (A) 56-27
    (B) 10-17
    (C) 7-10
    (D) 7-3

    Total Profit : +22.5 units

    2003-04 (92-4)

    (A) 48-48
    (B) 30-18
    (C) 10-8
    (D) 4-4

    Total Profit : +14 units

    System created by Wallco99

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    Think we need NHL back first

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    Shhhh, quiet in here!!! Wallco, have you heard anything about the impasse? I'm in Cleveland, Ohio and we don't have NHL, just some minor league team...don't even know who they're affiliated with...Columbus? Anyway, I just get tidbits, no real news. Have you heard of a, I guess a system, of where a team is on a 3 game in 4 night series and that the last game is away, it's a fade? Same with 4 games out of 6 days. I'm gonna do a backtest on it to see how it rolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn View Post
    Shhhh, quiet in here!!! Wallco, have you heard anything about the impasse? I'm in Cleveland, Ohio and we don't have NHL, just some minor league team...don't even know who they're affiliated with...Columbus? Anyway, I just get tidbits, no real news. Have you heard of a, I guess a system, of where a team is on a 3 game in 4 night series and that the last game is away, it's a fade? Same with 4 games out of 6 days. I'm gonna do a backtest on it to see how it rolls.
    Let me know.

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    I'm really hoping we get hockey back this week!

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    No hockey yet.

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    Still no Hockey

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    Still in lockout.

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    No hockey today

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    Not yet.

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    No hockey games today.

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    Happy new year, no hockey today.

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    No games today.

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    Nothing yet.

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    There aren't any hockey plays today.

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    Still none.

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